cambridgeshire canary 6,516 Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) Only 20 minutes in and 3 nill down in their cup final. Edited December 20, 2020 by cambridgeshire canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzar 1,701 Posted December 20, 2020 Here's to a thumping *raises glass*. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,066 Posted December 20, 2020 Just now, Indy said: We want ten! So do the Binners! 😀 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted December 20, 2020 It’s Leeds - probably the best Championship team ever to be promoted to the Premier League. So with that new rule established, you can’t look at 4 goals conceded in the first half, you have to report on the one goal they scored and how wonderful Patrick Bamford has been and how bravely they play. Unlike naive Norwich. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,703 Posted December 20, 2020 As much as I don't like them, you have to admit that it's a lot more interesting to watch Leeds than it is to watch West Brom, Burnley, Newcastle, Brighton... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,746 Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: As much as I don't like them, you have to admit that it's a lot more interesting to watch Leeds than it is to watch West Brom, Burnley, Newcastle, Brighton... I've seen walls drying that were more entertaining than Burnley. Enjoy watching Brighton though. 6-1 now and could get worse. How sad Edited December 20, 2020 by dylanisabaddog 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,447 Posted December 20, 2020 Bielsa is obviously not the world's best defensive manager. Leeds need to sort that out. Cooper is very decent but as a team they are very open. They do make a good watch I agree. Far better than Sheff Utd and Burnley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,239 Posted December 20, 2020 All that running about at 100mph doesn't seem to be working today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,503 Posted December 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: As much as I don't like them, you have to admit that it's a lot more interesting to watch Leeds than it is to watch West Brom, Burnley, Newcastle, Brighton... Oh I'm definitely getting entertainment value from watching them today! 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,232 Posted December 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, sonyc said: Bielsa is obviously not the world's best defensive manager. Leeds need to sort that out. Cooper is very decent but as a team they are very open. They do make a good watch I agree. Far better than Sheff Utd and Burnley. Nope, given if they concede another goal it will put them on the same number of goals we conceded in our first 14 games, yet we were naive and poor at defending.....what’s Leeds excuse? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet 293 Posted December 20, 2020 I thought Bielsa was supposed to be the best manager in the world. This season is ruining his CV. Leeds will stay up only because of the crap currently below them 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mannings bandy legs 375 Posted December 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Indy said: Nope, given if they concede another goal it will put them on the same number of goals we conceded in our first 14 games, yet we were naive and poor at defending.....what’s Leeds excuse? Don't get all the hype over Bielsa. Hardly the messiah! Never won anything,and any half decent manager would get this Leeds squad doing just what they are doing,win one ,lose four.And people say Farke did'nt have a plan B!!Bielsa defo does'nt!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,516 Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, mannings bandy legs said: Don't get all the hype over Bielsa. Hardly the messiah! Never won anything,and any half decent manager would get this Leeds squad doing just what they are doing,win one ,lose four.And people say Farke did'nt have a plan B!!Bielsa defo does'nt!!! Guy can't even speak a word of English! And he sits on buckets which for some reason the media seems to think is some kinda beautiful poetic genius move.. Edited December 20, 2020 by cambridgeshire canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,703 Posted December 20, 2020 I dislike Leeds as much as everyone else here, but in their defence: 6 minutes ago, Indy said: Nope, given if they concede another goal it will put them on the same number of goals we conceded in our first 14 games, yet we were naive and poor at defending.....what’s Leeds excuse? They've scored eight more. 3 minutes ago, Mullet said: I thought Bielsa was supposed to be the best manager in the world. This season is ruining his CV. Leeds will stay up only because of the crap currently below them Is Bielsa's CV being ruined? The Leeds side of this season is very much in keeping with his reputation. Whilst obviously they're conceding a lot, they're very entertaining and score a lot, too. Also, man for man, they're not exactly brilliant. Bamford, Dallas, Ayling, Meslier, Klich and Alioski are not exactly world beaters but they're undisputed regulars in this team and are all performing at a much higher standard than they have previously in their careers. Bielsa is getting the best out of a lot of players who are barely Premier League standard. Most managers would seriously struggle with this group. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,232 Posted December 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: I dislike Leeds as much as everyone else here, but in their defence: They've scored eight more. Is Bielsa's CV being ruined? The Leeds side of this season is very much in keeping with his reputation. Whilst obviously they're conceding a lot, they're very entertaining and score a lot, too. Also, man for man, they're not exactly brilliant. Bamford, Dallas, Ayling, Meslier, Klich and Alioski are not exactly world beaters but they're undisputed regulars in this team and are all performing at a much higher standard than they have previously in their careers. Bielsa is getting the best out of a lot of players who are barely Premier League standard. Most managers would seriously struggle with this group. So you think Leeds have a worse squad than Norwich had last year? I’m sorry but any team who spend over £90 million this season with their team should stay up! If they don’t then it’s definitely a stain on his reputation, to be honest it took him long enough to get them up considering the quality of players they bought and loaned in his three seasons he’s been there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,065 Posted December 20, 2020 Bamford lost track of the score! Just said instead of 7-2 it could’ve been 6-6. Well, he’s right, it could’ve been better for Leeds, if only they had a decent striker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,825 Posted December 20, 2020 They let goals in but also win matches. Good thrashing today but they’ll be fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,232 Posted December 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Fiery Zac said: Bamford lost track of the score! Just said instead of 7-2 it could’ve been 6-6. Well, he’s right, it could’ve been better for Leeds, if only they had a decent striker Yes but from what I saw it could have been 12 - 6, Man U weren’t at their best either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pearsos 56 Posted December 20, 2020 35 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: And he sits on buckets which for some reason the media seems to think is some kinda beautiful poetic genius move.. Perhaps he has stomach trouble 😉😉😉😉😉, oh SITS, sorry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rich T The Biscuit 562 Posted December 20, 2020 45 minutes ago, Mullet said: I thought Bielsa was supposed to be the best manager in the world. This season is ruining his CV. Leeds will stay up only because of the crap currently below them A world class manager would have the ability to play a different style of play when Plan A isn't working. All out attack will keep them up but you can't be that naive against the better side and expect to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,703 Posted December 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, Indy said: So you think Leeds have a worse squad than Norwich had last year? I’m sorry but any team who spend over £90 million this season with their team should stay up! If they don’t then it’s definitely a stain on his reputation, to be honest it took him long enough to get them up considering the quality of players they bought and loaned in his three seasons he’s been there. I don't think Leeds' squad is any better, man for man, than any other side in the division aside from Sheffield United, regardless of how much money they've spent. I'm not sure how much Leeds have spent in total to assemble their squad, but is there a club in the Premier League that have spent considerably less? Possibly Burnley? Bielsa is doing a better job than most would with that squad. They're seven points above relegation with a PPG of 1.21, which isn't to be sniffed at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,232 Posted December 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: I don't think Leeds' squad is any better, man for man, than any other side in the division aside from Sheffield United, regardless of how much money they've spent. I'm not sure how much Leeds have spent in total to assemble their squad, but is there a club in the Premier League that have spent considerably less? Possibly Burnley? Bielsa is doing a better job than most would with that squad. They're seven points above relegation with a PPG of 1.21, which isn't to be sniffed at. So that must make Wilder a genius then! I don’t agree that team assembled has a starting 11 with lots of top players, squad might be lacking in depth but they are certainly better than Fulham or WBA or Sheffield to name three, I’d then argue Brighton and Palace too but it’s all about opinions. Unlike others I don’t rate Bielsa as high, I think he blew promotion two season running and was lucky to be there, but again it’s about opinions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,703 Posted December 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Indy said: So that must make Wilder a genius then! I don’t agree that team assembled has a starting 11 with lots of top players, squad might be lacking in depth but they are certainly better than Fulham or WBA or Sheffield to name three, I’d then argue Brighton and Palace too but it’s all about opinions. Unlike others I don’t rate Bielsa as high, I think he blew promotion two season running and was lucky to be there, but again it’s about opinions. Personally, I'd say that Fulham's side is, on paper, better than Leeds'. West Brom and Sheffield United, probably not. Bielsa only took over in 2018 so he only failed to get promotion once, not two seasons running, and even then, he finished higher than any other Leeds manager in the preceding 15 years. For me, he's a top manager. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,232 Posted December 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: Personally, I'd say that Fulham's side is, on paper, better than Leeds'. West Brom and Sheffield United, probably not. Bielsa only took over in 2018 so he only failed to get promotion once, not two seasons running, and even then, he finished higher than any other Leeds manager in the preceding 15 years. For me, he's a top manager. Yes sorry one season, thought it was two still don’t think he’s that good, but we all have opinions, I never rated Alex Neil a lot of people do! Ce La Vie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 929 Posted December 20, 2020 They're more interesting than Arsenal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,516 Posted December 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Making Plans said: They're more interesting than Arsenal Arsenal lost their soul when they moved to the Emerites Stadium to be honest Sam as when West Ham moved out the Boleyn Ground Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary73 148 Posted December 20, 2020 You can add, Southampton, Derby, Coventry and Cardiff to that list - never the same as the as the original. That netting at Ninian Park (borrowed from the Krypton Factor) was all that separated the home and away fans.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted December 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Canary73 said: You can add, Southampton, Derby, Coventry and Cardiff to that list - never the same as the as the original. That netting at Ninian Park (borrowed from the Krypton Factor) was all that separated the home and away fans.... .................not forgetting a few millennia in evolution as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corbs 147 Posted December 21, 2020 https://throughitalltogether.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2010/1/4/2911484/manchester-united-0-leeds-united-1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites