total net spend of all Premier League clubs this window

[cambridgeshire canary 7,915]

Fair to say our business looks pretty good now. Arsenal however.. Remember when they were always aiming to win the divison? When everytime they brought in new players they were worldclass superstars from big clubs everyone had heard of?And now they go and spend all that on White, Ramsdale and Tomiyasu.

Edited September 1, 2021 by cambridgeshire canary

[TheGunnShow 7,464]

Got a suspicion that figure might just be the base figures from our transfer dealings, and it could fly up a bit if we stay up and clauses are met.

[Hank shoots Skyler 2,094]

I can't work out how our net spend isn't at least in the red!

[Hank shoots Skyler 2,094]

Also how on earth have Chelsea bought Lukaku but only got a £3m net spend, this is clearly not right! Must be accurate as of about 3 weeks ago maybe? 

 

[BigFish 2,330]

Net spend is not really the most enlightening metric. As the @TheGunnShow notes add-ons arn't reflected, or wages, or loan to buy loan fees. Equally, although sceptics like to play the "ah, but what about net spend" card sales really do distort this. Both Villa and us are lower than perhaps is rational because of the Grealish and Buendia sales.

[snake-eyes 13]

8 minutes ago, Hank shoots Skyler said:

Also how on earth have Chelsea bought Lukaku but only got a £3m net spend, this is clearly not right! Must be accurate as of about 3 weeks ago maybe? 

 

I looked at this too, but they have made several high value sales including Tomori, Abraham Guehi, Giroud, Zouma. Tomori, Abraham and Zouma were sold for nearly £90m between them, covering the Lukaku signing. They have done some pretty astute business.

[Baracouda 47]

Still you would think we would be in the red. Even if Gibson + Dimi are taken from last season for these figures. 4 Loans.Who have we sold past Emi. Lees Melou + Gunn + Rashica + Sargent + Tzolis > Emi fee. 

Edited September 1, 2021 by Baracouda

[Bovril 268]

Chelsea have sold a fair few as the above poster has stated.

However, I would take these figures as a pinch of salt. Take a look at the same graphics produced by Sky Sports and you’ll see they declare Crystal Palace’s total spend as £14m. They signed Edouard last night alone for more money than that. Ignore the table.

Edited September 1, 2021 by Bovril

[Ken Hairy 4,318]

Nonsense figures, no way we've made a 6 million profit. Bet they don't include Gianoulis. Gibson or any loan fees so is a pointless chart. 

[lake district canary 4,875]

Regardless of this chart, which is fairly meaningless, I would think that looking overall, in terms of value for money, we have done pretty well compared to other teams.   Time will tell, but if we should stay up this season and buy Kabak and others that have a clause to buy at the end of the season, we could have a squad worth many more millions than we have ever seen at CR.  Fascinating journey we are on - and we are seeing atm the project in full flow.  All we have to do now is to get these players to gel and see if we can do some damage in this league.  Exciting times. 

[Uncle Fred 526]

It does lead you to ask the usual question this time of year, where has all the money gone? 

Edited September 1, 2021 by Uncle Fred

[Thirsty Lizard 3,227]

11 minutes ago, Uncle Fred said:

It does lead you to ask the usual question this time of year, where has all the money gone? 

I understand they're introducing 'Flogging a dead horse' at the next Olympics.

You're the odds on favourite with the bookies. 

[Uncle Fred 526]

4 minutes ago, Thirsty Lizard said:

I understand they're introducing 'Flogging a dead horse' at the next Olympics.

You're the odds on favourite with the bookies. 

Looking at these figures less of a dead horse and more of a very very valid question 

[Capt. Pants 5,148]

Ok I'm being gormless here but what is it exactly net of? How can we be £6m in profit after all our purchases/loans, and only sold Buendia?

[Danbury Yellow 127]

22 minutes ago, Uncle Fred said:

Looking at these figures less of a dead horse and more of a very very valid question 

I don’t think your a Norwich fan.  You clearly haven’t a clue about adds and omits.  It’s clearly obvious that table isn’t a reflection of this morning situation.  Is that a valid answer? 

[spencer 1970 215]

2 hours ago, Hank shoots Skyler said:

Also how on earth have Chelsea bought Lukaku but only got a £3m net spend, this is clearly not right! Must be accurate as of about 3 weeks ago maybe? 

 

I'd have agred with you HSS but I saw this after they bought Lukaku >>>

Edited September 1, 2021 by spencer 1970

[Uncle Fred 526]

25 minutes ago, Danbury Yellow said:

I don’t think your a Norwich fan.  You clearly haven’t a clue about adds and omits.  It’s clearly obvious that table isn’t a reflection of this morning situation.  Is that a valid answer? 

Show me the alternative figures to back up your view, this seems clear to me facts not opinions please 

[Thirsty Lizard 3,227]

17 minutes ago, Uncle Fred said:

Show me the alternative figures to back up your view, this seems clear to me facts not opinions please 

Aaahhh bless you - you're trying SOOOOOOOOOOOO  hard. 

[Branston Pickle 4,168]

15 minutes ago, Uncle Fred said:

Show me the alternative figures to back up your view, this seems clear to me facts not opinions please 

These figures aren’t facts and actually look to me to be a pile of crap.  We never release the value of transfers so those are guesses at best.  And they don’t appear to include a lot of costs….for example, c£15m for Gibson/Giannoulis presumably doesn’t appear as we were committed to it last year…but if that is case it should include Kabak and Normann at c£20m or so as we are committed to those costs this year.  Otherwise they would never make their way into such a chart.  You can’t have your cake and eat it.
 
I could produce a pretty table showing we’d spent £250m if I wanted.  Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t make it true or correct.

Edited September 1, 2021 by Branston Pickle

[Badger 2,750]

Transfer Market has Norwich as net spenders of just under £25 million, which looks far more likely to me!

They also show how the figures are made up, whereas the Sky ones seem to be plucked from the air.

1	Christos Tzolis Left Winger	19		21/22	PAOK Salonika  Super League 1	£9.90m
2	Milot Rashica Right Winger	25		21/22	Werder Bremen  2. Bundesliga	£9.90m
3	Josh Sargent Centre-Forward	21		21/22	Werder Bremen  2. Bundesliga	£8.55m
4	Ben Gibson Centre-Back	28		21/22	Burnley  Premier League	£8.37m
5	Dimitrios Giannoulis Left-Back	25		21/22	PAOK Salonika  Super League 1	£6.75m
6	Pierre Lees Melou Central Midfield	28		21/22	OGC Nice  Ligue 1	£5.40m
7	Angus Gunn Goalkeeper	25		21/22	Southampton  Premier League	£5.27m
8	Ozan Kabak Centre-Back	21		21/22	FC Schalke 04  2. Bundesliga	£3.60m
9	Mathias Normann Defensive Midfield	25		21/22	Rostov  Premier Liga	£1.80m
10	Brandon Williams Left-Back	20		21/22	Man Utd  Premier League	?
11	Billy Gilmour Central Midfield	20		21/22	Chelsea  Premier League	?
12	Flynn Clarke Attacking Midfield	18		21/22	Peterborough  Championship	?

[Branston Pickle 4,168]

Yup, the chart is utter bollox….you half wonder if it has just been created so that TalkCrap can use it as a stick to beat us with. 

[Badger 2,750]

The Telegraph says as follows:

In - Christos Tzolis PAOK £9.5m; Milot Rashica Werder Bremen £9.5m; Josh Sargent Werder Bremen £9.2m; Ben Gibson Burnley £8m; Dimitris Giannnoulis PAOK £6.5m; Angus Gunn Southampton £5m; Mathias Normann Rostov Loan; Ozan Kabak Schalke Loan; Billy Gilmour Chelsea Loan; Brandon Williams Manchester Utd Loan

Out Emiliano Buendia Aston Villa £33m

Even assuming the highly unlike scenario that the loans of Normann and Kabak were free this would be a net spend of £15 million. There is no detail on the Sky figures but I can't see how they could possibly be right!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/08/31/premier-league-transfers-2021-22-club-by-club-guide-summer-window/

[Badger 2,750]

The i, also gives completely different figures to Sky. Seems to me that this is just really bad reporting!

Norwich

In: Milot Rashica (£9.4m from Werder Bremen), Angus Gunn (£5m from Southampton), Pierre Lees Melou (£3.5m from Nice), Billy Gilmour (loan from Chelsea), Kenny Coker (undisclosed from Southend), Dimitrios Giannoulis (£6.75 from PAOK Salonika), Josh Sargent (£8m from Werder Bremen), Christos Tzolis (£10m from PAOK), Brandon Williams (loan from Man United), Ben Gibson (£8.37m from Burnley), Ozan Kabak (loan from Schalke), Mathias Normann (loan from Rostov)

Out: Emiliano Buendia (£38m to Aston Villa), Alex Tettey (free), Mario Vrancic (free), Marco Stiepermann (released), Orjan Nyland (released), Moritz Leitner (released), Philip Heise (undisclosed to Karlsruher), Sebastian Soto (loan to FC Porto), Josip Drmic (loan to HNK Rijeka), Sam McCallum (loan to QPR), Daniel Barden (loan to Livingston), Josh Martin (loan to MK Dons), Akin Famewo (loan to Charlton), Rob Nizet (undisclosed to Lecce), Jordan Hugill (loan to West Brom), Tom Trybull (free), Melvin Sitti (released), Onel Hernandez (loan to Middlesbrough), Timm Klose (free)

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-window-2021-deals-full-list-premier-league-deal-completed-summer-1020934

[Danbury Yellow 127]

3 minutes ago, Badger said:

The Telegraph says as follows:

In - Christos Tzolis PAOK £9.5m; Milot Rashica Werder Bremen £9.5m; Josh Sargent Werder Bremen £9.2m; Ben Gibson Burnley £8m; Dimitris Giannnoulis PAOK £6.5m; Angus Gunn Southampton £5m; Mathias Normann Rostov Loan; Ozan Kabak Schalke Loan; Billy Gilmour Chelsea Loan; Brandon Williams Manchester Utd Loan

Out Emiliano Buendia Aston Villa £33m

Even assuming the highly unlike scenario that the loans of Normann and Kabak were free this would be a net spend of £15 million. There is no detail on the Sky figures but I can't see how they could possibly be right!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/08/31/premier-league-transfers-2021-22-club-by-club-guide-summer-window/

 

24 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said:

These figures aren’t facts and actually look to me to be a pile of crap.  We never release the value of transfers so those are guesses at best.  And they don’t appear to include a lot of costs….for example, c£15m for Gibson/Giannoulis presumably doesn’t appear as we were committed to it last year…but if that is case it should include Kabak and Normann at c£20m or so as we are committed to those costs this year.  Otherwise they would never make their way into such a chart.  You can’t have your cake and eat it.
 
I could produce a pretty table showing we’d spent £250m if I wanted.  Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t make it true or correct.

And this is it.  They only people who know what we spent and are committed to is the board at NCFC.  
Various journalists get an ‘in the order of’ value, which to the average Joe looks about right.  
So I think my kids could probably do the maths and quickly see we have spent a record amount this summer and for those that need it…’we are trying’. 
And as many have said, what a squad now assembled (regardless of the cost), we can only all hope they settle, gel as a team, triple their value and meet their future wife on a night out that keeps them here for a few years to slowly but surely make us European Champions.  Is that not the plan ?!?!

[Graham Paddons Beard 2,879]

4 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Fair to say our business looks pretty good now. Arsenal however.. Remember when they were always aiming to win the divison? When everytime they brought in new players they were worldclass superstars from big clubs everyone had heard of?And now they go and spend all that on White, Ramsdale and Tomiyasu.

Don’t understand this . We’ve only sold Buendia and bought several ? 
 

 

[king canary 8,924]

10 minutes ago, Graham Paddons Beard said:

Don’t understand this . We’ve only sold Buendia and bought several ? 
 

 

The only way I can see they've reached this figure is by 

a) counting Buendia as £38m

b) Not including loan fees

c) Not including Giannoulis and Ben Gibson.

[PurpleCanary 6,459]

1 hour ago, Graham Paddons Beard said:

Don’t understand this . We’ve only sold Buendia and bought several ? 
 

 

You're not familiar with the principle of a Ponzi scheme then...🤓

[PurpleCanary 6,459]

1 hour ago, king canary said:

The only way I can see they've reached this figure is by 

a) counting Buendia as £38m

b) Not including loan fees

c) Not including Giannoulis and Ben Gibson.

I don't know how this works but I assume some of the contact cancellations we have done include a pay-out to the departing player?

[Badger 2,750]

It's not just our figures that look wrong!

How on earth have Palace only spent £10 million? I thought Guehi cost £20 million alone! They didn't sell anyone - they were all released on frees.

Some of them look about right but others seem significantly out - looks a bit of a mess.

[Canaries north 156]

Any pay out to players leaving will not be counted. Giannoulis and Gibson will be out of last year's budget as that was when the contracts were signed. As for this year's loans with an obligation to buy, they will only count if we meet the obligation.