CLUB STATEMENT- BK8 CONTRACT TERMINATED

[hogesar 9,618]

6 minutes ago, king canary said:

I know when I want to make women believe I'm a better potential partner, the place is chose to display it is the pinkun dot com. Absolutely rolling with single women just wanting to meet a life partner.

Didnt you know this is the place to come to get laid? The REAL reason this site is called the Pink...OK no I've made more than enough inappropriate jokes on this forum this week.

[Mr Apples 1,317]

Breaking club statement - Hotdogs will now also be removed from all food kiosks within the ground and replaced with less phallocentric snack options. 

Apples

[king canary 7,578]

2 minutes ago, hogesar said:

Didnt you know this is the place to come to get laid? The REAL reason this site is called the Pink...OK no I've made more than enough inappropriate jokes on this forum this week.

The only reason I get into disagreements on here is pure sexual tension. 

[sonyc 5,491]

Just now, king canary said:

The only reason I get into disagreements on here is pure sexual tension. 

That is the most Freudian post ever KC😄

[hogesar 9,618]

1 minute ago, king canary said:

The only reason I get into disagreements on here is pure sexual tension. 

If that were true for all of us it'd certainly make me look very open for sexual exploration across all kinds of demographics..

[TheGunnShow 5,932]

1 minute ago, sonyc said:

That is the most Freudian post ever KC😄

Sometimes a hotdog is just a hotdog.

[FatCanary 249]

7 minutes ago, spindrift said:

You reckon it's just a coincidence that the women most likely to suffer horrible sexual exploitation have the worst socio economic prospects?

 

 

your sounding board of standard issue pro-agenda rhetoric is all well and good IF the women we are talking about, in the BK8 marketing, were unpaid, mistreated, coerced or exploited.

Where. Is. Your. Evidence?

[Branston Pickle 3,634]

6 minutes ago, hogesar said:

Commonsense,  would be my guess 😀

Ha!  
Just doesn’t seem likely, to me.

[FatCanary 249]

2 minutes ago, sonyc said:

That is the most Freudian post ever KC😄

i love this (and the post in question) but i have no more reactions to give.

Boy, am I one tired alleged misogynist today

[Mello Yello 2,279]

....The way forward!.....Square is fair!.....

[TeemuVanBasten 3,327]

8 minutes ago, Robornio said:

Well, this is massive. Well done to the club for being bold and admitting it’s an error. 

Indeed, I'm waiting for some posters to admit that they'd made an error... 

I mean, it doesn't take a genius to work out how some of our other partners would have been alarmed by this partnership.... not just the hot dog felatio, but the general murkiness and obscurity of the business.

https://www.canaries.co.uk/Commercial/Partner-Portfolio/

Not a good look for Fosters Solicitors, for example, if it transpires that BK8 are a bunch of crooks (which they appear to be, operating in markets where gambling is illegal!).

I wonder whether 888 Sport might step up?

 

[horsefly 4,287]

11 minutes ago, Mr Apples said:

Breaking club statement - Hotdogs will now also be removed from all food kiosks within the ground and replaced with less phallocentric snack options. 

Apples

Replaced with burgers but NO baps!!!

[FatCanary 249]

2 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

Indeed, I'm waiting for some posters to admit that they'd made an error... 

I mean, it doesn't take a genius to work out how some of our other partners would have been alarmed by this partnership.... not just the hot dog felatio, but the general murkiness and obscurity of the business.

https://www.canaries.co.uk/Commercial/Partner-Portfolio/

Not a good look for Fosters Solicitors, for example, if it transpires that BK8 are a bunch of crooks (which they appear to be, operating in markets where gambling is illegal!).

I wonder whether 888 Sport might step up?

 

I thought you were foaming at the mouth* and calling for Ben Kensell's head, still?

 

*no offence to epileptics intended

[spindrift 23]

Just now, FatCanary said:

your sounding board of standard issue pro-agenda rhetoric is all well and good IF the women we are talking about, in the BK8 marketing, were unpaid, mistreated, coerced or exploited.

Where. Is. Your. Evidence?

What were they paid?

 

Were they paid anything?

 

Was it made clear to the girls that they would be mimicking ****?

 

Were they given the chance to withhold the footage if they realised they had been exploited?

 

Do south East Asian gambling firms have a scrupulously rigorous vetting procedure to ensure no exploitation takes place?

 

You have literally no idea so assigning the purest motives to a company that we know circumvents ASA rules to promote gambling is naive in the extreme.

[FatCanary 249]

Just now, spindrift said:

What were they paid?

 

Were they paid anything?

 

Was it made clear to the girls that they would be mimicking ****?

 

Were they given the chance to withhold the footage if they realised they had been exploited?

 

Do south East Asian gambling firms have a scrupulously rigorous vetting procedure to ensure no exploitation takes place?

 

You have literally no idea so assigning the purest motives to a company that we know circumvents ASA rules to promote gambling is naive in the extreme.

Ah, the old I'll answer your question with a question, sir gambit

YOU are the one making these baseless assumptions.

The onus is on YOU to provide the evidence.

No? Didn't think so.

[Robornio 106]

14 minutes ago, spindrift said:

You reckon it's just a coincidence that the women most likely to suffer horrible sexual exploitation have the worst socio economic prospects?

Ah splendid. Virtue signalling with little knowledge of a point. Funny enough, my friend is neither “sexually exploited” nor socially or economically deprived. If someone wishes to model or use their body for an aesthetic profession, that is their choice. It doesn’t need a self-appointed professor of offence deciding what is acceptable. Thank you and good day. 😊

[FatCanary 249]

Just now, Robornio said:

Ah splendid. Virtue signalling with little knowledge of a point. Funny enough, my friend is neither “sexually exploited” nor socially or economically deprived. If someone wishes to model or use their body for an aesthetic profession, that is their choice. It doesn’t need a self-appointed professor of offence deciding what is acceptable. Thank you and good day. 😊

[Feedthewolf 4,844]

21 minutes ago, sonyc said:

Thank you Wolfy. That's a generous comment.

I'm with you on the latter points you've made (and fine on the first paragraph too). I think my main reasons for discomfort are the strength and forcefulness of opinion. Of any opinion actually on any subject. It might be politics of course, to pick an obvious example. And this affair is sexual politics too.  In matters of sex and love, I actually don't care what people do, so long as it's legal and secondly, consensual. I'm not sure whether those women in the videos 'really' gave their consent. Perhaps they did but I'm not wholly convinced. It's a slippery slope then isn't it? For example folk who engage in domestic violence are more likely to be abusive in other domains. Unpleasant, but is borne out.

I think before people jump to righteous conclusions about anything they certainly need to know some facts. And we don't know them but can make our best guesses. In that case, why should we take SUCH a moral position? We don't know until we know.

I believe in being as neutral in making a decision about any person. To be open minded. I'm the same with my politics. I have a preferred stance but am open to different views. You have to work with folk you often don't like. But what is that 'dislike' about? That's the important question.

Too much righteousness is as bad as too much laxness. The latter means a problem is not examined enough. We do need people to call things wrong at times .... especially important today. 

I guess I'm arguing for balance and moderation! And not belittling of posters who one disagrees with. Sometimes people get upset about posts that are obviously sardonic or are dry in humour.

Anyway, though not I'm not especially religious,  as such as my partner will often say (which is a bit like the saying 'people in greenhouses') there's a more rounded maxim..."there for the grace of god go I". No-one is perfect (thankfully).

A fair and excellent post. I probably rushed to judgement a bit quickly without considering the cultural norms in Asia, and how this content would not be viewed with such disgust in the markets for which it was intended.

However, it's still a wildly inappropriate fit for a club with our supposed ED&I principles, and I am both relieved and heartened that they've reversed the decision. Perhaps that publicity in itself might make us more attractive to more wholesome investment? Owning a mistake, reversing it and apologising for it so quickly is a good look, despite the appalling decision-making that led to the announcement in the first place.

[Mello Yello 2,279]

I went to a lap-dancing club once.....and I tell thee....them bl00dy reindeers weigh a ton.....

[FatCanary 249]

1 minute ago, Feedthewolf said:

A fair and excellent post. I probably rushed to judgement a bit quickly without considering the cultural norms in Asia, and how this content would not be viewed with such disgust in the markets for which it was intended.

However, it's still a wildly inappropriate fit for a club with our supposed ED&I principles, and I am both relieved and heartened that they've reversed the decision. Perhaps that publicity in itself might make us more attractive to more wholesome investment? Owning a mistake, reversing it and apologising for it so quickly is a good look, despite the appalling decision-making that led to the announcement in the first place.

Very well said.

[Yellow Fever 3,747]

2 hours ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

Brilliant news.

I note that the club have stated that they'd had pressure from other partners (so other sponsors), nobody had really considered that angle had they! 

Still leaves a bit of a sour taste in my mouth, particularly the posters on here who have sought to defend and rationalise the deal at every turn - utterly embarressing for them. 

Glad the club has seen sense, I bet Delia was not very pleased with this deal and will have been asking questions about whether some execs now have too much autonomy. 

I'd pay an extra tenner for a sponsorless shirt if that helps the club at all this season. 

 

The issue is I regard as ALL the 'betting' sponsors in football as inherently seedy.

[FatCanary 249]

I stand by my words on this thread but I do apologise if I have upset anybody. 

It is not my intention to trivialise personal experiences with sexual imagery.

[king canary 7,578]

I notice one ex 'big name poster' on here is claiming on twitter that if we go down it will be the fans who kicked off about this who are to blame. 

[horsefly 4,287]

10 minutes ago, FatCanary said:

your sounding board of standard issue pro-agenda rhetoric is all well and good IF the women we are talking about, in the BK8 marketing, were unpaid, mistreated, coerced or exploited.

Where. Is. Your. Evidence?

I take your general point that we need to be careful not become over censorious when it comes to how women choose to make their living. However, there were many alternative ways in which BK8 could have utilised the talents of these attractive women rather than to get them to simulate oral sex. It really is a peverse look for a club much praised for its encouragement of young football fans and family values to be associated with this sort of advertising. I'm personally relieved not to be faced with the dilemma of whether to purchase a shirt this season because of BK8's reputation (Let's hope they don't now get sponsored by Babe Station).

[Uncle Fred 526]

Glad to see my sustained pressure has forced the club to come to its senses

another big big win for me 

[spindrift 23]

3 minutes ago, Robornio said:

Ah splendid. Virtue signalling with little knowledge of a point. Funny enough, my friend is neither “sexually exploited” nor socially or economically deprived. If someone wishes to model or use their body for an aesthetic profession, that is their choice. It doesn’t need a self-appointed professor of offence deciding what is acceptable. Thank you and good day. 😊

If your friend wasn't horribly sexually exploited then your anecdote has nothing to do with my point.

 

You may not be aware that there is a long and horrific history of young women being tricked, coerced or induced into explicit sexual acts without informed consent.  If it can happen in the US, with all the socio economic advantages that American women enjoy, then it's incredibly naive to maintain it can't happen in south east asia:

 

https://happymag.tv/girlsdoporn-explained-adult-site/

 

Remember that BK8 used these young women and has already been caught circumventing UK regulations to cross-promote hard core pornography.   Not the best outfit to trust.

[FatCanary 249]

Just now, horsefly said:

I take your general point that we need to be careful not become over censorious when it comes to how women choose to make their living. However, there were many alternative ways in which BK8 could have utilised the talents of these attractive women rather than to get them to simulate oral sex. It really is a peverse look for a club much praised for its encouragement of young football fans and family values to be associated with this sort of advertising. I'm personally relieved not to be faced with the dilemma of whether to purchase a shirt this season because of BK8's reputation (Let's hope they don't now get sponsored by Babe Station).

Couldn't agree more with anybody who thinks it is a bad look for our club.

We just can't claim it is a bad look for women without actually entertaining the possibility that these women were just up for a laugh.

If they were tricked into it, then it is abhorrent. We simply do not know. 

I refuse to go to war on assumption.

[FatCanary 249]

1 minute ago, Uncle Fred said:

Glad to see my sustained pressure has forced the club to come to its senses

another big big win for me 

we don't need to hear about your sustained pressure, fred old pal

[horsefly 4,287]

2 minutes ago, king canary said:

I notice one ex 'big name poster' on here is claiming on twitter that if we go down it will be the fans who kicked off about this who are to blame. 

Haha! Do tell!

[FatCanary 249]

2 minutes ago, horsefly said:

Haha! Do tell!

it;s Morty, isn't it