cambridgeshire canary 6,716 Posted March 2, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56245184 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alex_ncfc 662 Posted March 2, 2021 Nothing surprises me about that article, disgusting behaviour from a grubby little club. "Academy highly regarded", hardly. And certainly not anymore! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellowrider120 762 Posted March 2, 2021 Well we have all long since joked that the place is a ...................'living hell' it appears that we may have been pretty much spot on! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,060 Posted March 2, 2021 It's pretty unforgivable that this can happen in this day and age. Given all the courses and training committee members and coaches at grassroots level have to go through, people operating at a professional level must have to go through even more and still situations like this arise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,431 Posted March 2, 2021 My experience of NCFC academy is the targeted work they put into players that are released - which even includes financial matters as well as the more obvious mental health issues . The vast majority of players don’t make it of course , so it shouldn’t come as a surprise to either party that contingency work has to be done . If someone told the lad to “man up” then they want shooting . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted March 2, 2021 Hmmm.... allegations of bullying of kids at Villa when Lambert was there as well. Culverhouse and Karsa were the fall guys, and yet no such complaints at King's Lynn and Culverhouse is clearly a good man manager otherwise he wouldn't have been successful there. Seems that it may be part of the 'culture' that Lambert brings to a club. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted March 2, 2021 58 minutes ago, alex_ncfc said: Nothing surprises me about that article, disgusting behaviour from a grubby little club. "Academy highly regarded", hardly. And certainly not anymore! Tom Adeyemi signed for Ipswich as a solid and established Championship midfielder, and then disappeared from the sport entirely. He's 29 ad hasn't played for three years. No social media or anything. What have they done to him? Broken him too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,605 Posted March 2, 2021 30 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Tom Adeyemi signed for Ipswich as a solid and established Championship midfielder, and then disappeared from the sport entirely. He's 29 ad hasn't played for three years. No social media or anything. What have they done to him? Broken him too? Didn't Adeyemi have an awful time with injuries? More like that was it rather than Ipswich in general. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgncfc 1,227 Posted March 2, 2021 2 hours ago, alex_ncfc said: Nothing surprises me about that article, disgusting behaviour from a grubby little club. "Academy highly regarded", hardly. And certainly not anymore! Well, it's probably highly regarded by themselves, if not by anybody else. I can't remember the last player of any note who came out of their academy - according to transfermkt no one memorable since Matt Clarke in 1996. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,218 Posted March 2, 2021 1 hour ago, king canary said: Didn't Adeyemi have an awful time with injuries? More like that was it rather than Ipswich in general. Yes, I believe he had issues with his ankles/achilles and it was too painful for him to play. I recall the manager at the time basically telling him to get on and live with it. It appears after he left at the expiry of his contract and hasn't played football since. A shame as he had a reasonably good career up until that point. If I remember rightly he was a pretty smart kid, so I hope he's gone on to make a decent career somewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duncan Edwards 2,235 Posted March 2, 2021 26 minutes ago, sgncfc said: Well, it's probably highly regarded by themselves, if not by anybody else. I can't remember the last player of any note who came out of their academy - according to transfermkt no one memorable since Matt Clarke in 1996. Darren Bent probably the last one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,669 Posted March 2, 2021 2 hours ago, king canary said: Didn't Adeyemi have an awful time with injuries? More like that was it rather than Ipswich in general. Dunno, have you spent much time in Ipswich? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,605 Posted March 2, 2021 1 hour ago, sgncfc said: Well, it's probably highly regarded by themselves, if not by anybody else. I can't remember the last player of any note who came out of their academy - according to transfermkt no one memorable since Matt Clarke in 1996. I believe Clarke was born in 1996 rather than coming through then. Jordan Rhodes and Jack Marriott are both Ipswich academy grads too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted March 2, 2021 3 hours ago, king canary said: Didn't Adeyemi have an awful time with injuries? More like that was it rather than Ipswich in general. "mysterious virus" was given as the cause at the time. A post on TWTD recently suggested that he'd retired from football to pursue academia and is now enrolled at university. But still odd about this "mysterious illness", sounds very much like he moved to Ipswich and very quickly fell out of love with the game! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted March 2, 2021 41 minutes ago, king canary said: I believe Clarke was born in 1996 rather than coming through then. Jordan Rhodes and Jack Marriott are both Ipswich academy grads too. Nick Pope is an Ipswich reject. Hilarious how they've discarded the likes of Rhodes, Marriott, Pope and Clarke, only for them to play well above Ipswich's current level. They do have a couple of good youngsters at the minute to be fair, Downes and Woolfendeen I'd expect to have good Championship careers at least. Nobody anywhere near Max Aarons or Todd Cantwell calibre. Shame Marcus Evans is selling up really, would have been nice to poach Woolfendeen while they were skint. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,820 Posted March 2, 2021 Tom Adeyemi apparently had the choice of a pro deal at Norwich or studying medicine at Cambridge, so it wouldn't surprise me if he simply decided that he has better long term prospects outside of football, especially considering his injuries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgncfc 1,227 Posted March 2, 2021 6 hours ago, king canary said: I believe Clarke was born in 1996 rather than coming through then. Jordan Rhodes and Jack Marriott are both Ipswich academy grads too. Oh OK, sorry, my bad. Still, not a lot in recent years though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,624 Posted March 2, 2021 Also the lesser spotted Conor Wickham... Still at Palace, I feel like he should be 47 but he's 27, 28 at the end of the month. Ryan Bennett was with them as well at one point during his youth development... A bit older but also Richard Wright. That said, you'd expect every club to be able to turn out players. So many of those we have mentioned were discarded quite readily. Few sold on went on to bigger and better things and I am not sure stealing a wage at Crystal Palace can count either tbh. We are lucky, our club has taken our youth system very seriously. A good supportive system not only makes better players, but gives good players a better chance of having a career in football. Folks often get wrapped up over those that are going to make the first team but often don't consider the ones that don't but still make it. In the Championship alone I think there is quite a few players. Could we make a squad of former Norwich Youth players playing in the Championship? GK: Rudd / Gunn RB: Aarons LB: Toffolo CB: CB: RW: Cantwell LW: Josh Murphy CM: Korey Smith CM: Mehmeti STR: Chris Martin STR: Morris That's about as much as I can do off the top of my head... A bit bare on CB's, I know Toffolo can play there, or at least did at youth level. Shackell is the only CB I can think of otherwise and he was last playing for Lincoln so not high enough a level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,605 Posted March 3, 2021 13 hours ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Nick Pope is an Ipswich reject. Hilarious how they've discarded the likes of Rhodes, Marriott, Pope and Clarke, only for them to play well above Ipswich's current level. They do have a couple of good youngsters at the minute to be fair, Downes and Woolfendeen I'd expect to have good Championship careers at least. Nobody anywhere near Max Aarons or Todd Cantwell calibre. Shame Marcus Evans is selling up really, would have been nice to poach Woolfendeen while they were skint. Yeah in recent years the most successful Ipswich academy grads have had to leave to make it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,605 Posted March 3, 2021 12 hours ago, chicken said: Also the lesser spotted Conor Wickham... Still at Palace, I feel like he should be 47 but he's 27, 28 at the end of the month. Ryan Bennett was with them as well at one point during his youth development... A bit older but also Richard Wright. That said, you'd expect every club to be able to turn out players. So many of those we have mentioned were discarded quite readily. Few sold on went on to bigger and better things and I am not sure stealing a wage at Crystal Palace can count either tbh. We are lucky, our club has taken our youth system very seriously. A good supportive system not only makes better players, but gives good players a better chance of having a career in football. Folks often get wrapped up over those that are going to make the first team but often don't consider the ones that don't but still make it. In the Championship alone I think there is quite a few players. Could we make a squad of former Norwich Youth players playing in the Championship? GK: Rudd / Gunn RB: Aarons LB: Toffolo CB: CB: RW: Cantwell LW: Josh Murphy CM: Korey Smith CM: Mehmeti STR: Chris Martin STR: Morris That's about as much as I can do off the top of my head... A bit bare on CB's, I know Toffolo can play there, or at least did at youth level. Shackell is the only CB I can think of otherwise and he was last playing for Lincoln so not high enough a level. I can't remember any youth team central defenders since Shackell - I don't really count Godfrey to be honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,218 Posted March 3, 2021 14 hours ago, chicken said: Also the lesser spotted Conor Wickham... Still at Palace, I feel like he should be 47 but he's 27, 28 at the end of the month. Ryan Bennett was with them as well at one point during his youth development... A bit older but also Richard Wright. That said, you'd expect every club to be able to turn out players. So many of those we have mentioned were discarded quite readily. Few sold on went on to bigger and better things and I am not sure stealing a wage at Crystal Palace can count either tbh. We are lucky, our club has taken our youth system very seriously. A good supportive system not only makes better players, but gives good players a better chance of having a career in football. Folks often get wrapped up over those that are going to make the first team but often don't consider the ones that don't but still make it. In the Championship alone I think there is quite a few players. Could we make a squad of former Norwich Youth players playing in the Championship? GK: Rudd / Gunn RB: Aarons LB: Toffolo CB: CB: RW: Cantwell LW: Josh Murphy CM: Korey Smith CM: Mehmeti STR: Chris Martin STR: Morris That's about as much as I can do off the top of my head... A bit bare on CB's, I know Toffolo can play there, or at least did at youth level. Shackell is the only CB I can think of otherwise and he was last playing for Lincoln so not high enough a level. Most of our young CB's haven't made the grade, Godfrey was intended to be a DM/CM. A few of our CB's from the FA Youth cup win; Cameron Norman (Walsall - league 2) Ben Wyatt (Sutton united) Kyle McFadden (Kings Lynn) Struggling to think of any others, certainly can't recall any getting close to the first team, think we've sold a few/released players that didn't progress that far Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,624 Posted March 3, 2021 Yeah, if we added premier league we could at least add Godfrey there and drop Mehmeti for Jacob Murphy, slide Toffolo to CB and add Lewis to LB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,075 Posted March 3, 2021 Let's not get all high and mighty. Football is a harsh sport for all youngsters. I was in the City Academy (over) 20 years ago and I entirely fell out of love of football and I was made to feel inferior because I was only 6 foot tall (as a goalkeeper). That's life, it happens up and down the country in every club. Toughen up and move on. We are not better than them (I mean, we are clearly better than them but not in this respect). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,716 Posted March 3, 2021 28 minutes ago, All the Germans said: Let's not get all high and mighty. Football is a harsh sport for all youngsters. I was in the City Academy (over) 20 years ago and I entirely fell out of love of football and I was made to feel inferior because I was only 6 foot tall (as a goalkeeper). That's life, it happens up and down the country in every club. Toughen up and move on. We are not better than them (I mean, we are clearly better than them but not in this respect). 'We are not better than them' I dunno about that one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites