Ben Kensell

[chicken 2,624]

The bungle of magnitude here is many posters lack of ability to actually read, then take in the key pieces of information from the article.

It just makes people's "woke" and "vocal minority" comments all the more pathetic to be quite honest. Rather than actually read the information given to you, you would rather plaster your own views and twists on it without consideration.

And you wonder why people may have to be "vocal" when confronted with that level of, well, stupidity.

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,811]

[Indy_Bones 441]

23 minutes ago, Dean Coneys boots said:

I don’t like a culture in which there is no forgiveness- sad 

You can forgive someone and still fire them...

[CANARYKING 637]

5 minutes ago, FatCanary said:

he was leaving in May originally anyway. I'm guessing he's only been here longer trying to fix his own mistake with BK8.

Fair play. Good luck to him.

Leaving in May, left on 16 June, working his notice ?

[chicken 2,624]

9 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

Not sure why he would want to leave though. The statement on the Pinkun doesn't say the decision to leave was before the BK8 fiasco. The wording and statement is one of sadness and resignation rather than an upbeat looking for a new challenge.

We'll draw on own conclusions from that.

Someone has literally screen shot you a piece of an article from Bailey... an incredibly reliable source of club information.

So, do we draw our conclusions from his informed article or your uninformed interpretation of an article? 

I think the decision here is relatively easy and straightforward.

[TeemuVanBasten 3,327]

23 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

Yes the classic 'pursuing new challenges'.

An OTT response on here and elsewhere has probably cost him his job as no doubt he would still be here had it gone through smoothly.

I suspect it was the best job he'll ever have.

I suspect it was the response of other club partners which would be most alarming.

I wonder whether you'd be the one volunteering to go into the board room to show Delia and MWJ the video of the **** star deep throating a hot dog, when they asked for an explanation of what was going on. 

Can't imagine that would have been comfortable. 

If something is too uncomfortable to show a nice old lady then its not suitable for a family club, simple

[CANARYKING 637]

Webber’s next, then Farke

[chicken 2,624]

1 minute ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

I suspect it was the response of other club partners which would be most alarming.

I wonder whether you'd be the one volunteering to go into the board room to show Delia and MWJ the video of the **** star deep throating a hot dog, when they asked for an explanation of what was going on. 

Can't imagine that would have been comfortable. 

If something is too uncomfortable to show a nice old lady then its not suitable for a family club, simple

TVB - not worth responding to this one. The people getting hot under the collar about this haven't even read the article in question...

[TeemuVanBasten 3,327]

7 minutes ago, chicken said:

The bungle of magnitude here is many posters lack of ability to actually read, then take in the key pieces of information from the article.

What key pieces of information is that then, because Archant call it a "surprise" and then Athletic claim he was due to leave in May. Only one of them can be right.

 

 

Edited June 16, 2021 by TeemuVanBasten

[Uncle Fred 526]

It wouldn’t surprise me if he gets replaced by Nepotism Tom 

[king canary 7,603]

Yeah I'm skeptical about the May part, that seems exceedingly convenient. I'm not sure also that a exec working his notice would be front an center of the sponsorship announcement like Kensell was but I may be wrong. 

Big old lol at the people claiming this is 'woke cancel culture.' I'm sure he's a nice guy but if is leaving due to the sponsorship fiasco it's because he's made one too many high profile **** ups in his time here and will be taking a very decent pay off with him. Just basic accountability in your job, unless you believe employers shouldn't be able to let employees go for messing up their jobs.

[lake district canary 4,531]

12 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

Another good man loses his livelihood due to the actions of the woke activists. Shame on all those that piled in. 

That is about as far and as wide a comment you could get. The guy was already leaving and the BK8 thing was cancelled, not because of scantilly clad women - as a line some people seem determined to keep pushing - but to apparent (alleged) connections to the hard core p0rn industry.  So it was not "woke" to be against it, a word which the same people use as an insult, but common sense.  It was a mistake. An error.  Some people need to "wake" up.

[Capt. Pants 4,225]

9 minutes ago, chicken said:

Someone has literally screen shot you a piece of an article from Bailey... an incredibly reliable source of club information.

So, do we draw our conclusions from his informed article or your uninformed interpretation of an article? 

I think the decision here is relatively easy and straightforward.

As I said I'll draw my own conclusion.

If someone from NCFC BOD or the owners (not some journo) make a statement saying this has absolutely nothing to do with the BK8 fiasco then fair enough.

[Rich T The Biscuit 562]

8 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

What key pieces of information is that then, because Archant call it a "surprise" and then Athletic claim he was due to leave in May. Only one of them can be right.

 

 

Let's be honest here, both are puppets for the football club so invariably say what the club tell them to/allow them to say but in this case there is a clash....

Which one has stepped out of line 🤔

[Indy 3,297]

I can’t believe this deal wasn’t put to the board and signed off, it wouldn’t be down to Kensell to sign on the dotted line, he didn’t do his due diligence, but ultimately he’s paid for that, but the board must have been aware of the same issues the supporters soon questioned the sponsor, so Delia was ok with it!

Edited June 16, 2021 by Indy

[chicken 2,624]

1 minute ago, Capt. Pants said:

As I said I'll draw my own conclusion.

If someone from NCFC BOD or the owners (not some journo) make a statement saying this has absolutely nothing to do with the BK8 fiasco then fair enough.

Bailey is not "some journo" though. And when given the choice between someone who calls themselves Capt. Pants on a forum or someone who has links to the club as part of their profession, I know exactly who should be believed. And it most certainly isn't a forum random... 

[TIL 1010 4,737]

If only Andy Cullen had not gone to Portsmouth as he would be the ideal replacement.

[shefcanary 2,393]

Call me a wokey if you want but the statement of him deciding to leave in May and all the glossy back slapping is total flam.  Whether he decided to go himself, it was mutual or he was pushed the timing is all due to the BK8 debacle. Otherwise a person of his importance in the club would be working at least a 3 month, more likely a 6 month notice.  I'm not particularly senior in my own organisation but I have a 3 month notice period to work.  To be leaving as promptly as reported means one and one thing only - he had to go.

And for those saying he got more right than wrong, he has been behind 3 absolute bell-end decisions over the past three seasons - in any line of work, your first offence gets a verbal warning, the second a written warning, the third the boot.  Does that sound woke enough?  The guy failed, he had to go.

Edited June 16, 2021 by shefcanary

[TeemuVanBasten 3,327]

7 minutes ago, chicken said:

Bailey is not "some journo" though. And when given the choice between someone who calls themselves Capt. Pants on a forum or someone who has links to the club as part of their profession, I know exactly who should be believed. And it most certainly isn't a forum random... 

So you are saying that the club gives more info to Michael Bailey than it does Paddy Davitt, despite Bailey now writing behind a pay wall to an audience of perhaps a couple of thousand Norwich fans... and Davitt reaching the whole of Norfolk through the Archant website, EDP, Evening News and Pink'un?

And if so, why is it the Pink'un that got the video interview with Webber a few weeks ago?

Not buying that at all. 

[Terminally Yellow 2,448]

8 minutes ago, Indy said:

I can’t believe this deal wasn’t put to the board and signed off, it wouldn’t be down to Kensell to sign on the dotted line, he didn’t do his due diligence, but ultimately he’s paid for that, but the board must have been aware of the same issues the supporters soon questioned the sponsor, so Delia was ok with it!

I'd be shocked if they had any say in anything sponsorship wise.

Why would they? Surely it's one of those things you delegate to the people responsible and leave to it, or else what's the point in having a whole team that do these things?

[PurpleCanary 5,557]

16 minutes ago, Indy said:

I can’t believe this deal wasn’t put to the board and signed off, it wouldn’t be down to Kensell to sign on the dotted line, he didn’t do his due diligence, but ultimately he’s paid for that, but the board must have been aware of the same issues the supporters soon questioned the sponsor, so Delia was ok with it!

Indy, I would be astonished if that was true. I am as sure as I can be that the board didn't know of the soft and indeed hard core **** stuff.

Edited June 16, 2021 by PurpleCanary

[TIL 1010 4,737]

https://www.canaries.co.uk/News/2021/june/ben-kensell?fbclid=IwAR3MJMue_-t1CDIdCpAtUL4aWwjZef47WgMVDM09L5wFe4AMJdp_6KYHVFY

[chicken 2,624]

13 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

What key pieces of information is that then, because Archant call it a "surprise" and then Athletic claim he was due to leave in May. Only one of them can be right.

I'd believe Baily he has been more reliable than Archant to be honest. I don't think he'd have left them to join a new venture if he didn't have some solid contacts with which to get information from. I don't think that's any slight on the Archant team, just that Bailey was a pillar of their team and appears to be getting scoops before them still.

As he isn't Archant, I suspect he'd also be less constrained by any believed "relationship" with the club that people feel Archant has and so plays to the club's tune.

Either way, the surprise is in us finding out now and in this way - not necessarily when the decision was made.

[Rolf Harris 31]

3 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

So you are saying that the club gives more info to Michael Bailey than it does Paddy Davitt, despite Bailey now writing behind a pay wall to an audience of perhaps a couple of thousand Norwich fans... and Davitt reaching the whole of Norfolk through the Archant website, EDP, Evening News and Pink'un?

And if so, why is it the Pink'un that got the video interview with Webber a few weeks ago?

Not buying that at all. 

Well archant is ncfc mouth piece. They only know what they are allowed to know and say. I suppose Bailey could have sources within the club.

Edited June 16, 2021 by Rolf Harris

[Capt. Pants 4,225]

13 minutes ago, chicken said:

Bailey is not "some journo" though. And when given the choice between someone who calls themselves Capt. Pants on a forum or someone who has links to the club as part of their profession, I know exactly who should be believed. And it most certainly isn't a forum random... 

Believe what you like sunshine as will I.

[chicken 2,624]

4 minutes ago, shefcanary said:

Call me a wokey if you want but the statement of him deciding to leave in May and all the glossy back slapping is total flam.  Whether he decided to go himself, it was mutual or he was pushed the timing is all due to the BK8 debacle. Otherwise a person of his importance in the club would be working at least a 3 month, more likely a 6 month notice.  I'm not particularly senior in my own organisation but I have a 3 month notice period to work.  To be leaving as promptly as reported means one and one thing only - he had to go.

And for those saying he got more right than wrong, he has been behind 3 absolute bell-end decisions over the past three seasons - in any line of work, your first offence gets a verbal warning, the second a written warning, the third the boot.  Does that sound woke enough?  The guy failed, he had to go.

I would say in this day and age, a 6month notice period is a luxury, hell, even a three month notice period is. I have been working for my employer for 14 years, I think my notice period is a month or two at most.

[FatCanary 249]

33 minutes ago, CANARYKING said:

Leaving in May, left on 16 June, working his notice ?

Surely you've left at the end of your notice not the start 

[chicken 2,624]

1 minute ago, Capt. Pants said:

Believe what you like sunshine as will I.

What you are believing though, is a conspiracy theory because you believe it to be more accurate than some "journo".

At which point, I think you type by dictating to a trained monkey you bought on a trip to Timbuktu. Whilst sitting in an old armchair wearing nothing but a soiled old smoking jacket taking swigs from a very cheap bottle of whiskey and stroking a badly kempt moustache. 

That's every bit as reliable as you believing in your own hyped up opinion.

[shefcanary 2,393]

Just now, chicken said:

I would say in this day and age, a 6month notice period is a luxury, hell, even a three month notice period is. I have been working for my employer for 14 years, I think my notice period is a month or two at most.

Ha, this is a club run by the Stowmarket socialists isn't it?  It will have been very generous.  He's had a nice pay off, everyone has agreed in a legal document to be very nice and Mr Bailey has been used as an "informal" mouthpiece so no-one else has to speak to the press!  I call bull.....

[Indy 3,297]

7 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

Indy, I was be astonished if that was true. I am as sure as I can be that the board didn't know of the soft and indeed hard core **** stuff.

Only asking the question, did they do the due diligence correctly? I’d be astonished if any major sponsorship deal isn’t signed off by the board! It’s too big a deal to be left for Kensell alone. 
I’m sure they knew the reputation linked with this company, possibly not all the fine details but funny how quick they were highlighted by normal people not involved in due diligence, so makes me think they took a chance for £5 million.

Edited June 16, 2021 by Indy