YellaYellowYella 51 Posted May 1, 2021 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9532957/The-inside-story-Norwichs-return-big-time-details-not-dollars-matter.html Reveals that we almost had some money stopped due to ESL, the vegetable patch and more about the new training system coming in and plans to install swimming pools for injury recovery. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,089 Posted May 1, 2021 God knows, I loathe the Daily Mail - but that is a great article. Let’s hope some neutrals read it and get onboard, rather than repeat stupid comments like Bilic’s at the start of this season. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daly 500 Posted May 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Nuff Said said: God knows, I loathe the Daily Mail - but that is a great article. Let’s hope some neutrals read it and get onboard, rather than repeat stupid comments like Bilic’s at the start of this season. Great article from one of the top two newspapers in U.K. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark .Y. 351 Posted May 2, 2021 Great article..............written by Holty's Dad ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,060 Posted May 2, 2021 9 hours ago, Nuff Said said: God knows, I loathe the Daily Mail - but that is a great article. Let’s hope some neutrals read it and get onboard, rather than repeat stupid comments like Bilic’s at the start of this season. Oh yes, Bilic. What happened to him again?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,405 Posted May 2, 2021 8 hours ago, daly said: Great article from one of the top two newspapers in U.K. I'd like to think that this is satire but... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Upo 91 Posted May 2, 2021 The contrast between JPMorganite "ESL" yacht clubs and Norwich City couldn't be starker. We come out looking like the future. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,716 Posted May 2, 2021 33 minutes ago, Upo said: The contrast between JPMorganite "ESL" yacht clubs and Norwich City couldn't be starker. We come out looking like the future. There are a lot of people outraged at the extreme greed shown by the "elites" but were also wanting us to join in in the unsustainable spending frenzy when we went up last time. I am glad we have gone down this sensible, long term route and hope we can be an example to other clubs. Yes, we didn't get the results we had hoped for but we are in good health and much fitter to face the new season. 10 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duke63 541 Posted May 2, 2021 I think the Webber/farke/Smith NCFC model might well be the one to follow fo a lot of clubs going forward. The ESL clubs are not sustainable as they are and they either go off at some point and do their Greed and Avarice example or have to start living within their means. Meanwhile, the rest of the Premier League has to take into account that the ESL could still happen at some point which would make many, if not nearly all of them, on the brink of bankruptcy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mason 47 1,373 Posted May 2, 2021 I think the part of the story that doesn't get played is that it worked for us, but it isn't a guarantee. It's a very bold, long-term approach that many wouldn't have the balls to see through, and even then the chances of it working so thoroughly as it did for us are relatively slim. Personally, growing up as a Norwich fan, we've always been seen as the brightly coloured, slightly strange club from Norfolk- and if this is what embracing that is, I'm all for it. Happy to be the exception. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Upo 91 Posted May 2, 2021 57 minutes ago, Herman said: There are a lot of people outraged at the extreme greed shown by the "elites" but were also wanting us to join in in the unsustainable spending frenzy when we went up last time. I am glad we have gone down this sensible, long term route and hope we can be an example to other clubs. Yes, we didn't get the results we had hoped for but we are in good health and much fitter to face the new season. I 100% agree with the sentiment, although with a qualifier that there is a wide range of smart spending between £10M and £100M for a man like Webber. He's one of the smartest people working in football. We'll get the squad worth the opportunity this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Move Klose 303 Posted May 2, 2021 I suppose we were in a different position where luckily for us we had a player in there who we could sell for +£20m. Dont know where we wouldve been without that. We had foundations already in place where we had some youngsters who looked like they were going to the top. If you were a club and going to go with our model then you would need this in place to be successful in 1/2 years time instead of having to wait say 5 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Upo 91 Posted May 2, 2021 58 minutes ago, Mason 47 said: I think the part of the story that doesn't get played is that it worked for us, but it isn't a guarantee. It's a very bold, long-term approach that many wouldn't have the balls to see through, and even then the chances of it working so thoroughly as it did for us are relatively slim. Personally, growing up as a Norwich fan, we've always been seen as the brightly coloured, slightly strange club from Norfolk- and if this is what embracing that is, I'm all for it. Happy to be the exception. It's definitely not an off-the-shelf business model for football. Norwich City has strengths that are unique. Webber's genius is in adapting these strengths into a progressive organization; Fiscal sensibility with 21st century technology. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor Hockey's Beard 526 Posted May 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Badger said: I'd like to think that this is satire but... I've read the article and now I feel dirty - I need to go take a shower. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,332 Posted May 2, 2021 30 minutes ago, Trevor Hockey's Beard said: I've read the article and now I feel dirty - I need to go take a shower. A racist clock is right twice a day, I guess? 🤷♂️ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crafty Canary 495 Posted May 2, 2021 Poor lefties - how you numpties must pray for the publication of the Corbyn Clarion. Until then the Guardian or Observer will have to do as ar$e wipes in your loos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,287 Posted May 2, 2021 3 hours ago, canarydan23 said: Oh yes, Bilic. What happened to him again?! Indeed, a great topic for a "where are they now- one year later" article: Bilic, Chinese gulag league. Farke, English Premier League Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petriix 2,834 Posted May 2, 2021 29 minutes ago, Crafty Canary said: Poor lefties - how you numpties must pray for the publication of the Corbyn Clarion. Until then the Guardian or Observer will have to do as ar$e wipes in your loos. Us lefties lead more rewarding lives because we're part of something bigger and happier. Sorry that you find it hard to care about other people or see the bigger picture. Ironically, the Norwich City model is about as close to a left-wing model of running a football club as you will see. Progressive, sustainable, self-sufficient. A joy to behold. 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings of a Sparrow 1,410 Posted May 2, 2021 A good article - he said through gritted teeth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,388 Posted May 2, 2021 14 hours ago, Nuff Said said: God knows, I loathe the Daily Mail - but that is a great article. Let’s hope some neutrals read it and get onboard, rather than repeat stupid comments like Bilic’s at the start of this season. What is going on at that paper? They've got it in for BoJo big style (shame three years too late), now good analysis of what is happening at Norwich. Has the paper been sold? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,332 Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Crafty Canary said: Poor lefties - how you numpties must pray for the publication of the Corbyn Clarion. Until then the Guardian or Observer will have to do as ar$e wipes in your loos. Anyone with half a brain should be able to recognise what an utter shambles the DM is, regardless of political leanings (unless confirmation bias is your primary driver) Edited May 2, 2021 by kirku Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,089 Posted May 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, shefcanary said: What is going on at that paper? They've got it in for BoJo big style (shame three years too late), now good analysis of what is happening at Norwich. Has the paper been sold? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,501 Posted May 2, 2021 1 hour ago, shefcanary said: What is going on at that paper? They've got it in for BoJo big style (shame three years too late), now good analysis of what is happening at Norwich. Has the paper been sold? Editor changed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted May 2, 2021 Aside from the politics of the Daily Mail - I actually wasn't massively impressed with the article. The writer mentions the vegetable patch a few times, but doesn't explain the thinking behind it in any more detail than it is for 'sustainability'. Mentions the ESL more than the EFL and the whole thing feels like a copy and paste job from the well researched FT piece a few months back. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essex canary 492 Posted May 2, 2021 7 hours ago, Petriix said: Us lefties lead more rewarding lives because we're part of something bigger and happier. Sorry that you find it hard to care about other people or see the bigger picture. Ironically, the Norwich City model is about as close to a left-wing model of running a football club as you will see. Progressive, sustainable, self-sufficient. A joy to behold. Very left wing with the players earning about 100 times as much as the fans who must contribute more money through away membership etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petriix 2,834 Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, essex canary said: Very left wing with the players earning about 100 times as much as the fans who must contribute more money through away membership etc. We will have the lowest wage bill in the Premier League next year (perhaps unless Barnsley win the playoffs). And we'll be the only self-funding club. I'm not personally against someone earning a high wage if they're at the pinnacle of their profession. I would like to see them (and the big TV companies) paying more tax though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essex canary 492 Posted May 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, Petriix said: We will have the lowest wage bill in the Premier League next year (perhaps unless Barnsley win the playoffs). And we'll be the only self-funding club. I'm not personally against someone earning a high wage if they're at the pinnacle of their profession. I would like to see them (and the big TV companies) paying more tax though. Accept that we have to pay the wages to try to be competitive. The away member levy on the fans however makes it more expensive for them whilst having little impact on our ability to pay footballers. It is like a charge imposed by someone with a Rolls Royce lifestyle aimed at increasing bus fares. In principle no different to right wing Tories. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,554 Posted May 4, 2021 Strictly speaking I think Holt writes for the Mail on Sunday, which is fractionally less rabid than the daily version. But the real point, which seems to have got missed, is that this was Webber's way of introducing his successor for when he leaves at the end of next season - 'Dave the gardener'... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,580 Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, PurpleCanary said: Strictly speaking I think Holt writes for the Mail on Sunday, which is fractionally less rabid than the daily version. But the real point, which seems to have got missed, is that this was Webber's way of introducing his successor for when he leaves at the end of next season - 'Dave the gardener'... Well lets hope he's better than 'Dave the Striker' we had a few years ago... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenerationA47 747 Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) Best thing to come out of the mailmale since Buendia senior produced the goods back in 1996 Edited May 4, 2021 by GenerationA47 Spelling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites