Club make complaint about officials

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,574]

https://www.pinkun.com/sport/norwich-city/canaries-complain-to-the-efl-after-luke-berry-incident-reports-6600920

'Norwich City have launched a complaint to the EFL over the conduct of Darren England and the match officials during their 3-1 defeat to Luton Town on Wednesday evening.'

Interesting...

[Fiery Zac 1,066]

The penalty decision was f***ing ridiculous, but I wasn’t surprised by that point as the officials had been s*** all game. 
 

Has there ever been any response from a complaint like this? At most the ref will get a weekend off to do some Xmas shopping and then be back next week. The standard of refereeing is so poor across all leagues.

[Ken Hairy 4,272]

Disappointed if we have, seems petty and makes us sound like the Championship version of Man Utd. Get over it and move onto Sheff Wed's. We didn't lose because of the ref. 

[kick it off 2,062]

4 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said:

Disappointed if we have, seems petty and makes us sound like the Championship version of Man Utd. Get over it and move onto Sheff Wed's. We didn't lose because of the ref. 

I agree, we didn't, we lost because we were ****e.... but hard to deny all 3 of their goals came from ludicrous Free Kicks and the absolutely ridiculous penalty. They didn't score a single goal that wasn't directly preceded by a **** decision from the ref in their favour.

[Branston Pickle 4,129]

Perfectly reasonable to make a case if they think they have one  - there’s a lot of stuff we aren’t aware of, so something must have tipped it over from the ‘norm’ of him just being crap.

Edited December 3, 2020 by Branston Pickle

[keelansgrandad 6,680]

Bit sour grapes really. Just because someone else is punished in a different game doesn't affect us.

And after the questionable penalty against Coventry then I would take whatever you can get.

Red card? Don't think so. Although I do think it should be an automatic red card and then there is no argument whether somebody was covering or not.

But he did appear to be a homer. He didn't give Emi any protection and the foul by Sorenson for their second goal was debatable and the Hanley handball looked accidental at worst.

The refereeing is at the lowest level I have ever seen. Its a thankless job in some ways but I have always felt the advent of professional officials would lead to a lowering of standards rather than raising because they don't want to lose their £42k retainer and £600 efl game payment  rising to well over a thousand in the epl.

[Ken Hairy 4,272]

7 minutes ago, kick it off said:

I agree, we didn't, we lost because we were ****e.... but hard to deny all 3 of their goals came from ludicrous Free Kicks and the absolutely ridiculous penalty. They didn't score a single goal that wasn't directly preceded by a **** decision from the ref in their favour.

Thought their penalty was right to be honest, in fact they should have had another after Hanley handballed again a few minutes later

[hogesar 10,697]

I dont think we played well yesterday but that shouldn't excuse diabolical refereeing, good to see the club do this.

[The Real Buh 3,757]

The hassle on the touch line was just weird. Referee was acting a tw@ all night.

[keelansgrandad 6,680]

So when its Neil Warnock he is a wnaker?

[FenwayFrank 2,698]

Might be to do with this too

[Mello Yello 2,553]

We should just take that defeat on the chin, regroup and carry on......We really don't want to incur the future wrath of the closing of ranks officials.....Y'know what I'm sayin'?....  

[hogesar 10,697]

1 minute ago, FenwayFrank said:

Might be to do with this too

I couldn't believe he celebrated with the ref and...the ref allowed it. Half expected him to rip of his ref shirt to reveal an I LOVE LUTON tattoo on his chest .

People calling sour grapes are being a bit naive. The club are fully aware they're not going to suddenly be awarded with points but what's important is that awful refereeing is acknowledged and reported.

As fans we complain about the standard of refereeing most weeks. Then when the club has an opportunity to raise the issue theyre criticised.

[The Real Buh 3,757]

 

3 minutes ago, Mello Yello said:

We should just take that defeat on the chin, regroup and carry on......We really don't want to incur the future wrath of the closing of ranks officials.....Y'know what I'm sayin'?....  

The best thing about having only 2000 fans in Carrow road is I can call the ref a cu&t and he’ll definitely hear it

[Mello Yello 2,553]

1 minute ago, The Real Buh said:

 

The best thing about having only 2000 fans in Carrow road is I can call the ref a cu&t and he’ll definitely hear it

So will the other 1999 fans.....and the stewards and others.....Good luck with that.....Potty mouth.....

[The Real Buh 3,757]

Just now, Mello Yello said:

So will the other 1999 fans.....and the stewards and others.....Good luck with that.....Potty mouth.....

Grow up

[Mello Yello 2,553]

2 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

Grow up

That's an Oxy......Moron....

[The Real Buh 3,757]

1 minute ago, Mello Yello said:

That's an Oxy......Moron....

I didn’t realise we had a professor on board tonight 

[jaywick_canery 28]

It's a pretty shocking image I have to say.

[Mello Yello 2,553]

5 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

I didn’t realise we had a professor on board tonight 

....Ho ho ho.....

[sgncfc 1,330]

It isn't the refs fault that a Luton player loses his cool and celebrates. It is the ref's fault that he doesn't then send him off. It's also the ref's fault that he ignored a specific directive that when a goalkeeper is the last man and takes out a player for a penalty it is a straight red - not a yellow; the ref does not have discretion in that circumstance and he will undoubtedly get sanctioned for both of those fundamental errors.

The free kicks are just an opinion - I thought the Sorensen one was a free kick as he raised his hands. The Hanley one was 50/50. In both of those cases they didn't directly lead to a goal - out appalling defending gave a huge assist in both cases. The penalty he gave against Hanley was just a joke, but the linesman didn't see anything either apparently, so I doubt he will even get a warning for any of that.

To be honest, the way we were playing we could have had the extra man and would still have lost comfortably. We were deservedly beaten by a better team on the night despite all these things.

Refs in the Championship may be awful but I still prefer them to VAR.

[KiwiScot 1,684]

I tend to find Farke comes arcoss a bit like a sore loser in some match interviews as he comes up with excuses why we have lost winnable games instead of admitting it was them.

[Spix 3]

50 minutes ago, kick it off said:

I agree, we didn't, we lost because we were ****e.... but hard to deny all 3 of their goals came from ludicrous Free Kicks and the absolutely ridiculous penalty. They didn't score a single goal that wasn't directly preceded by a **** decision from the ref in their favour.

By the same token the Norwich penalty was also a joke, Placheta was already on his way down before he got anywhere near the Luton keeper. He did exactly the same in winning a penalty last Saturday against Coventry. Far from Shea getting a red card Placheta should have received a yellow for stimulation. Norwich are better than having to resort to diving in the penalty area.

[keelansgrandad 6,680]

29 minutes ago, hogesar said:

I couldn't believe he celebrated with the ref and...the ref allowed it. Half expected him to rip of his ref shirt to reveal an I LOVE LUTON tattoo on his chest .

People calling sour grapes are being a bit naive. The club are fully aware they're not going to suddenly be awarded with points but what's important is that awful refereeing is acknowledged and reported.

As fans we complain about the standard of refereeing most weeks. Then when the club has an opportunity to raise the issue theyre criticised.

Why didn't we think last weeks ref was awful?

We are complaining based on something that happened in another game  in another league.

Some of the issues that upset people seem pretty unimportant on reflection.

 

[The Real Buh 3,757]

4 minutes ago, Spix said:

By the same token the Norwich penalty was also a joke, Placheta was already on his way down before he got anywhere near the Luton keeper. He did exactly the same in winning a penalty last Saturday against Coventry. Far from Shea getting a red card Placheta should have received a yellow for stimulation. Norwich are better than having to resort to diving in the penalty area.

Luton pleb detected...

[Well b back 3,594]

Regards that the rule on physical contact is clear, but not clear if you get what I mean as although seemingly not aggressive, it would have seemed very provocative to our players I would guess. If you were playing on a Sunday and a ref gave a penalty and an opposition player celebrated with the referee what would you think ? You are a cheat maybe ?. He has just given a controversial penalty seen as a bad decision by our players and a player celebrates with him ?. Conduct likely to be considered as provoking opposition players is also a straight red. There must have been a lot that happened for a complaint to be put in as we normally just have a quick moan, then back the ref, it’s a hard job ect. 
What the hell was an assistant referee doing arguing with Farke while the game was ongoing ? You ignore him then call the ref over at a suitable time, unless he said something first ?

Physical contact with match officials

• A yellow card for physical contact with any match official in a non-aggressive manner (e.g. an inquisitive approach to grab the official’s attention).
• A red card for physical contact with match officials in an aggressive or confrontational manner.

[JF 694]

41 minutes ago, FenwayFrank said:

Might be to do with this too

Wow, I’ve never seen that on a football pitch before

[Spix 3]

Just watch it again. Slow the footage down until it becomes a frame by frame. Placheta dived, just as he did last Saturday.

[cambridgeshire canary 7,767]

Sadly nothing will come of it, but at the end of the day we lost.

 

 

Time to move on.

Edited December 3, 2020 by cambridgeshire canary

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,574]

7 minutes ago, sgncfc said:

. It's also the ref's fault that he ignored a specific directive that when a goalkeeper is the last man and takes out a player for a penalty it is a straight red - not a yellow; the ref does not have discretion in that circumstance and he will undoubtedly get sanctioned for both of those fundamental errors.

I don't think that's true.

The rule is that if it's denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity in the penalty area when a genuine attempt to win the ball is made, it's a yellow.

Denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity in the area without attempting to win the ball (e.g. shirt pull, deliberate trip) is a red card, as is denying a goal, such as when a player is going to put the ball in an empty net or a deliberate handball on the line.

Our penalty was the former. He took Placheta out, but it was a genuine attempt to win the ball and he was heading wide, so probably wasn't an obvious goalscoring opportunity anyway. Penalty and a yellow was the right decision.