Jump to content
kick it off

FT NCFC article - Delia, Webber and Soccerbot

Recommended Posts

https://www.ft.com/content/2334c941-a1ab-48ce-b4fd-6747710c8054?accessToken=zwAAAXea-lEAkc8jNMlBoatIztO0_WdHcQyAVA.MEUCIQDljmUnVXnkDIzyi4-htyM_cC3Qa08iqlvbd20W14rf_QIgda_Zq1nTXAEoH0GD92LFJJjNK96-B4Q9d-BwNXq_ABA&sharetype=gift?token=e3c58c68-fa2e-4778-8208-32d1d7701352

Brill article with loads of interviews with Todd, Webber, Delia and Farke.

Firstly, a really refreshing piece of journalism that has really tried to get under the skin of what Norwich is. Little hyperbole, just a deep dive into what we're about.

Secondly, we're the first club in the country to get a £750,000 "soccerbot" simulation - will be installed at Colney and is composed of loads of video screens surrounding a small pitch to simulate match experience.

Thirdly, this quoted exchange from the Forest match when we were 1-0 up.... "There is no lack of passion on the Norwich City side. In the second half and already a goal ahead, midfielder Emiliano Buendía concedes a free kick. “Why did you foul him?” shouts Farke. “It wasn’t a ****ing foul!” retorts Buendía. “**** off!” screams Farke. "

Edited by kick it off
  • Thanks 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, kick it off said:

This is the Soccerbot that we're bringing in.

 

Would be great fun to have a go in that 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
50 minutes ago, interwebme said:

Urgh pay wall. Could someone supply the words? 

No paywall when I was on my laptop but there is on the mobile. Is this normal?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Brilliant and well written article about us (which is very unusual!).

Farker, Webber, Delia and Cantwell all come across really well in it.

should get all the players to read it before going out to play today.

Made me feel very proud of our club #otbc

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


 The Infinite Game
FT Magazine Norwich City Football Club Norwich City and the battle of football’s haves and have-nots Delia Smith’s ‘yo-yo club’ is playing the long game in a bid to compete with super-rich rivals

At just 22, Todd Cantwell already has a head full of memories. A star midfielder at Norwich City, the football club he joined as a local lad more than a decade ago, he has emerged in recent years as one of the English game’s brighter talents. Slouched on a chair at the team’s training ground, Cantwell sits up when asked to name some of his standout moments to date. The recollections flow easily. In September 2019, for example, Norwich City faced Manchester City at their Carrow Road stadium. It should have been a mismatch. A team newly promoted to the Premier League, the world’s richest football competition, against the most expensively assembled side on earth. In the 28th minute, Cantwell watched his teammates complete a slick sequence of passes around those in City shirts. The ball landed at the feet of striker Teemu Pukki, who charged at goal. Cantwell began to run up the pitch. “It was a 50-yard sprint,” he tells me, blue eyes sparkling. “I was just energised by the thought of scoring, and in football that adrenaline takes over. I knew that if I got in his eye line, I knew Teemu would see me . . . to see the ball slide across and see the open net, you dream of stuff like that.” Cantwell scored, then danced in front of thousands of jubilant fans dressed in the team’s yellow and green colours. Norwich City went on to complete a famous 3-2 victory. I ask him to fast-forward to July 2020. Carrow Road had been emptied of supporters because of the Covid-19 pandemic. Few witnessed the team being thrashed 4-0 by West Ham United. It was the latest of many defeats in a gruelling season. Norwich City were relegated to the division below. Cantwell sat alone on the pitch long after the final whistle, frustrated, hurt. “We may not have been expected to stay up, no one here wanted to go down,” he says, quietly. “Everyone wants to play in the best league in the world.” Todd Cantwell Todd Cantwell scores against Manchester City early last season: ‘You dream of stuff like that’ © Getty Images These flashbacks help explain what makes elite football such a potent spectacle for millions around the world. Over 90 minutes, Norwich City, a side assembled on a shoestring player transfer budget, can beat Manchester City, bankrolled by an oil-rich Gulf state and, at the time, English champions. But over the course of a 38-match season, small miracles are consumed by cold facts. Academic research has shown the amount spent on player salaries is the best indicator of league position. Last season, Norwich City had the second-lowest wage bill in the top tier. I have come to Norwich City to speak with players such as Cantwell, as well as the club’s owners, executives and coaches, to better understand how the sport became a tale of haves versus have-nots. And to ask whether there is anything that can be done to close the gap between the game’s one-percenters and the rest. Never a big club, Norwich City hadn’t even played in the top flight of English football until 50 years ago. But through the 1970s and 1980s they established a seat at the top table, peaking in the early 1990s, when the “Canaries” beat Germany’s most successful club, Bayern Munich, in a famous European upset. Since the turn of the century, however, Norwich have enjoyed five promotions and suffered five relegations between the divisions. Too lean for the big league, too fat for the lower tiers, they are part of a group dismissively referred to as “yo-yo clubs”. Beating Bayern Munich in the second round of the UEFA Cup in 1993 Beating Bayern Munich, Germany’s most successful club, in the second round of the Uefa Cup in 1993 — a famous European upset © EMPICS Sport/PA Manchester City used to be one too, before a 2008 takeover by an Emirati sheikh turned them into regular title winners through spending more than £1bn on players. Takeovers like this have given fans of other clubs hopes of attracting their own sugar daddy, an extravagant billionaire willing to spend whatever it takes to acquire glory. Teams such as Chelsea and Leicester City are among the sides to have been transformed in recent years by the backing of benevolent benefactors. Yet this has helped to create instability at less wealthy clubs like Norwich City, which have had an unfortunate history of overspending on players, all in a forlorn effort to keep up with opponents’ unmatchable financial resources. Can the club do anything to snap the elastic that led it to bounce between the leagues? Over many hours of interviews, I am told of a new blueprint to avoid the club’s boom-and-bust cycles. It is a plan designed around unearthing more talents like Cantwell. The club’s ambition is simple yet strikingly sober: to become strong enough to avoid yet another relegation from the Premier League, should they return. That would allow them to play Manchester City every season, though they would be extremely unlikely to challenge them for the sport’s greatest prizes. Celebrating a win over Sunderland in the 1985 League Cup final Norwich players celebrate victory in the League Cup final at Wembley in 1985, when they became the first club to win a major trophy and suffer relegation in the same season © David Cannon/Allsport/Getty Images Is this enough? Many of today’s leading football clubs began as community institutions — Norwich City was formed in 1902 by two schoolmasters — each one as good as the locals who made up their teams. Over decades, the biggest have morphed into multibillion-pound businesses, international workforces and global fanbases. But the majority, like Norwich City, are still followed mainly in the smaller cities and towns in which they are based. Here, supporting a football club is part of a civic identity. The team’s successes — and failure — are a matter of personal esteem. “There’s part of me that just wants the club to go hell for leather, spend loads and win things,” says a consultant who has worked for Norwich City but declined to be named. The assumption here is that winning matches is the driving purpose of football clubs, victories the way it pays back fervent support. “How does football stay relevant to these small communities otherwise?” asks the consultant. “[Norwich City] has a great model and lots of good people, but the question I have is, what’s the purpose? What’s the point of a football club anyway?” Delia Smith is the doyenne of celebrity chefs, a fixture on British television since the 1970s with shows such as One Is Fun! and How to Cheat at Cooking. Despite retiring from the small screen in 2013, Smith, now 79, is still best known to the wider British public as a genial TV personality and cookbook writer, rather than the co-owner of Norwich City alongside her husband, the writer and publisher Michael Wynn-Jones. Delia Smith Delia Smith, doyenne of British celebrity chefs. . .  © Daniel Castro Garcia Michael Wynn-Jones  . . . and her husband, writer and publisher Michael Wynn-Jones. The couple have co-owned the club since the 1990s © Daniel Castro Garcia In 1995, Smith, who describes herself as a life-long fan, was approached by Norwich City’s directors at a time when the club was at risk of going bust. “‘Can you give us £500,000 for a seat on the board?’ they asked me,” she recalls. “I said, ‘Well, you can have a million pounds if you have [Wynn-Jones] on the board as well.’ That’s how it happened.” The couple entered the sport just as it was undergoing a revolution. Norwich City were a founder member of the Premier League in 1992, when the country’s top sides launched a breakaway from the rest of English club football, setting up a competition funded by Sky, then a new satellite broadcaster. “A small group of very canny, greedy chairmen hived themselves off and got the whole lot and left the rest of football struggling at grassroots level,” says Smith. “It was a sad day for football.” Overall revenues for Premier League clubs rose from £120m in 1992 to £5bn last season, according to the consultancy Deloitte. In that period, Norwich City’s annual revenue has risen from £4.6m to £119m, according to Companies House records. But it remains far behind England’s richest club, Manchester United, which made £627m last term. Most of the cash sloshing through the game is used to finance huge transfer deals and mega-wages for football’s superstars. “Player salaries basically got out of hand,” says Wynn-Jones, a gentle man who speaks barely above a whisper. “That really triggered [takeovers by] sheikhs and the like, because the clubs needed them.” Smith and Wynn-Jones are among the longest-serving club owners in English football, part of the old guard of supporters-turned-owners who seek emotional returns on their investment over financial ones. Elsewhere these have been replaced by an international cadre of club owners united by net worths — from Arab royals to Russian oligarchs, American moguls to Chinese entrepreneurs. Football is such an important thing for the nation. It’s one of the last vestiges of real community Delia Smith, co-owner Several “odd people” have approached Smith about a potential takeover of Norwich City over the years. One investor offered a nominal £1 to take a previously lossmaking club “off our hands”, she says. Another suitor planned to put it into administration to settle debts and cut costs. None was deemed to have the club’s best interests at heart. Smith and Wynn-Jones’s refusal to sell splits opinion among the local fan base. Some believe that, without heftier external funding, the club is being sold short. “You have an awful lot of Norwich fans who absolutely love Delia to death,” says Robin Sainty, chair of the Canaries Trust, a supporters group. “A small minority of people absolutely detest her, who think we should be selling out to an Arab multibillionaire or whatever. Then there are quite a lot in the middle who . . . appreciate what she’s done but think it would be quite nice to be a rich club.” Smith is aware of the strength of feeling. “One guy came up to me [and said], ‘You have dragged our club into the gutter, and would you mind going?’” However, she adds: “Football is such an important thing for the nation. It’s one of the last vestiges of real community where people really belong together. If you see kids at football matches, letting off steam, they’re not out in the streets . . . It’s really wonderful.” Smith and Wynn-Jones see their role as maintaining a local institution that has survived, just about, for more than a century. The club has often had “sticky moments” that have required Smith to go “up to Carrow Road with a cheque sometimes, because it’s got so bad”, and money remains a problem. In 2016, they overspent on players, again, in an effort to stay in the ­Premier League. They were relegated, again. That was the final straw. The owners espoused a new mantra of self-sufficiency, to live within meagre means. But how could Norwich City then fund a return to the Premier League? On a foggy December morning, I drive to the club’s training ground, hidden off a country road on the outskirts of the city. A year ago, the venue was made up of 49 Portakabins alongside a sloped pitch, which became waterlogged on one side during the winter. Gym equipment was housed in a conservatory with room for just four players at a time. Today, as part of an ongoing renovation, with £8m spent to date, there are swish buildings with wood-and-glass facades that evoke a posh barn renovation, as well as flat, manicured lawns for pitches. I’m greeted by Stuart Webber, the club’s sporting director. As he takes me on a tour, the 37-year-old Welshman greets staffers planting herb gardens and rose bushes. “Without going sort of spiritual or whatever,” says Webber, a man with intense eyes and a tell-it-as-it-is manner, “people feel good when they have colour and freshness around them.” Stuart Webber, sporting director Norwich FC’s sporting director Stuart Webber  © Daniel Castro Garcia Zoe Ward, business and project director  Business and project director Zoe Ward © Daniel Castro Garcia Webber was introduced to Norwich City’s owners by his wife, Zoe Ward, the club’s business and project director, who was hired in 2015 to help tackle the club’s financial troubles. He began his career as a youth coach at Wrexham, before moving to bigger clubs including Liverpool (where he met Ward in 2010). Appointed head of football operations at Huddersfield Town in 2015, he helped guide them to the top tier for the first time since 1972. In 2017 Norwich City’s owners hired Webber. Alongside Ward, he recommended upgrading training facilities rather than spending more on players. This explains why the club is acquiring a futuristic new machine: the SoccerBot360. Created in Germany, it allows players to control a ball on a small turf pitch, surrounded by a wall of video screens that replicate the sensation of having a blur of teammates and opponents around them. In any match, players are forced to make hundreds of snap decisions about when and where to pass and shoot. The idea is they will make faster and better decisions in a real game if they have already seen it thousands of times within the SoccerBot. Set to be built next year at the training ground at a cost of around £750,000, the facility will be the first of its kind in England. Recommended Life & Arts Simon Kuper on why football matters However, if the goal is to reach the Premier League next season, surely the club needs to spend on players who could advance the team right away, rather than many years in the future? To answer, Webber refers to a book by British-American organisational guru Simon Sinek, The Infinite Game. Relying on research based on mathematical game theory, the writer suggests that in any competition there are two types of “game”. Some are “finite”, like a football match, where there are “known players, defined rules, and an agreed upon objective”. The team that scores most goals over 90 minutes wins. But there are also “infinite games”, where the players and rules keep changing, and the objective is “merely to stay in the game as long as possible”. Sinek reckons too many organisations fail to understand which game they are playing. In a 2018 presentation, he said that, in the Vietnam war, “the Americans were trying to ‘beat’ the North Vietnamese, while the North Vietnamese were fighting for their lives, and invariably, a different set of strategic choices was made . . . The United States . . . ran out of the will or the resources to play. They didn’t lose, they dropped out of the game.” For Webber, the objective of a team, winning matches, is different from that of a club. “Football’s an infinite game,” he says. “So when some people say, ‘Why are you spending £2m on a gym? Spend it on a striker, you have more chance of winning next week,’ well, yeah, you probably have. But this team will be here for ever. [Practice facilities will] train more strikers than £2m can buy you. In 15 years, you will look back and think: we brought 30 players through here.” A £20m player would be like a Ferrari in a Vauxhall garage. We’ve got to make our Vauxhalls almost as good as a Ferrari Stuart Webber, sporting director This long-term mindset has influenced how the entire club plays the game. Under Webber’s direction, Norwich City’s academy players, starting from age seven up to 21, are instructed to play in the progressive, passing style demanded in the first team. Sainty of the Canaries Trust says this is one reason why most Norwich City fans accept the club’s frugal approach: “From a fan’s point of view, we love watching it.” The playing style was also devised with an eye on the bottom line. Youth teams are told to play with two forwards rather than one, doubling the chances of developing valuable goalscorers. “[Strikers]are like gold dust,” says Webber. “If we can create our own, over time that will then save us millions and millions of pounds.” Thrust into the first team, Norwich’s starlets have thrived under the new system, grabbing the attention of wealthier clubs. Since 2017, the club has recouped £79.5m in sales of young players. This includes James Maddison to Leicester City, Ben Godfrey to Everton and Jamal Lewis to Newcastle United. The money has helped balance the books. That doesn’t mean the entire team is for sale. Last summer, FC Barcelona, the world’s highest-earning football club, approached Norwich about acquiring Max Aarons, a highly rated 21-year-old defender. Teammates jokingly dubbed him “Dani Alves”, after the ex-Barcelona and Brazil great. Norwich refused to sell, believing Aarons was key to the club’s promotion push, which would earn an estimated £170m in Premier League revenue — a more valuable prize that would benefit the club for years to come. Max Aarons A dejected Max Aarons after a 4-0 home defeat by West Ham confirmed the club’s relegation last season © Alex Pantling/Getty Images Webber, though, understands players have personal ambitions that may not align with the club’s. So he sat down with Aarons before the start of this season, showing him statistics that ranked the player alongside English right-backs such as Manchester City’s Kyle Walker, Chelsea’s Reece James and Leicester’s James Justin. The numbers showed Aarons had played more minutes than his peers at the same stage of their careers. “I was quite a way ahead of all the other right-backs when they were my age,” says Aarons. Webber’s argument to Aarons was that, by playing frequently at Norwich City, he was on track to become an even better player before, perhaps inevitably, he moves on to a bigger challenge. Aarons says analysis shows that his ball retention and chance creation have “gone up loads” over the past two seasons. “I’m a lot more composed,” the player says. “I don’t make rash decisions.” Head coach Daniel Farke Head coach Daniel Farke has led Norwich to promotion and relegation since taking charge of the team in 2017 © Daniel Castro Garcia Todd Cantwell Midfielder Todd Cantwell has emerged as one of the club’s key talents. ‘Everyone wants to play in the best league in the world’ © Daniel Castro Garcia In a small, sparse office that contains little more than a shelf full of “Manager of the Month” awards, I meet Daniel Farke, the club’s first team coach. We speak in the middle of the day, soon after he has concluded a “light” training session with players before an important match that evening. “[The players] are up in the morning and have proper breakfast and lunch,” he explains. “You don’t have to do this with the older players, who are a bit more experienced, who have families. But a young person thinks, ‘We’re playing at quarter past eight, so we can sleep till two and have a late night.’” A relative unknown in England before his arrival in 2017, Farke was sought out by Norwich for his excellent record leading Borussia Dortmund’s under-23 team in his native Germany. Even though the Canaries managed only a measly five Premier League wins last season, the club retained Farke. The other relegated teams, Bournemouth and Watford, both replaced their head coaches in response to the failure. He says: “Everyone in this business recommended, ‘Listen, with this approach, without spending money, paying for the sins of the past, with such a young side where no one really has Premier League experience — if you don’t add quality, you have no chance.’” But he adds that within the club leadership he felt “unbelievable trust and loyalty” towards him because it was well understood that relegation had been a “realistic outcome”. Instead, the club’s demand is to instil a progressive playing style and develop young players above all else. That is a noble aim — but surely that will again leave the team as cannon fodder if they return to the top tier? Nineteen-year-old Josh Martin in action for Norwich against Nottingham Forest in December. The club has recouped £79.5m since 2017 on selling some of its best young talent © Daniel Castro Garcia Tucking his long hair behind his ears, Farke says, “You don’t work in this business just to achieve realistic targets. Otherwise, Real Madrid will win the Champions League title each and every year. Otherwise, I will never win the Premier League title.” But, he admits, the club’s approach is that the means matter as much as the ends. “It is not so much the goal,” says Farke. “It’s more the way.” Hours later, I watch Norwich City play Nottingham Forest, two-time European Cup winners who dropped out of the Premier League more than 20 years ago. Before the game at Carrow Road, I’m invited to dine with the club directors. Over succulent grilled fish and a dessert of chocolate cheesecake, Smith amuses guests by revealing that she likes to eat at McDonald’s before away matches. (Her preferred order is a Big Mac.) Wynn-Jones regales the table with memories of Norwich City’s former glories. The match is a contrast of styles. Norwich hog the ball, passing relentlessly. Forest defend deep, hoof the ball forward while their manager Chris Hughton screams from the sidelines: “Pass! Pass!” There is no lack of passion on the Norwich City side. In the second half and already a goal ahead, midfielder Emiliano Buendía concedes a free kick. “Why did you foul him?” shouts Farke. “It wasn’t a ****ing foul!” retorts Buendía. “**** off!” screams Farke. Following the free kick, Forest equalise and celebrate wildly, but a few minutes later another smart sequence of passes ends with Buendía scoring the winner. The result left the club top of the Championship table, on course for a swift return to the Premier League. Webber says that with less need to invest in infrastructure, the purse strings will be steadily loosened to acquire players, providing a better shot at staying in the top division for longer. Fans at the Nottingham Forest game Fans at Carrow Road for the Nottingham Forest game. ‘From a fan’s point of view, we love watching it,’ says one supporter of the team’s attractive playing style © Daniel Castro Garcia But the club’s humble culture will come first. “Even when the day comes to spend more money,” says Webber. “It might also not be the right thing for our club to put a £20m player in this dressing room. It would be like putting a Ferrari in a Vauxhall garage. It would look out of place. We’ve got to try and make all our Vauxhalls almost as good as a Ferrari.” Executives around the sport tell me they have watched the Norwich City model in admiration. But they argue that, ultimately, modern football runs an efficient market. The best players attract the highest price tag and are paid the most. The best teams win the most matches. That leaves the club with a dilemma. Leaders such as Webber and Farke and emerging stars like Aarons and Cantwell admit to ambitions of moving to the world’s biggest teams in the future. What are clubs like Norwich City to play for, if not the sport’s shiniest silverware? “It’s about that infinite game,” says Webber, who insists that the process of self-improvement is reward in itself. “Every decision has got to mean that this club is left in a better place than when we arrived.”

  • Thanks 6

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, interwebme said:

Urgh pay wall. Could someone supply the words? 

apologies - it wasn't paywalled earlier when I read it but has been now - I'm not a subscriber either.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, kick it off said:

https://www.ft.com/content/2334c941-a1ab-48ce-b4fd-6747710c8054?accessToken=zwAAAXea-lEAkc8jNMlBoatIztO0_WdHcQyAVA.MEUCIQDljmUnVXnkDIzyi4-htyM_cC3Qa08iqlvbd20W14rf_QIgda_Zq1nTXAEoH0GD92LFJJjNK96-B4Q9d-BwNXq_ABA&sharetype=gift?token=e3c58c68-fa2e-4778-8208-32d1d7701352

Brill article with loads of interviews with Todd, Webber, Delia and Farke.

Firstly, a really refreshing piece of journalism that has really tried to get under the skin of what Norwich is. Little hyperbole, just a deep dive into what we're about.

Secondly, we're the first club in the country to get a £750,000 "soccerbot" simulation - will be installed at Colney and is composed of loads of video screens surrounding a small pitch to simulate match experience.

Thirdly, this quoted exchange from the Forest match when we were 1-0 up.... "There is no lack of passion on the Norwich City side. In the second half and already a goal ahead, midfielder Emiliano Buendía concedes a free kick. “Why did you foul him?” shouts Farke. “It wasn’t a ****ing foul!” retorts Buendía. “**** off!” screams Farke. "

I would say the comments below the line (or certainly one of them) are more interesting than the article itself...🤓

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It is a good article, but it doesn't give a nice answer to the question it poses - what is the point of the model? If it is just to exist and be an  entertaining part of a community then we do it very well; if it's to be successful and win things, then it doesn't and can't work. The people making the model work will move on, and what happens then?

I didn't like Webber's Vauxhall and Ferrari reference either - a little bit disparaging.

The soccerbot does look interesting though.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, sgncfc said:

It is a good article, but it doesn't give a nice answer to the question it poses - what is the point of the model? If it is just to exist and be an  entertaining part of a community then we do it very well; if it's to be successful and win things, then it doesn't and can't work. The people making the model work will move on, and what happens then?

I didn't like Webber's Vauxhall and Ferrari reference either - a little bit disparaging.

The soccerbot does look interesting though.

The model is meant to ensure continuity. Certainly from one head coach to another and even I suspect from one sporting director to another. Of course a bad choice can cause problems but then that is true of any system, and especially those that do not have the virtue of continuity.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, kick it off said:

This is the Soccerbot that we're bringing in.

 

I would have slept in that.....🤣....fantastic ✨✨💫👌⚽️...a step on from the original Dortmund concept:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WhAyX81zP2M

Brilliant .......makes training a - meaningful - pleasure...the inclusion of Neuroplastic brain-tracking and development is also long overdue. 

However romantically-perceived ‘running up mousehold Heath’ is,  this is a magnificent, intelligent fusion of science, sport and mental development. Heaven ✨💫

Parma 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

24 minutes ago, Parma Ham's gone mouldy said:

I would have slept in that.....🤣....fantastic ✨✨💫👌⚽️...a step on from the original Dortmund concept:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WhAyX81zP2M

Brilliant .......makes training a - meaningful - pleasure...the inclusion of Neuroplastic brain-tracking and development is also long overdue. 

However romantically-perceived ‘running up mousehold Heath’ is,  this is a magnificent, intelligent fusion of science, sport and mental development. Heaven ✨💫

Parma 

I wanted us to replicate the Dortmund one - now we’re bettering it!

Hopefully we will see players developing a little further than would have otherwise, and a great selling point for the club with potential transfer incomings.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Parma Ham's gone mouldy said:

I would have slept in that.....🤣....fantastic ✨✨💫👌⚽️...a step on from the original Dortmund concept:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WhAyX81zP2M

Brilliant .......makes training a - meaningful - pleasure...the inclusion of Neuroplastic brain-tracking and development is also long overdue. 

However romantically-perceived ‘running up mousehold Heath’ is,  this is a magnificent, intelligent fusion of science, sport and mental development. Heaven ✨💫

Parma 

Proper footballers don't need this kind of souped-up handphone jiggery to be a proper footballer. It's for when you are trying to turn athletes into footballers, that is, people without the innate skills already built into them.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Some of that article stinks of little 'Ole Norwich, a club with no ambition whose only goal is to just survive. 

 

Pretty demotivating stuff. 

  • Confused 1
  • Sad 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, CDMullins said:

Some of that article stinks of little 'Ole Norwich, a club with no ambition whose only goal is to just survive. 

 

Pretty demotivating stuff. 

Congratulations on putting a negative spin on something that everybody else on this thread finds positive. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for posting this. Great read.

Especially curious about that SoccerBot thing. Technology has been increasingly important in sport the last few years and I can only imagine that continuing. If Ifollow can sort out a VR headset that can place me in my seat for each game that would be great!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, RidgeYellow said:

Thanks for posting this. Great read.

Especially curious about that SoccerBot thing. Technology has been increasingly important in sport the last few years and I can only imagine that continuing. If Ifollow can sort out a VR headset that can place me in my seat for each game that would be great!

You'd only end up buffering endlessly whilst in the gents at half time

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Rock The Boat said:

Proper footballers don't need this kind of souped-up handphone jiggery to be a proper footballer. It's for when you are trying to turn athletes into footballers, that is, people without the innate skills already built into them.

1-2-3-4 Everybody walk the dinosaur.......................

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
57 minutes ago, Mason 47 said:

You'd only end up buffering endlessly whilst in the gents at half time

Is that a euphemism? 🤣

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

On 13/02/2021 at 18:03, Rock The Boat said:

Proper footballers don't need this kind of souped-up handphone jiggery to be a proper footballer. It's for when you are trying to turn athletes into footballers, that is, people without the innate skills already built into them.

Remind me about your tenure as England manager?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 13/02/2021 at 18:25, Thirsty Lizard said:

Congratulations on putting a negative spin on something that everybody else on this thread finds positive. 

It’s amazing he manages to get out of bed in the morning.

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It’s not a bad article but I think Nigel Pickover could teach the author a thing or two.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I enjoyed the article but one must remember that the FT sees everything in financial markets terms.

Hence its antipathy towards Brexit and also its bemusement with the Norwich model.  What price community spirit vs player's wages and so on.

 

As a professional economist I like the FT and believe it to be a good newspaper but one must understand the constraints within which it views the world - it sees everything only in terms of economic logic.

 

Supporting Norwich, affection for the county and admiration of the club's ownership are not solely economic concepts.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
15 hours ago, wooster said:

I enjoyed the article but one must remember that the FT sees everything in financial markets terms.

Hence its antipathy towards Brexit and also its bemusement with the Norwich model.  What price community spirit vs player's wages and so on.

 

As a professional economist I like the FT and believe it to be a good newspaper but one must understand the constraints within which it views the world - it sees everything only in terms of economic logic.

 

Supporting Norwich, affection for the county and admiration of the club's ownership are not solely economic concepts.

Not sure it is bemusement, wooster. Read to me more like a sensible scepticism. And I think the Wall Street Journal takes the prize as the newspaper that sees everything in financial market terms!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×
×
  • Create New...