nevermind, neoliberalism has had it 159 Posted March 21, 2021 With people clambering to spend their money on a holiday again, hoping that they get a much talked about vaccine passport, not just a fancy stamp in their passport saying that they had this years jab, is it responsible for airlines, who's planes have not changed technically to exchange air in mid flight, to once again spread the latest mutations of covid by bringing it back from holiday. Covid was spread by thes airlines we have bailed out with billions to mothball these polluting machines, flying around the earth on heavily subsidised fuels. It was the business travellers and frequent fliers who'd done it for us, not that this would appear in a Sun headline, nothing else. And now that the 21.June looms in people's mind, many a billion spent in advance, flights booked without having any secure means to guarantee that only vaccinated people are chasing the sunlit hols of their dreams, what should those who are staying here and awaiting the return of freshly infected 'victims' of the darn EU/world resorts think about such foolish undertaking? We all have passports and get a small, UN-STAMPED AT THE SECOND JAB, card when we are vaccinated, so why go through the motions to very likely try and sell us another vaxID that will be faked and sold the moment it is issued. If airlines are able to check vaccination records, just names and completion, not address and or any other personal info, they would have the means to verify a completed vaccination and dates when it happened. Maybe that would be too complicated as there is NO national, only regional vaccination data collection. Since holidays are more important than pets to some, why else would they abandon them for a 2 week holiday, this issue should be one of much debate. Debate away..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,131 Posted March 21, 2021 Yes. It was before the pandemic, it is now and it will be in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark .Y. 351 Posted March 21, 2021 Soon find out, plenty of Germans heading to Spain for Easter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,423 Posted March 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, Mark .Y. said: Soon find out, plenty of Germans heading to Spain for Easter This worries me a lot! If Europe is to have another big wave we need to isolate ourselves from it. We’ve already sacrificed too much 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,325 Posted March 21, 2021 I would not want to spend hours sitting in a tin can breathing the recycled air of a bunch of strangers at this point in time 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark .Y. 351 Posted March 21, 2021 2 hours ago, The Real Buh said: This worries me a lot! If Europe is to have another big wave we need to isolate ourselves from it. We’ve already sacrificed too much Got to say it surprises me. Think it is annoying lots of the Spanish too as they are not allowed to move between the autonomous regions so the well off Madrilenos (etc) that have holiday homes on the coast can't use them but Germans can fly in to the region and holiday there. Seems strange to me.............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted March 21, 2021 In answer to the OP, Yes. And also confirms the insanity of those involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,181 Posted March 21, 2021 My boss flew out to Tenerife last week for a holiday When he gets back to the office I'll ask him what his experience at the airport and on the plane was Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nevermind, neoliberalism has had it 159 Posted March 22, 2021 19 hours ago, How I Wrote Elastic Man said: My boss flew out to Tenerife last week for a holiday When he gets back to the office I'll ask him what his experience at the airport and on the plane was He will first be isolating coming from Teneriffa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,181 Posted March 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, nevermind, neoliberalism has had it said: He will first be isolating coming from Teneriffa. Yes We are in Iceland. I think he has to test in Tenerife and present his certificate at the border back in Iceland. Then test again at the border, isolate for 5 days then take another test If all tests are negative, he can end quarantine 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Wundaboy 1,358 Posted March 22, 2021 Close the goddamn borders and get us back to normal. Anyone coming into the country has a 2 week mandatory isolation period at their own expense. Nobody "needs" a foreign holiday, people should stay in the UK and give our own tourism industry a massive boost. We don't need to be importing whatever horrendous new strains are breeding on the continent right now, if the EU can't get their house in order and get their populations vaccinated that's their issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duke63 541 Posted March 22, 2021 It should have all been done 12 months ago, its all a bit too late. Whilst i don't think anyone needs to travel in the current climate, at some point we have to test how well the vaccinations have worked and whether it is the answer. If it isn't then i doubt many airlines, travel companies, hotels and restautants, pubs...will exist this time next year if we have not returned to some sense of normailty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,281 Posted March 22, 2021 Is flying on holiday a danger to public health? It is if your name's Icarus..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites