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2 minutes ago, Jim Smith said:

He’s not a Norwich player any more and the way he has jumped ship leaves a sour taste in the mouth. I hope his career flops from now on to be honest. 

Well that's just narrow minded thinking isn't it.

I hope he gets an £80m move to Real Madrid within 18 months, we get a big sell on fee, and it sends a message to footballers world wide that if you want to reach the top of the game then you should come to the famous Colney finishing school. 

Because that is why talented young players (like Oliver Skipp) want tp come to Norwich, because they've seen the likes of James Maddison, Max Aarons, Ben Godfrey et al develop into quality players.

Did you have a similar level of anomosity towards Ben Godfrey?

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13 hours ago, Keith Scott said:

Jesus wept, the state of this thread sums up our fanbase! Wishing him luck at Aston Villa! No wonder we are such a tinpot oufit. Fans up and down the land would be laughing at this. Embarrassing. Personally hope he breaks his leg first game, never plays for Villa again, and they get relegated. But then I'm not NFN.

Not From Norfolk👍

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5 minutes ago, Ultralk26 said:

Let me guess your one of those guardian readers who moan about the state of the environment but drive a Range Rover and have the heating on always. Moan about capitalism and pushes marxist politics even though your life is built on the back of hard working people in the country. Do one and go live in Venezuela.

No actually, I read The Telegraph and The Times and consider myself to be centre-right, which has been well documented on this forum.

Just that the Daily Express is for simpletons who have no GCSEs because they skived lessons to smoke fags behind the cycle shelter and masturbated 3 times a day instead of doing their homework, and then blame being on minimum wage at 40 on foreigners instead of their own failings. That is your type of bitterness. 

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Just now, TeemuVanBasten said:

No actually, I read The Telegraph and The Times and consider myself to be centre-right, which has been well documented on this forum.

Just that the Daily Express is for simpletons who have no GCSEs because they skived lessons to smoke fags behind the cycle shelter and masturbated 3 times a day instead of doing their homework, and then blame being on minimum wage at 40 on foreigners instead of their own failings. That is your type of bitterness. 

Plenty of stereotypes in there, centre right? Lol don’t make me laugh … let me guess BLM is a good cause aswell.  Your far left like most on here I’m guessing. 

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1 minute ago, Ultralk26 said:

Plenty of stereotypes in there, centre right? Lol don’t make me laugh … let me guess BLM is a good cause aswell.  Your far left like most on here I’m guessing. 

You're miles out ,idiot, TvB is a little to the right of judge judy.😇

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3 minutes ago, Ultralk26 said:

Plenty of stereotypes in there, centre right? Lol don’t make me laugh … let me guess BLM is a good cause aswell.  Your far left like most on here I’m guessing. 

I'm a committed Tory, and wouldn't wipe my **** on the Daily Express, which is for illiterate morons who are stupid enough to pay for propaganda. Its one thing being thick enough to swallow propaganda, its another being prepared to pay for the privilege.

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Just now, TeemuVanBasten said:

I'm a committed Tory, and wouldn't wipe my **** on the Daily Express, which is for illiterate morons who are stupid enough to pay for propaganda. Its one thing being thick enough to swallow propaganda, its another being prepared to pay for the privilege.

So Is the guardian and the BBC far left propaganda?

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14 minutes ago, Ultralk26 said:

So Is the guardian and the BBC far left propaganda?

Yes and Yes, not economically far left, but culturally (cultural marxists)

But The Guardian can do what they like, they only write for their readership. Why do ypu have a problem with The Guardian, nobody is forced to read it (and their financial problems suggest that few people do).

I have serious issues with BBC partiality problems, mainly because I'm forced to pay for it. Privatise the BBC and they can also do whatever they like. 

But yeah, all those little Argentinians, coming over here stealing English footballers jobs. Its a disaster for good old fashioned English wingers like Elliott Bennett who are forced into playing in the second tier. That's essentially the Daily Express line isn't it? 

Perhaps not actually, many won't consider Elliott Bennett to be English would they, even today.

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33 minutes ago, Jim Smith said:

He’s not a Norwich player any more and the way he has jumped ship leaves a sour taste in the mouth. I hope his career flops from now on to be honest. 

Sad that you feel that way Jim, players have always come and gone so it shouldn't be a sudden surprise. A certain section always think its the end of the world but it never has been and never will be. Anyone remember "No Reeves, no fans, no future"?

The pecking order in football determines everything and while we peck those below so those above peck us. We got our moneys worth out of the little guy who was essentially instrumental in two big money trips to the big time and on a personal level I for one wish him well in his future carreer. That he goes to a rival is a bit disappointing but the best part of 40 million seems reasonable and it looks like he only stayed on the promise of a move this season.

I can understand some wishing that he had gone to a top six club instead of Villa but obviously there was little interest on that score. Villa are historically the biggest club in the midlands so I can understand that his connections feel it is a step up.

 

 

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Just fed the fans lies. Wanted to challenge for titles and trophies. Sorry Emi it ain’t going to be at Villa. Jumped ship as soon as he was offered bigger wages. Not interested in trophies whatsoever. Its fine getting paid more money, just be honest. 
 

Fact is Grealish will probably be sold after the Euro’s. Just hope Atletico come in with an 11th bid. Its the hope that gets you. 

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1 hour ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

Yes and Yes, not economically far left, but culturally (cultural marxists)

Sorry for taking this further off-topic on the football side of the forum, but what do you mean by cultural marxists? The definition seems to range from "a secret cabal of globalists" to "people who think discrimination exists", so it's a bit ambiguous.

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16 hours ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

Hate to say it but if Villa keep hold of Grealish, then an attack of Traore, Grealish, Watkins, and Buendia leaves them being rivals of the likes of Spurs for European places, not the likes of us.

The gulf between Villa and Norwich in terms of quality is currently huge.

 

They won’t though. Emi’s the sweetener. He’ll be paid for by whichever Manchester club buys Grealish.

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35 minutes ago, Bort said:

Sorry for taking this further off-topic on the football side of the forum, but what do you mean by cultural marxists? The definition seems to range from "a secret cabal of globalists" to "people who think discrimination exists", so it's a bit ambiguous.

Well I meant it in the sense of dividing people by cultural / identity lines and using them to attack the foundations of our society, rather than the old bourgeoisie vs proletariat divides of the old marxism. Identity politics basically. Go woke go broke.

I identify as a unicorn with seventeen sexualities and fourteen genders, and I'm going to talk about my skin colour and all of the ways I've been oppressed by imaginary people for my whole life.

Embarking on identity politics is what I perhaps should I have said, to avoid the alt right connotations. 

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2 hours ago, Jim Smith said:

He’s not a Norwich player any more and the way he has jumped ship leaves a sour taste in the mouth. I hope his career flops from now on to be honest. 

Yep... but your gonna get grief again. Remember its not like a proper professional football club like it use to be, we want to be St Pauli or Auxerre or a crafy beer type business, we don't want to dream about competing with Leicester or Villa..and remember there is NO ONE out there interested in investment in us.. we are unique.

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Well anyway this time next year all will have been revealed......

If we have survived in the Premiership and finish above Villa I'll absolutely laugh my todger off.....If we narrowly stay up by a cat's whisker? I'll probably just breathe a huge sigh of relief.....BUT if we flounder and struggle like the last time we played in the top-flight and without a whimper have again been unceremoniously relegated?....

Then it's straight down to the local hardware store to purchase a pitchfork (but for health and safety reasons I will put corks on them lethal pointy prongs).....I'll manufacture some protest placards using biodegradable materials whilst also using non-toxic and lead free paint to write 'Sack the Board,' 'We lack ambition,' 'Webber Out!' 'Where's the money gone?'.....and various other anti club slogans....

Please note that there will be no solid fuel flaming torches allowed. They're just a blatant fire risk and really not that good for the environment..... 

I'll then organise a massive protest outside of the stadium.....

Anyway if pigs might fly or due to some freakishness of football and in the unlikely event that we actually do finish above Villa?.....

Does anyone know roughly how much it is for a 'John Bobbitt' type constructive surgery to stitch a willy back on?....

(It fortunately won't require much surgical thread).....

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3 hours ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

Well that's just narrow minded thinking isn't it.

I hope he gets an £80m move to Real Madrid within 18 months, we get a big sell on fee, and it sends a message to footballers world wide that if you want to reach the top of the game then you should come to the famous Colney finishing school. 

Because that is why talented young players (like Oliver Skipp) want tp come to Norwich, because they've seen the likes of James Maddison, Max Aarons, Ben Godfrey et al develop into quality players.

Did you have a similar level of anomosity towards Ben Godfrey?

No, but I did smile when he almost scored an own goal with his first touch in an England shirt.

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2 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

Well I meant it in the sense of dividing people by cultural / identity lines and using them to attack the foundations of our society, rather than the old bourgeoisie vs proletariat divides of the old marxism. Identity politics basically. Go woke go broke.

I identify as a unicorn with seventeen sexualities. 

Righto. Well, as a socialist I'd argue that it's important to acknowledge how xenophobia (for example) has been used as a tool to maintain wealth and power structures, and prop up the capitalist system.

I don't see any issue with self-identification of gender/sexuality if it means that people can live a happier and more fulfilling life. Note that this doesn't extend to race, mythical animals or attack helicopters, despite the many many witty "anti-woke" comments on the subject.

Something we can agree on, at least, is that the Guardian is a flawed publication. You can attack it from the right while I attack it from the left, Buendia (ouch) & Cantwell style - there, I've steered it back to NCFC!

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35 minutes ago, Bort said:

Righto. Well, as a socialist I'd argue that it's important to acknowledge how xenophobia (for example) has been used as a tool to maintain wealth and power structures, and prop up the capitalist system.

Attack marriage as an institution and you find that children grow up deprived and feral in single parent households, you also find that if everybody wants a home to themselves you end up with a housing crisis. There are 30 million homes, not 66 million.

Attack religious traditions and turn the country into a secular one and you'll find that people don't know where to find their moral code, so they attack each other with machetes in urban centres.

There is far more about the kingdom of wokedom which goes way beyond race or heritage. Puberty blockers will be the biggest scandal of our century, should the NHS be for this? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-55369784

I'm afraid if you are a Labour party member then we will never be on the same page. I can't support a party which provided a safe haven for the Peadophile Information exchange, just a few years ago still had MPs who had supported the age of consent dropping to 10, and who willfully covered up and suppressed grooming gang investigations across the country so as to not antagonise a chunk of their voter base. That's before we mention voting against needing a UN security resolution to embark on illegal wars which have killed millions of innocent people, on the strength of evidence doctored by Labour politicians, destabilising an entire region and giving birth to extremist groups like ISIS which now find their way onto our shores.

That's on Labour, a bunch of peadophile-friendly war mongerers, murderers and terrorist sympathisers. We won't get along I'm afraid, as you'll want to talk about Matt Hancock dishing out a few dodgy contracts,, Boris Johnnson's wallpaper and Dominic Cummings testing his eyesight, like they are in any way comparable with the deep embedded psychopathy in your party full of sicko's. 

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5 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

Attack marriage as an institution and you find that children grow up deprived and feral in single parent households, you also find that if everybody wants a home to themselves you end up with a housing crisis. There are 30 million homes, not 66 million.

Attack religious traditions and turn the country into a secular one and you'll find that people don't know where to find their moral code, so they attack each other with machetes in urban centres.

There is far more about the kingdom of wokedom which goes way beyond race or heritage. Puberty blockers will be the biggest scandal of our century, should the NHS be for this? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-55369784

I'm afraid if you are a Labour party member then we will never be on the same page. I can't support a party which provided a safe haven for the Peadophile Information exchange, just a few years ago still had MPs who had supported the age of consent dropping to 10, and who willfully covered up and suppressed grooming gang investigations across the country so as to not antagonise a chunk of their voter base. That's before we mention voting against needing a UN security resolution to embark on illegal wars which have killed millions of innocent people, on the strength of evidence doctored by Labour politicians, destabilising an entire region and giving birth to extremist groups like ISIS which now find their way onto our shores.

That's on Labour, a bunch of peadophile-friendly war mongerers, murderers and terrorist sympathisers. We won't get along I'm afraid, as you'll want to talk about Matt Hancock dishing out a few dodgy contracts,, Boris Johnnson's wallpaper and Dominic Cummings testing his eyesight, like they are in any way comparable with the deep embedded psychopathy in your party full of sicko's. 

Even if your huge generalisation about marriage were true, I'd say it's healthier for a child to grow up in a loving single-parent family than be stuck in the middle of a dysfunctional relationship which is only sustained to honour an "institution". Besides, I think you'll find that socialist policies aim to lift children out of poverty, along with everyone else.

Who's saying that a separate home needs to be built for every single individual in the UK? Strange comment. Just stop capitalists buying up houses they don't use, and that'll go a long way to helping the situation.

Puberty blockers delay puberty, not stop it entirely, meaning their effects are reversible - before they were recognised as useful for children who may be trans, they had other applications, e.g. children who had complications with menstruation. I don't remember the uproar then.

Plenty of criticisms of the Labour party which I can agree with there - I'm allied to my principles, not any political party, and Tony Blair's / Keir Starmer's Labour are definitely not socialist, despite what you may think.

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Kids growing up in single-parent households are nowhere near as hamstrung as much of the pro-marriage research suggests. Moreover, not much of it can be traced down to marriage either.

Most of that research suffers from either the correlation/causation fallacy, and if that doesn't get you, then the Texas sharpshooter does. It's well known that divorce is extremely wearing on both parties, but children in unhappily married partnerships hardly do that well either, yet it is not possible to take that into account in studies. On top of that, marriage is heavily favoured in tax terms in practically every single OECD country so saying marriage is a benefit fails to take that into consideration either.

If you've not heard of Bella DePaulo, she's done a lot of research debunking this, or at least showing where the claims are massively exaggerated.

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