Ken Hairy 3,769 Posted August 28, 2021 44 minutes ago, Virtual reality said: It’s offside. the keeper wasn’t getting there. You've totally contradicted yourself there. How the **** is Todd interfering with something the keeper was never getting??????? Ludicrous decision, an utter nonsense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chelm Canary 404 Posted August 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, Thirsty Lizard said: The only reason it was given was because Schmeicel ran after the ref screaming and shouting and waving his arms about and the linesman shat himself. Did the flag only go up after the keeper started ranting and raving? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,651 Posted August 28, 2021 We just have to file it under “harsh” and move on. As with the Liverpool game, there were plenty of positives to take - all well and good but we will need to turn those positives into points in the coming weeks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,769 Posted August 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: We just have to file it under “harsh” and move on. Nope, I'm furious about this one, and suggest I'm going to be banging on about it for as long as I have Simon ****ing Hooper 😁 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted August 28, 2021 He was offside. There were not two players between him and the goal. I hate the decision because it was a thunderous header and the keeper would never have got to it. But VAR showed he was marginally, but thats as good as a mile, offside. You can bellyache as much as you want about if it was Manure etc but that verges on the paranoia. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,769 Posted August 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: He was offside. There were not two players between him and the goal. I hate the decision because it was a thunderous header and the keeper would never have got to it. But VAR showed he was marginally, but thats as good as a mile, offside. You can bellyache as much as you want about if it was Manure etc but that verges on the paranoia. But he wasn't interfering with play FFS!!!!!!! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,745 Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, keelansgrandad said: He was offside. There were not two players between him and the goal. I hate the decision because it was a thunderous header and the keeper would never have got to it. But VAR showed he was marginally, but thats as good as a mile, offside. You can bellyache as much as you want about if it was Manure etc but that verges on the paranoia. But the ball wasnt passed to cantwell...the ball was headed at the goal. The question is then was cantwell interfering with schmeichels vision or ability to get to the oncoming ball, which he wasnt 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Besthorpe-48 102 Posted August 28, 2021 Reminds me of the Jerome overhead v Palace important psychological.goal. but it was offside so let's move on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,769 Posted August 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Besthorpe-48 said: but it was offside so let's move on But it wasn't so let's not 🤷♂️ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virtual reality 707 Posted August 28, 2021 54 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said: You've totally contradicted yourself there. How the **** is Todd interfering with something the keeper was never getting??????? Ludicrous decision, an utter nonsense. Not at all. Irrelevant of if he was getting there he was still standing right in front of him. It’s offside 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,769 Posted August 28, 2021 Just now, Virtual reality said: Not at all. Irrelevant of if he was getting there he was still standing right in front of him. It’s offside No not irrelevant at all, Todd has to be preventing Schmeical getting the ball, he's not even close to doing that. Ridiculous decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Pete 1,891 Posted August 28, 2021 It's disappointing. But he's interfering with play, so he's offside. It's a shame, but it's just one of those things. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,970 Posted August 28, 2021 VAR will not relegate us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 1,129 Posted August 28, 2021 59 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: He was offside. There were not two players between him and the goal. I hate the decision because it was a thunderous header and the keeper would never have got to it. But VAR showed he was marginally, but thats as good as a mile, offside. You can bellyache as much as you want about if it was Manure etc but that verges on the paranoia. I suggest you refer to this: https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 1,129 Posted August 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, Virtual reality said: Not at all. Irrelevant of if he was getting there he was still standing right in front of him. It’s offside https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,060 Posted August 28, 2021 36 minutes ago, Pyro Pete said: It's disappointing. But he's interfering with play, so he's offside. It's a shame, but it's just one of those things. How. Remove Cantwell from that phase of play and tell me how it ends differently. Does Todd's presence prevent a genetic mutation that enables Schemeichel's arms to grow the two feet they would have needed to to save it? Does him standing there stop the posts moving in? Did him being there mean McLean got a few extra mph on his header? Total ****. The fact they took all that time shows they wanted to give it but had a call to take from the shower of **** running the WWEPL. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,199 Posted August 28, 2021 The reason it was offside - we are not Manchester United or Liverpool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk Dan 308 Posted August 28, 2021 Read all these posts. My conclusion, I not longer understand the rules of a simple.game. That should be enough to tell you it's wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,935 Posted August 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Ian said: Agreed - the law says: preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or challenging an opponent for the ball Not convinced either of those is true in the above clip. Put it this way, I'm not sure VAR would have over-ruled the linesman if he kept his flag down. If you're dead in front of the keeper, it's expected that you're obscuring his vision. Classic example of that messy formulation - "actively interfering with play" - but he's stood dead in front of Schmeichel, so the first clause is definitely satisfied, so the decision was right. Annoying, but right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,158 Posted August 28, 2021 Why is this so difficult for people to understand??????????????? He wasn't 'preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball' because it was physically impossible for Schmeichel to play the ball. YOU CAN'T PREVENT SOMEBODY FROM DOING SOMETHING THAT THEY COULDN'T HAVE DONE!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,769 Posted August 28, 2021 Shock horror, that bald geordie **** thinks VAR got theirs right and ours wrong. Did Delia shag his dad or something?? That **** always loves sagging us off!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CirclePoint 200 Posted August 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Sjb said: https://fb.watch/7GfZaIa7yk/ I don't understand where the air is between cantwell and their defender. VAR knew they messed up, as they usually/used to show the reasons for it on the screen Cantwell is clearly offside. Further, if you adjusted the camera angle to be aligned, rather than at a slight angle from behind, it would be even more apparent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heading South 24 Posted August 28, 2021 2 hours ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said: But the ball wasnt passed to cantwell...the ball was headed at the goal. The question is then was cantwell interfering with schmeichels vision or ability to get to the oncoming ball, which he wasnt Of course he , Cantwell is virtually in his pocket, the only thing he doesn’t do is push into him as Todd is too light weight , but definitely impeding him from making any sort of effort to get to the ball regardless of wether he would have ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,158 Posted August 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Heading South said: Of course he , Cantwell is virtually in his pocket, the only thing he doesn’t do is push into him as Todd is too light weight , but definitely impeding him from making any sort of effort to get to the ball regardless of wether he would have ! What on earth are you talking about? Cantwell is stood in front of Schmeichel. For Schmeichel to save it he would have to have dived to his left. Cantwell is doing nothing to stop Schmeichel diving to his left is he? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,745 Posted August 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Heading South said: Of course he , Cantwell is virtually in his pocket, the only thing he doesn’t do is push into him as Todd is too light weight , but definitely impeding him from making any sort of effort to get to the ball regardless of wether he would have ! If the ball was coming straight at ...or within reachable distance of Schmeichel , then yes....but its gone in the corner. A) he wasnt getting there ..B) it didnt stop him from diving across Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,769 Posted August 28, 2021 So many people here including it seems Shearer (although he just loves hating on us), that do not understand that rule 😔 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Costessey Posse 22 Posted August 28, 2021 note defender's heel. Also, as the ball comes in, it's Schmeichel who has his hands on Todd, who is just standing there. **** decision Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet 293 Posted August 28, 2021 Cantwell was just goal side of their last defender, that's ok if he is not interfering but he was trying to impede Schmeichel. Schmeichel made no effort to get around Cantwell but knew he didn't need to because Cantwell was impeding/interfering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet 293 Posted August 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Costessey Posse said: note defender's heel. Also, as the ball comes in, it's Schmeichel who has his hands on Todd, who is just standing there. **** decision I think the defender moved up from this position as McLean heads it, putting Cantwell offside and Cantwell is impeding Schmeichel's ability to move out which is probably what is called interfering with play Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,158 Posted August 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, Mullet said: I think the defender moved up from this position as McLean heads it, putting Cantwell offside and Cantwell is impeding Schmeichel's ability to move out which is probably what is called interfering with play But why would Schmeichel be moving out when the ball is flying into the corner of the net five yards to his left? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites