PurpleCanary 5,558 Posted August 22, 2021 35 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: That sounds unequivocal - any ideas who we might end up with? I believe Webber willl have learned from the mistake of a previous CEO. And I suspect, which is related to that belief, Jpootz may be right to think we will be willing to spend more than we had intended on these last two targets. In all the threads and posts I don't know whether this point has been made, but these are the fixtures the other four teams on zero points have had: Wolves: Spurs and Leicester. Burnley: Liverpool and Brighton. Newcastle: Villa and West Ham. Arsenal: Chelsea and Brentford. Compare with Liverpool and Man City... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,657 Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) I don’t disagree - I think they’ll try to eke out what they can for the transfers, hopefully sooner (this week) rather than later. As long as they feel we have what we need, that’s the main thing. It’s a bit mad that many of us are seeing Leicester as a ‘good chance to win’ - they are quite rightly are up there in the top 5 nowadays, it will not be easy. But following Liverpool and Man City anything is ‘easier’! Edited August 22, 2021 by Branston Pickle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,558 Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: I don’t disagree - I think they’ll try to eke out what they can for the transfers, hopefully sooner (this week) rather than later. As long as they feel we have what we need, that’s the main thing. It’s a bit mad that many of us are seeing Leicester as a ‘good chance to win’ - they are quite rightly are up there in the top 5 nowadays, it will not be easy. But following Liverpool and Man City anything is ‘easier’! Just to add, without going through all the various changes, it is clear that since the end of last season the priorities Webber and Farke had initially formulated have shifted during the course of this transfer window. The need or otherwise for a striker potentially to replace Pukki being one. And now, I suspect, a defensive central midfielder has risen to the top of the list. Edited August 22, 2021 by PurpleCanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk Dan 308 Posted August 23, 2021 We have to simply find that DCM who can break up the play and release our forwards. Can anyone create a list from Football Manager to help the board!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk Dan 308 Posted August 23, 2021 Andras Schafer is my choice for DCM signing. I called him out in the Euros thread... Risky, oh yes, but that's the way we have to do it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bovril 219 Posted August 23, 2021 Brandon Williams completed medical on Sunday. Set to be formally completed today. In squad for tomorrow’s game against Bournemouth. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted August 23, 2021 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12388578/brandon-williams-manchester-united-left-back-closing-in-on-loan-move-to-norwich-city Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,717 Posted August 23, 2021 When we thinking Brandon's gonna be announced? 5PM? 6PM? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,234 Posted August 23, 2021 We'll see what happens at the end of the window and who plays against Leicester, but some might think it odd that we buy a left back and then replace him with a loanee after just two games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,075 Posted August 23, 2021 14 hours ago, PurpleCanary said: Just to add, without going through all the various changes, it is clear that since the end of last season the priorities Webber and Farke had initially formulated have shifted during the course of this transfer window. The need or otherwise for a striker potentially to replace Pukki being one. And now, I suspect, a defensive central midfielder has risen to the top of the list. A defensive midfielder was surely at the top of the list from the moment the season ended? I cannot believe they did not consider it essential from the end of the season. It was, is and will remain the most obvious deficiency in our team until it is sorted. I do not blame them that "one" is not in yet, we need to make sure it is the right "one". However, if it was not a top priority from the start, I entirely blame them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,558 Posted August 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Badger said: FAKE NEWS!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fr. Chewy Louie 137 Posted August 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, All the Germans said: A defensive midfielder was surely at the top of the list from the moment the season ended? I cannot believe they did not consider it essential from the end of the season. It was, is and will remain the most obvious deficiency in our team until it is sorted. I do not blame them that "one" is not in yet, we need to make sure it is the right "one". However, if it was not a top priority from the start, I entirely blame them. Presumably they were optimistic about Skipp returning, so didn't want to commit elsewhere while that was still a possibility. We'll find out soon how damaging that will turn out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobLoz3 492 Posted August 23, 2021 I think they will try and sign another midfielder but I don't know if it'll be the defensive one we all desire. They have been definitely interested in Billing and also Normann, it seems. Neither of which are out and out defensive players. I am finding it a bit weird because Gilmour is playing the deepest at the moment and I really don't think that's where we'd see the best out of him. I imagine it's difficult to find a specialist in the DM position for the money we can throw at it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobLoz3 492 Posted August 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, Fr. Chewy Louie said: Presumably they were optimistic about Skipp returning, so didn't want to commit elsewhere while that was still a possibility. We'll find out soon how damaging that will turn out. Probs correct. What a shame about Skipp not coming back eh. But he ain't our player and we should always have had contingency plans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted August 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, Fr. Chewy Louie said: Presumably they were optimistic about Skipp returning, so didn't want to commit elsewhere while that was still a possibility. We'll find out soon how damaging that will turn out. I doubt they put all their eggs in the Skipp basket as it was pretty clear early in the window he wasn't coming back. Webber talked about patience in the window and that relates to the new midfielder, better to get an excellent player for 35 games than an average one for 38 games. The club have obviously been in for a few but found it hard to get acceptable terms - will be interesting to see who they eventually land. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,717 Posted August 23, 2021 29 minutes ago, Badger said: I know we are bottom of that but the fact we in the top ten biggest spenders AND having spent 60 million seems so bizarre after having got used to this club all my life only ever spending peanuts.. Still doubt it will be enough to stop the 'we have no ambition stonking rich owners in we never spend money' brigade sadly.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted August 23, 2021 Just now, cambridgeshire canary said: I know we are bottom of that but the fact we in the top ten biggest spenders AND having spent 60 million seems so bizarre after having got used to this club all my life only ever spending peanuts.. Still doubt it will be enough to stop the 'we have no ambition stonking rich owners in we never spend money' brigade sadly.. I guess the argument will be 'but what about net spend?' - and they would have a point on that front. What these charts don't show though must be the huge jump in wages the club is paying on player salaries. Will be interesting to see how much of turnover has gone on wages at the end of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Coneys boots 1,400 Posted August 23, 2021 1 minute ago, cambridgeshire canary said: I know we are bottom of that but the fact we in the top ten biggest spenders AND having spent 60 million seems so bizarre after having got used to this club all my life only ever spending peanuts.. Still doubt it will be enough to stop the 'we have no ambition stonking rich owners in we never spend money' brigade sadly.. It’s smoke and mirrors though isn’t it? To get a real indication of ambition we must offset the claimed ‘spend’ against take. So let us first minus from that £60m - £35m income for Buendia- not many clubs sell their star player. We must then accept that Gianoulis and Gibson were actually purchased with last season’s money and that this was available because we also spent next to nothing last time we were promoted. So, yes, good to see us starting to open the purse strings a bit - but over the last three or four years - and compared to most other promoted teams- the approach has actually been quite careful/miserly - such is the need with the self funding model. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WSM 62 Posted August 23, 2021 The same journalist that shared the Normann update also tweeted that Watford had Normann as their number 1 signing but he became too expensive (Norwich aren't willing to spend money I thought?), Sevilla also priced out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,234 Posted August 23, 2021 25 minutes ago, Cantiaci Canary said: Good, he's not what we want right now. He seems more of a competition for Lees-Melou. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cantiaci Canary 557 Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) Can't see a deal for Normann being likely. Sounds like he doesn't want to be tied to the club if we get relegated and Rostov (understandably) are only willing to let him leave this window on loan if we pay the big bucks at the end of the season regardless of where we finish! On to plan C? Edited August 23, 2021 by Cantiaci Canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WSM 62 Posted August 23, 2021 The same journalist that shared the Normann update also tweeted that Watford had Normann as their number 1 signing but he became too expensive (Norwich aren't willing to spend money I thought?), Sevilla also priced out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk Dan 308 Posted August 23, 2021 I'm wondering this..... We are able to spot talent, nurture it, and sell... Take existing talent like Godfrey do above but also spot where they best can play.. so from the Mid to CB. Are we about to see this in Brandon Williams and he slots into a DCM role....? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WSM 62 Posted August 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said: Good, he's not what we want right now. He seems more of a competition for Lees-Melou. Expert on Russian football are we? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobLoz3 492 Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Cantiaci Canary said: Can't see a deal for Normann being likely. Sounds like he doesn't want to be tied to the club if we get relegated and Rostov (understandably) are only willing to let him leave this window on loan if we pay the big bucks at the end of the season regardless of where we finish! On to plan C? If you're willing to listen to some of the more negative posters, it's more like plan....errmmm... X. Why not eh? Edited August 23, 2021 by BobLoz3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted August 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, Norfolk Dan said: I'm wondering this..... We are able to spot talent, nurture it, and sell... Take existing talent like Godfrey do above but also spot where they best can play.. so from the Mid to CB. Are we about to see this in Brandon Williams and he slots into a DCM role....? Doubt it mate, Farke has I notice hinted that a fullback was top of the list and then CB and ‘holding midfielder’. So would hazard a guess that Williams is being signed to provide competition for the position he usually plays. But who knows, he might end up playing elsewhere if Farke decides to - though not sure what the deal is there, I would have thought Man Utd might not be too happy or would even allow us to try converting him into a different player entirely? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grumpy 122 Posted August 23, 2021 Having seen a couple of good videos on Youtube of Normann I do think he is a very good player but he is certainly not a defensive midfielder.A very good box to box player,probably a better option than Rupp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted August 23, 2021 29 minutes ago, Cantiaci Canary said: Can't see a deal for Normann being likely. Sounds like he doesn't want to be tied to the club if we get relegated and Rostov (understandably) are only willing to let him leave this window on loan if we pay the big bucks at the end of the season regardless of where we finish! On to plan C? Think you might be right there, Cantiaci - doubt we’ll keep haggling if we don’t feel it’s worth it or can change the situation anytime soon, time is money now as they say! ⏱ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites