Yellow Fever 3,746 Posted April 11, 2021 Any idea of the time changes yet ? That's what I call leaving people in the lurch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,867 Posted April 11, 2021 3 hours ago, lake district canary said: Bitter and twisted doesn't go half the way to describing how some people view the D of E. As always there are two sides to everything and those people who latch on to the bad things, fail to take into account the good things - his worth to the navy and his service in the war for one thing and the DofE awards scheme for another. The Duke was a mixed bag of good and bad, like most people - he was a product of his time and his birth and no-one can control the circumstances into which they are born. So he hunted, a normal part of the times he lived in as a well off toff - but he stopped once it was clear times were changing and it was seen as unacceptable. Culling deer is another thing - a necessity, but people find that difficult to accept. Alongside that he was a key member of the group that set up the World Wild Life Fund - so again there are two sides to it. Unless he did something illegal, then although you may not have liked some of the things he did, he should not be judged by today's standards on things he did 50 years or more years ago. As for his gaffs - or jokes as they were intended to be - they were quite funny by old standards - the slitty eyes thing on one level funny (if you are a certain age and can remember when you used to pull the corners of your eyes back and pretend to be chinese....for fun) on another level offensive....but then people are so easily offended these days..... What makes you think he stopped hunting? He didn't. What you fail to understand is that there are two sorts of people who kill animals. Those who do it because it's their job and it's necessary and those that do it purely for pleasure. The Duke was one of those sick individuals who did it for pleasure. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,424 Posted April 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Kathy said: So is our game going ahead then? I can’t see why our game would get changed ? 8pm ko should give plenty of time for the funeral ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,746 Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: What makes you think he stopped hunting? He didn't. What you fail to understand is that there are two sorts of people who kill animals. Those who do it because it's their job and it's necessary and those that do it purely for pleasure. The Duke was one of those sick individuals who did it for pleasure. I must admit grouse shooting seems a particularly barbaric 'sport' as in breeding and then hunting / killing for pleasure. I used to when young go fishing but frankly that also falls into the same category in a truly civilized society. Fox hunting is thankfully already banned. These comments by the way have zero to do with faming or fishing for food just respect for other creatures. Edited April 11, 2021 by Yellow Fever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted April 11, 2021 15 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: Jokes by definition are funny. Relax, chill @dylanisabaddog, it made me smile 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted April 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Graham Paddons Beard said: I can’t see why our game would get changed ? 8pm ko should give plenty of time for the funeral ? What about the wake? Pressed ham sandwiches and jugs of mild beer followed by a fight between William and Harry. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,332 Posted April 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: I think you need to look up the word 'parody' in your dictionary. Is that parody? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted April 11, 2021 1 minute ago, kirku said: Is that parody? Vanessa? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,332 Posted April 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, BigFish said: Relax, chill @dylanisabaddog, it made me smile This is a dead serious thread.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,332 Posted April 11, 2021 Just now, keelansgrandad said: Vanessa? Well, according to Dylan, it's definitely a taxi for me.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted April 11, 2021 3 hours ago, lake district canary said: Bitter and twisted doesn't go half the way to describing how some people view the D of E. As always there are two sides to everything and those people who latch on to the bad things, fail to take into account the good things - his worth to the navy and his service in the war for one thing and the DofE awards scheme for another. The Duke was a mixed bag of good and bad, like most people - he was a product of his time and his birth and no-one can control the circumstances into which they are born. So he hunted, a normal part of the times he lived in as a well off toff - but he stopped once it was clear times were changing and it was seen as unacceptable. Culling deer is another thing - a necessity, but people find that difficult to accept. Alongside that he was a key member of the group that set up the World Wild Life Fund - so again there are two sides to it. Unless he did something illegal, then although you may not have liked some of the things he did, he should not be judged by today's standards on things he did 50 years or more years ago. As for his gaffs - or jokes as they were intended to be - they were quite funny by old standards - the slitty eyes thing on one level funny (if you are a certain age and can remember when you used to pull the corners of your eyes back and pretend to be chinese....for fun) on another level offensive....but then people are so easily offended these days..... You miss the point. There is the man and there is the instituition he formed as DoE. All due sympathy to his family, and in truth we know very little as a fact about the man. But the instituition stinks, why should there be all this fuss, so much forced "respect" and uncalled for deferance. If the funeral was televised on BBC2, five minutes on the News and maybe another 1 hour documentary again on BBC2 would have been sufficient. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted April 11, 2021 We could have a touch of pathos, but apparently he didn't have any Greek in him. Unlike Maria Callas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,412 Posted April 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: What about the wake? Pressed ham sandwiches and jugs of mild beer followed by a fight between William and Harry. Will Harry be in fancy dress again?! 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,578 Posted April 11, 2021 40 minutes ago, Kathy said: Again, so is our game on then? I've not seen any confirmation but the initial press release suggested this only affected 3pm kick offs so our game should be untouched. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,412 Posted April 11, 2021 Pink un says our is not expected to be affected, as KC has said. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted April 11, 2021 18 minutes ago, kirku said: This is a dead serious thread.. No laughing on the message board until Phil the Greek is in the ground please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,867 Posted April 11, 2021 28 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said: I must admit grouse shooting seems a particularly barbaric 'sport' as in breeding and then hunting / killing for pleasure. I used to when young go fishing but frankly that also falls into the same category in a truly civilized society. Fox hunting is thankfully already banned. These comments by the way have zero to do with faming or fishing for food just respect for other creatures. I'm afraid that fox hunting is very much alive and kicking. Seek out 'Keep The Ban' on Facebook or Google Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crafty Canary 495 Posted April 11, 2021 46 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: What makes you think he stopped hunting? He didn't. What you fail to understand is that there are two sorts of people who kill animals. Those who do it because it's their job and it's necessary and those that do it purely for pleasure. The Duke was one of those sick individuals who did it for pleasure. From the animal’s perspective what is the difference between being killed by someone for sport and because it’s their job eg a slaughter man in an abbatoir? Are beef, lamb, pig and poultry farmers sick individuals rearing animals just so they can have them slaughtered in your view? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,060 Posted April 11, 2021 54 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: Jokes by definition are funny. I agree. But they're also not funny if you don't get them. Kirku repeated an oft-used retort of the ignorant right when addressing people who criticise traditionally British things; "I don't like those red phone boxes" "Why do you hate your country?!?!" "I don't like nonces, especially Royal ones" "Why do you hate your country?!?!" "Roast Dinners are overrated" Etc, etc. So it was a little bit of a rib tickler, but a joke can't reach the ribs from over one's head. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,332 Posted April 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, canarydan23 said: So it was a little bit of a rib tickler, but a joke can't reach the ribs from over one's head. Now we've got to the real meat of the matter, are roast dinners overrated? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,759 Posted April 11, 2021 Just now, kirku said: Now we've got to the real meat of the matter, are roast dinners overrated? Hope not, just about to tuck into one..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essex canary 491 Posted April 11, 2021 Interesting to note that the World Snooker Championship with its 33% indoor audience of 330 is due to start next Saturday. If only George Orwell had written 2021. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,332 Posted April 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said: Hope not, just about to tuck into one..... But did you cook it? I think that's the critical consideration Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted April 11, 2021 1 minute ago, kirku said: But did you cook it? I think that's the critical consideration It tastes much better if someone has cooked it for you.🍴🍽 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,424 Posted April 11, 2021 1 hour ago, keelansgrandad said: What about the wake? Pressed ham sandwiches and jugs of mild beer followed by a fight between William and Harry. “Alright , alright lads . We’ve all had a drink . This ain’t what grandad would have wanted ? . Now shake hands and we’ll hear no more of it “ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,332 Posted April 11, 2021 1 minute ago, keelansgrandad said: It tastes much better if someone has cooked it for you.🍴🍽 The effort vs reward just isn't there for me, if I'm the one in the hot seat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted April 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Graham Paddons Beard said: “Alright , alright lads . We’ve all had a drink . This ain’t what grandad would have wanted ? . Now shake hands and we’ll hear no more of it “ Edward hiding in one of the toilet cubicles🐈 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,412 Posted April 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: Edward hiding in one of the toilet cubicles🐈 Best keep quiet where Andrew is ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,759 Posted April 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, kirku said: But did you cook it? I think that's the critical consideration Yep I cooked it, but I didn't hunt the beast myself though..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,332 Posted April 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said: Yep I cooked it, but I didn't hunt the beast myself though..... Bon appetit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites