Creative Midfielder 2,180 Posted June 6, 2021 25 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: How do you define a "fire sale", as this wouldn't suit my definition at all. And I doubt the squad is the slightest bit shocked by Emi leaving, and I'm surprised any fans are - been little tid bits from him over the course of the season which hinted that he wanted out. Thought it was pretty easy to add 2+2 and come out with 4, and that we'd settled him down early last season by committing to selling him this summer. Doing so undoubtedly won us the league last season. Its not an ideal situation, and I'm gutted that its Villa as think he could have done better for himself, but I'm struggling to understand why Norwich fans are shocked or surprised. ^ This - its been pretty well trailed that Emi would be going so I doubt that it is a surprise to many fans and certainly not to the team. Price is perhaps disappointing low so hopefully Webber knows what he's doing and TBF his track record so far suggests that he does. The one thing I find really surprising is that he has chosen to go to a club like Villa, seems like he (or perhaps his agent?) are repeating Paul Lambert's mistake of snatching a little desperately at the first offer that comes along rather than showing a bit of patience and ending up at a top club - something that they are (were in Lambert's case) both capable of. Lambert's career never recovered from that one rash (and foolish IMO) move and I hope for Emi's sake that this move doesn't go the same way - there is no doubt that he has been fantastic for us and losing him was always going to be painful but I think many of us expected it would be to a top club which might not have lessened the pain but certainly made the move more understandable. Just can't see why he would go to Villa unless it is purely about the cash - if so its a great shame because Emi has always appeared to be passionate about his football... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virtual reality 819 Posted June 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Herman said: Read this. Ignore this. You can ignore it all you want but it’s the truth. No other newly promoted fan base would have accepted such a sale with such a flippant attitude Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 4,207 Posted June 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, Virtual reality said: What’s lame is our fan base being so wet that some are actually trying to defend this sale... Posted these for Uncle Fred earlier, think they're suitable for you too fella 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virtual reality 819 Posted June 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said: Posted these for Uncle Fred earlier, think they're suitable for you too fella 👍 Hilarious. I’ll be here all week with such levels of humour... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 10,952 Posted June 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Virtual reality said: You can ignore it all you want but it’s the truth. No other newly promoted fan base would have accepted such a sale with such a flippant attitude Some of us live in the real world. None of us are happy to see a fantastic player leave but we get what the club are doing, we've known what the plan is and we understand that a lot of great players will leave, hopefully for good money. If you want a long term viable club then this is how it is going to be until we become another Man City. If you want to support a billionaire owned, Football Manager style club then maybe this one isn't for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virtual reality 819 Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Herman said: Some of us live in the real world. None of us are happy to see a fantastic player leave but we get what the club are doing, we've known what the plan is and we understand that a lot of great players will leave, hopefully for good money. If you want a long term viable club then this is how it is going to be until we become another Man City. If you want to support a billionaire owned, Football Manager style club then maybe this one isn't for you. Absolute lack of ambition summed up on one post. Acceptance of not being able to compete with a mid table club which is surely the point in us being here Edited June 6, 2021 by Virtual reality Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 10,952 Posted June 6, 2021 He wanted to move on. What do you expect the club to do? Throw away the last few years of work to chain an unhappy player to the club, spending millions of pounds to do it. There's ambition or just sheer stupidity. Wake up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Angry 1,810 Posted June 6, 2021 This might help those struggling to correctly identify what a fire sale looks like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanaryLegend 19 Posted June 6, 2021 Tell you what we should ignore, naive fans thinking this is in anyway positive. The term cloud cuckoo land comes to mind. In today’s world this is absolutely bonkers and undervalues his true worth. Covid or no Covid money is still in the game. We have just raised the white flag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 7,580 Posted June 6, 2021 5 hours ago, CanaryLegend said: Glad some people are happy with no ambition. Typical mentality of so many at the club. We are relegated already and those who think we have a chance are deluded. Dont worry lads we still got Hugill! 'no ambition' Strange how theres lots of brand new accounts popping up from nowhere saying nothing but this famous line over and over.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 10,952 Posted June 6, 2021 ..and they're not one of the Waveneys.😀 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,166 Posted June 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Terminally Yellow said: Fire sale!!!!!!! 😂😂😂 Exactly my reaction, TY! 🤣😂😂😂 Pant wetting at its very finest, I salute the OP! 👏👏👏 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paint Me Yellow 200 Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) I think some of our fans still believe that once a player pulls on a yellow shirt, he should be guard dog loyal to the club and Norfolk in general. I mean how DARE he leave?!?! How DARE other clubs offer us actual money that we need to run the club with for any of our players?!?! The absolute cheek of it....! Edited June 6, 2021 by Paint Me Yellow 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimthechip 39 Posted June 6, 2021 53 minutes ago, CanaryLegend said: Tell you what we should ignore, naive fans thinking this is in anyway positive. The term cloud cuckoo land comes to mind. In today’s world this is absolutely bonkers and undervalues his true worth. Covid or no Covid money is still in the game. We have just raised the white flag. Your posts throughout this thread show all the signs of hyperbole reserved for those living in Suffolk that have decided to "wind up them budgies". This is all about player power. He was convinced to stay for the last season where his value was £35 mill. He has clearly been told that we will not block moves at that value. If he wants to stay then he'll stay. Personally I think keeping him for a year and selling him at £35 mill has been much more beneficial than selling him last summer. As for lack of ambition, have a word with yourself! We have come so far since League 1, our trajectory is upwards, why risk it all to appease some ill informed whiney fans? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeiranShikari 1,524 Posted June 6, 2021 15 minutes ago, Paint Me Yellow said: I think some of our fans still believe that once a player pulls on a yellow shirt, he should be guard dog loyal to the club and Norfolk in general. I mean how DARE he leave?!?! How DARE other clubs offer us actual money that we need to run the club with for any of our players?!?! The absolute cheek of it....! Seeing Rob Butler ask Jonny Howson if he's feeling like a proud Norfolk boy after a few years here is one of the worst things I've ever seen in sport. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,609 Posted June 6, 2021 Morale of The Squad After Fire Sale ..... probably sky high that corners and free kicks will no longer be an anti climax .😇 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 7,091 Posted June 6, 2021 Just now, wcorkcanary said: Morale of The Squad After Fire Sale ..... probably sky high that corners and free kicks will no longer be an anti climax .😇 And big Grant Hanley's probably thinking "aye, ah maht git ma fekkin' bonce onna kupple, och aye, tha' fuggin' noo!!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keefyboy 21 Posted June 6, 2021 Selling a player well below his worth to me is a fire sale in all but name. Emi price was 40m we get 30m and bits. Crap business Maddison all over again. Very disappointed in Webber 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted June 6, 2021 6 hours ago, Fen Canary said: I’d say the opposite, that while they will be gutted to see a good player leave, it will give them hope that if they perform then the club won’t stand in their way if a better offer comes along. The club showing that they stand by their word in improving players and not standing in their way will get a good reputation when it comes to signing new ones This. The sale is part of the model, both from a financial point of view and attracting even better quality talent into the academy. Block the sales and the players won’t come - at least not for the reason that they know Norwich is a stepping stone, they will come because it’s a last payday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,609 Posted June 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said: And big Grant Hanley's probably thinking "aye, ah maht git ma fekkin' bonce onna kupple, och aye, tha' fuggin' noo!!" Indeed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Essjayess 307 Posted June 6, 2021 I have rarely seen such a nonsensical opening post as this one...i think the firesale term has been adequately explained by others...Emi sold cheap???..goodness me..Covid was already mentioned by others in this topic...empty stadiums for over a year to (obviously Covid connected)...a club with an almost unique set up structure that is proving to be working..but above all these factors to...City get 33 million upfront...add ons that will likely take it 40 million and sell on clause that could eventually take it to 50 mill...cheap?..in these Covid stricken times? I have an inkling that by the time the new Prem season starts the Buendia sale will have been put well aside by fans and players alike and a City squad with new faces will be rearing to go...with fans eager to see how City fare this time around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,357 Posted June 6, 2021 22 minutes ago, keefyboy said: Selling a player well below his worth to me is a fire sale in all but name. Emi price was 40m we get 30m and bits. Crap business Maddison all over again. Very disappointed in Webber 😂 Very good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 736 Posted June 6, 2021 44 minutes ago, keefyboy said: Selling a player well below his worth to me is a fire sale in all but name. Emi price was 40m we get 30m and bits. Crap business Maddison all over again. Very disappointed in Webber Maddison all over again! My god you do realise that without selling Maddison the club was heading for sheet creek without a paddle? We used that money to strengthen and it’s been the catalyst to drive the club forwards. Last time we were in the Prem we were physically lightweight and our squad depth couldn’t cope with the injuries we had. Emi’s money we be used for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paint Me Yellow 200 Posted June 6, 2021 1 hour ago, keefyboy said: Selling a player well below his worth to me is a fire sale in all but name. Emi price was 40m we get 30m and bits. Crap business Maddison all over again. Very disappointed in Webber No. A few deluded sops on this forum said he was worth £40m. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,385 Posted June 6, 2021 Wait, have I been wrong in my belief on the definition of fire sale all this time?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,385 Posted June 6, 2021 1 hour ago, keefyboy said: Selling a player well below his worth to me is a fire sale in all but name. Emi price was 40m we get 30m and bits. Crap business Maddison all over again. Very disappointed in Webber Maddison was a record sale for the division at that time with not a single minute of Premier league experience, in a market where clubs new we had to sell. It was fantastic business by Webber, which is why he's currently working at a Premier League club in a vital role and your posting on the PinkUn from your mums basement on a Sunday afternoon. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keefyboy 21 Posted June 6, 2021 Won't get in an argument with some bullies on there. My view is/was Emi worth more and I think Maddison was to - if it comes out that buendia pushed for a move - then maybe the club didn't have a choice but Webber did say 'we didn't have to sell.. then we did on the cheap 'I feel' but over now - lets give it a go next season - will be nice to be back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 5,693 Posted June 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Paint Me Yellow said: No. A few deluded sops on this forum said he was worth £40m. How much do you think he was worth? If (as is likely) he was agitating for a move, then the deal we got is okay in the post-Covid climate. Look at the stats he racked up last time he was in the PL, and how ridiculously good he was this season, and I don't think £40m is unrealistic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,385 Posted June 6, 2021 11 minutes ago, Feedthewolf said: How much do you think he was worth? If (as is likely) he was agitating for a move, then the deal we got is okay in the post-Covid climate. Look at the stats he racked up last time he was in the PL, and how ridiculously good he was this season, and I don't think £40m is unrealistic. I think the only thing that likely stopped him being nearer a 50m signing was lack of goalscoring in the prem last time. That and we didnt finish alot of the chances he created as a team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keefyboy 21 Posted June 6, 2021 At least 40m wait for the stick. I wouldn't have picked the phone up for less than 70m. World class player under contact - good chance to keep us up - more premier league tv money by staying up next season, now he will only go up in value and villa will sell him for 70+ in two or three if they progress - missed opportunity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
