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Sunday Times article re. Norwich City and my reply.

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Parachute payments are a reward for sporting competence, I honestly have no idea why fans of other teams have a problem with them. We get them because we got promoted. It's just an excuse for other clubs who are owned by rich a55holes who want to buy their way out of the league using money earned outside of football (Most often through inherited wealth, money laundering, tax evasion and the other standard seedy means that people become billionaires) who want to use their wealth to create an unfair disadvantage. We deserve our financial advantage because we've earned it through sporting success, other clubs are literally nothing without one mans wealth, they haven't done anything to earn their financial advantage except perhaps just happening to be in close proximity to London or getting into such dire straights that a buyer was able to purchase them relatively cheaply.

Screw them, we're pretty much the only successful club out there who is financed by sporting success. I honestly hope the bubble bursts and the rest are left in financial ruin when their owners pull out when they are resigned to being stuck in the Championship. I will never feel any empathy to another club, not one of them gave a rats **** about us when we were in 30m debt in League 1 so I honestly couldn't care less about the struggles of other clubs. 

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Important to remember parachute payments are very much a symptom of a wider issue and far from the cause,  which is actually the huge disparity in TV money between divisions and the wage inflation it creates.

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4 minutes ago, king canary said:

Important to remember parachute payments are very much a symptom of a wider issue and far from the cause,  which is actually the huge disparity in TV money between divisions and the wage inflation it creates.

Yeah agreed. 

The real issue is why aren't other teams getting more money not that a few yo yo clubs get a bit more. 

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3 hours ago, interwebme said:

Yeah agreed. 

The real issue is why aren't other teams getting more money not that a few yo yo clubs get a bit more. 

Well, partly true. The real issue is that those running the EPL and the EFL have no clue what they are doing. Parachute payments are a ludicrous reward for sporting failure, but they recognise the practical issue clubs face on relegation - an issue caused by the incompetence of the game's leaders.

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3 minutes ago, sgncfc said:

Well, partly true. The real issue is that those running the EPL and the EFL have no clue what they are doing. Parachute payments are a ludicrous reward for sporting failure, but they recognise the practical issue clubs face on relegation - an issue caused by the incompetence of the game's leaders.

Added the real issue is the over inflated wages and parasite agents who milk money out of the TV revenue. Gone are the days of most players wanting to play first team football, most would rather fester in the top 6 third team still earning more money than any of our first team! Till wage caps are put in place money will ruin football in the top division and is now giving the relegated teams the chance to bounce back quicker as the gap with parachute money is certainly growing. It’s definitely an advantage.

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The parachute payments are to offset the disparity between the premiership and the championship. Really the way to fix that is wage caps, perhaps premiership salaries capped at some multiple of the championship ones

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The journalist raised a legitimate concern, but unfortunately used precisely the wrong club as an example.

Norwich City could yo-yo endlessly without any parachute money, because Norwich is an exceptionally well run club. If Watford tried our model, it would be a well done club.

 

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So the line between the second tier clubs (that is not the bigoted six) now extends a bit into.the championship . Norwich wanted to become a top 26 club and have done so. Which makes City the role model for all middle ranking clubs who are not investment vehicles for the rich.

Applaud the fact that our club has won the moral argument . Look forward to the coming season and hope this is 1985 not 2016. As for parachute payments 😴😴😴

Probably got those dates wrong but you know what I mean.

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2 hours ago, Upo said:

The journalist raised a legitimate concern, but unfortunately used precisely the wrong club as an example.

Norwich City could yo-yo endlessly without any parachute money, because Norwich is an exceptionally well run club. If Watford tried our model, it would be a well done club.

 

We absolutely couldn't though.

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3 hours ago, king canary said:

We absolutely couldn't though.

We stand more of a chance of making it work than, well, any other club I can name.

Edit: TBF, maybe Brentford.

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The question should be 'why is it well run and managed clubs stand so little chance upon promotion to a Premier League which has a glass ceiling and clubs annually scraping by because the TV money inflates their size?' 

Norwich City had a model set up by Ed Balls, an operational ethos set up by Stuart Webber and a playing philosophy set up by Daniel Farke. This is merit. Developing and playing youth is merit. Rehabilitating good players is merit. Buying and adapting unknown foreign players is merit. 

And finally, a loyal supporter base which, if we had the capacity would far exceed 27k which stayed in place despite setbacks is a major difference to any number of sleeping giants you could name. 

Personally, I hate the EPL. But if you get promoted it is what you get. 

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...since we had no money and an ageing squad (seemingly in reverse) with no prospect of promotion, didn't we do what Barnsley have done two years ago.... only slightly better?   

.... parachute payments allow us to give contracts to players like Drmic and others that give promotion bonuses when they aren't involved.... 

she has a point about the system, it is flawed but that's the result of greed and football mis-management across the board, it's hardly appropriate to criticise us or West Brom or Fulham.  In fact, she could easily make an argument that we have bucked the trend of promotion and over-spend, foolishly perhaps, she used us as an example.    

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