nutty nigel 7,513 Posted December 21, 2020 Tippy tappy nonsense🙃 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,680 Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 'What's all this nonsense?! Not proper football is it! Back in my day it was hoof ball and slide tackles from behind and that's the way it was! Proper English football you get me? None of this fancy fairy foreign ****! The fact we havent got in Big Sam says it all, off to bloody West Brom when he should be here teaching our players how to chug pints and break the Opposition players bones like proper footballers!' 😉 Edited December 21, 2020 by cambridgeshire canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drazen Muzinic 1,444 Posted December 21, 2020 "‘...if God had wanted football to be played in the sky, he’d have put grass up there’." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted December 21, 2020 one notable aspect of that goal was it was not on the ground - too many of our shots are kept low, allowing the keeper a greater chance of saving the ball watch Cantwell's penalty v Spurs, top corner where no keeper would get to it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,093 Posted December 21, 2020 Also includes a pass back to Michael "he can't play out" McGovern who, under pressure, doesn't hoof it but passes to Hanley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rock bus 850 Posted December 21, 2020 When I re watched it I said to my son there would have been loads of moaning as the ball went back and sideways so many times. This goal shows exactly why we look to maintain possession, get the opposition chasing the ball and then open up spaces to allow for Buendia and Cantwell to have the room to weave their magic. Farkeball at its best! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Carrow 376 Posted December 21, 2020 I said at the start of the season that I thought lockdown would actually help our players after the frustrating end to last season. I have to say I'm doubtful supporters would have been patient enough to wait for all those late goals, often scored by tiring and moving opponents around with lots of sideways and backwards passes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,555 Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bill said: one notable aspect of that goal was it was not on the ground - too many of our shots are kept low, allowing the keeper a greater chance of saving the ball watch Cantwell's penalty v Spurs, top corner where no keeper would get to it Actually the ball doesn't go high into the net, and is at close to that mid-height that is generally the best for a goalie to make a save. That the Cardiff keeper didn't was due to the power of the shot (as Goreham said, Cantwell belted it) and to the placement towards the corner. Generally speaking, though there are exceptions, the hardest shots for goalies are those very high up and those skimming along the ground. Edited December 21, 2020 by PurpleCanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,513 Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, PurpleCanary said: Actually the ball doesn't go high into the net, and is at close to that mid-height that is generally the best for a goalie to make a save. That the Cardiff keeper didn't was due to the power of the shot (as Goreham, said Cantwell belted it) and to the placement towards the corner. Generally speaking, though there are exceptions, the hardest shots for goalies are those very high up and those skimming along the ground. The two things I notice goalkeepers struggle with is if a low shot hits the turf just before the diving keepers hand and shots through defenders legs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,580 Posted December 21, 2020 56 minutes ago, Nuff Said said: Also includes a pass back to Michael "he can't play out" McGovern who, under pressure, doesn't hoof it but passes to Hanley. I understand that McGovern has been better than expected but I don't think even his harshest critics were claiming he couldn't pass the ball 5 yards under no pressure to a central defender. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,618 Posted December 21, 2020 56 minutes ago, Mr.Carrow said: I said at the start of the season that I thought lockdown would actually help our players after the frustrating end to last season. I have to say I'm doubtful supporters would have been patient enough to wait for all those late goals, often scored by tiring and moving opponents around with lots of sideways and backwards passes. Really valid point. Look at the ridiculous levels of criticism after completely dominating the game against Derby, but losing to a single set piece, for example. Look at some of the match threads when we hadn't scored after 45 minutes. Now we're top and proven what some of us said all along (that the performances were fine, everything pointed to them being fine, etc etc) - fans should be alot more willing to be patient etc so the sooner the fans are back the better. But at the start of the season I agree, probably worked better not having us! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,618 Posted December 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, king canary said: I understand that McGovern has been better than expected but I don't think even his harshest critics were claiming he couldn't pass the ball 5 yards under no pressure to a central defender. You did see @TeemuVanBasten posts, right? 😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,501 Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, nutty nigel said: The two things I notice goalkeepers struggle with is if a low shot hits the turf just before the diving keepers hand and shots through defenders legs. I remember one season in the PL when about 7 in 10 of the goals seemed to be where the keeper was 'yorked'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank shoots Skyler 2,094 Posted December 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Nuff Said said: Also includes a pass back to Michael "he can't play out" McGovern who, under pressure, doesn't hoof it but passes to Hanley. Errrr… 'under pressure'? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,093 Posted December 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, Hank shoots Skyler said: Errrr… 'under pressure'? Fair enough, just watched it again and it was Hanley whom had the opposition on top of him. It's been a long week. It's Monday? 😣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted December 21, 2020 2 hours ago, nutty nigel said: The two things I notice goalkeepers struggle with is if a low shot hits the turf just before the diving keepers hand and shots through defenders legs. or even between 😉 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted December 21, 2020 2 hours ago, PurpleCanary said: Actually the ball doesn't go high into the net, and is at close to that mid-height that is generally the best for a goalie to make a save. That the Cardiff keeper didn't was due to the power of the shot (as Goreham said, Cantwell belted it) and to the placement towards the corner. Generally speaking, though there are exceptions, the hardest shots for goalies are those very high up and those skimming along the ground. not sure why you chose to misrepresent what I said, again "one notable aspect of that goal was it was not on the ground - too many of our shots are kept low, allowing the keeper a greater chance of saving the ball watch Cantwell's penalty v Spurs, top corner where no keeper would get to it" I never said it went "high into the net" as can be read However what I will add is that ground level shots are easier than those below the chest, as the keeper can get down easier than having to judge at what level the bsll is and if there is any 'swerve' ie anything off the ground has a better chance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,287 Posted December 21, 2020 3 hours ago, nutty nigel said: Tippy tappy nonsense🙃 I know what you want Nutty?......... Why aren’t we Sheffield United and humping the ball forward old school! When we move the ball, open team up, it’s noticeable how Cantwell, Pukki & Buendia are pivotal to that speeding up at the right time. Absolutely brilliant players who deserve full credit. Can’t wait to see a fully fit team, imagine Skipp & Sorensen cool head in midfield with Cantwell, Dowell & Buendia behind Pukki.....that’s a premiership set up which would certainly keep us up next year if we get promoted! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank shoots Skyler 2,094 Posted December 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, Nuff Said said: Fair enough, just watched it again and it was Hanley whom had the opposition on top of him. It's been a long week. It's Monday? 😣 LOL In fairness you can probably take 'McGovern' out of your initial post and replace it with 'Hanley'. Unreal ball control from the big man. I do recall some excrement shooting out when he doubled back on himself during the game though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,329 Posted December 21, 2020 2 hours ago, PurpleCanary said: Actually the ball doesn't go high into the net, and is at close to that mid-height that is generally the best for a goalie to make a save. That the Cardiff keeper didn't was due to the power of the shot (as Goreham said, Cantwell belted it) and to the placement towards the corner. Generally speaking, though there are exceptions, the hardest shots for goalies are those very high up and those skimming along the ground. Its ok Purpleo , he'll understand the game one day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,513 Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, ron obvious said: I remember one season in the PL when about 7 in 10 of the goals seemed to be where the keeper was 'yorked'. Yorked is spot on Ron. There you go, your new name for the pink un.. Spot On Ron 🙃 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted December 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said: Its ok Purpleo , he'll understand the game one day. having played semi pro (as it was then known) I have a fair idea of the game but still struggle with understanding why the likes of your sort need to misrepresent what is posted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,501 Posted December 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, nutty nigel said: Yorked is spot on Ron. There you go, your new name for the pink un.. Spot On Ron 🙃 😁 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,329 Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Bill said: having played semi pro (as it was then known) I have a fair idea of the game but still struggle with understanding why the likes of your sort need to misrepresent what is posted Get over yourself , if you understood the game you could have been a full pro. .. or was it a " cant be told " attitude that hindered your career?..you also wouldn't have such a childish attitude to stats. You would also understand why Zonal marking is used by many top teams. So take your " I know everything about everything " and shove it up your know all arris . You're a Pritstick chap and it was so nice here when you were gone. Edited December 21, 2020 by wcorkcanary 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rich T The Biscuit 562 Posted December 21, 2020 26 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said: Get over yourself , if you understood the game you could have been a full pro. .. or was it a " cant be told " attitude that hindered your career?..you also wouldn't have such a childish attitude to stats. You would also understand why Zonal marking is used by many top teams. So take your " I know everything about everything " and shove it up your know all arris . You're a Pritstick chap and it was so nice here when you were gone. 😂😂😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rich T The Biscuit 562 Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Bill said: However what I will add is that ground level shots are easier than those below the chest, as the keeper can get down easier than having to judge at what level the bsll is and if there is any 'swerve' ie anything off the ground has a better chance Bill the goalkeeper coach now, no end to his talents. As a qualified goalkeeper coach top corner and bottom corner are the hardest ones to get to either because of lack of height and reach or because the tall keepers find it harder to get down quickly. Shots between the head and knee should be bread and butter to most keepers and it was the pace that beat the keeper not the height. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites