dylanisabaddog 4,877 Posted November 29, 2020 The 3 relegated teams are top of the Championship and two of the three promoted teams are at the bottom of the Premier League along with Sheffield United. Is the gulf between the 2 divisions getting bigger? We've just got 7 out of 9 points including 2 horrible away games and we did it with half a squad. I think the gap is bigger than it was 2 seasons ago and I have a nasty feeling that however much we spend we'll struggle to stay up if promoted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,423 Posted November 29, 2020 It’s broken. European super league required. Take your VAR and FIFA 21 and f&@£ off. You can have 9.00pm kickoff times for the fans in Singapore like you want to and we can have football back. Sounds good to me. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,155 Posted November 29, 2020 59 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: The 3 relegated teams are top of the Championship and two of the three promoted teams are at the bottom of the Premier League along with Sheffield United. Is the gulf between the 2 divisions getting bigger? We've just got 7 out of 9 points including 2 horrible away games and we did it with half a squad. I think the gap is bigger than it was 2 seasons ago and I have a nasty feeling that however much we spend we'll struggle to stay up if promoted. You beat me to it dylan - I was going to post exactly the same thing. It was absolutely obvious last season that the quality of the Premier League has skyrocketed, even in just the last few seasons. And I agree - if we get promoted again it will be incredibly difficult to stay up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
splendidrush 700 Posted December 2, 2020 If they don't go down the European Super League route, it's likely to be a Prem 1&2. Two divisions of say 16 or 18 Teams. In the 'hope' of spreading the wealth, of course this will only be agreed as long as the big Clubs retain control of the rules...... and the wealth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted December 2, 2020 On 29/11/2020 at 09:39, dylanisabaddog said: The 3 relegated teams are top of the Championship and two of the three promoted teams are at the bottom of the Premier League along with Sheffield United. Is the gulf between the 2 divisions getting bigger? We've just got 7 out of 9 points including 2 horrible away games and we did it with half a squad. I think the gap is bigger than it was 2 seasons ago and I have a nasty feeling that however much we spend we'll struggle to stay up if promoted. Yeah, but who cares as surely being a yoyo team is far more exciting in many ways. Also, in the Champs we get far more games and can see our team more often and we don't have to suffer VAR. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgncfc 1,223 Posted December 2, 2020 Personally I'd welcome a Premier League 1 and 2. Especially if they made it regional with end of season playoffs like the NFL and introduced the draft system and equal money......that's the only way we will ever be able to compete. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,946 Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, paul moy said: Yeah, but who cares as surely being a yoyo team is far more exciting in many ways. Also, in the Champs we get far more games and can see our team more often and we don't have to suffer VAR. The Championship stops being fun when your stuck in it for too many seasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,492 Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) On 29/11/2020 at 10:34, Thirsty Lizard said: You beat me to it dylan - I was going to post exactly the same thing. It was absolutely obvious last season that the quality of the Premier League has skyrocketed, even in just the last few seasons. And I agree - if we get promoted again it will be incredibly difficult to stay up. Very much agree with this. You can certainly see it this season now that fans are not at grounds (especially with the absence of the 12th man phenomenon). Bar something very special happening for a promoted team (massive investment, lucky results etc), the gap between what money can buy in terms of talent means that the gap is widening appreciably between rich and poor clubs. For our current team for example, should we find ourselves promoted next Spring then we would face an enormous task. Farke stated he felt we would be more prepared in that interesting interview piece (All in Yellow) but didn't say how in any depth. Edited December 2, 2020 by sonyc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unique 434 Posted December 2, 2020 Promotion is a poison chalice as the enjoyment of the achievement is almost inevitably, in Norwich’s case, whether it is after one year or two, followed by relegation. Take Skipp out of the side, and that will definitely happen at the end of the season, we are a weaker side than the team of 2018-19. This time around we know that the squad is full of players not fit for the Premier League, whereas last time round we thought we had a squad of players that could potentially hold their own in the PL. If we were to be promoted, we know we would play the same way, so we know the squad would need a massive overhaul, and we know we haven’t got the money. Best to enjoy the highs, suffer the lows, and realise that Norwich’s best chance of ever winning anything requires relegation from the PL. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,492 Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, unique said: Promotion is a poison chalice as the enjoyment of the achievement is almost inevitably, in Norwich’s case, whether it is after one year or two, followed by relegation. Take Skipp out of the side, and that will definitely happen at the end of the season, we are a weaker side than the team of 2018-19. This time around we know that the squad is full of players not fit for the Premier League, whereas last time round we thought we had a squad of players that could potentially hold their own in the PL. If we were to be promoted, we know we would play the same way, so we know the squad would need a massive overhaul, and we know we haven’t got the money. Best to enjoy the highs, suffer the lows, and realise that Norwich’s best chance of ever winning anything requires relegation from the PL. An excellent (and for me, accurate) perspective. Edited December 2, 2020 by sonyc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,349 Posted December 2, 2020 Its fun going up and down though, or would you rather be stuck in one league for ten years. In the last 17 seasons we have had 5 promotions and 4 relegations. Barely a dull moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,580 Posted December 2, 2020 On 29/11/2020 at 09:39, dylanisabaddog said: The 3 relegated teams are top of the Championship and two of the three promoted teams are at the bottom of the Premier League along with Sheffield United. Is the gulf between the 2 divisions getting bigger? We've just got 7 out of 9 points including 2 horrible away games and we did it with half a squad. I think the gap is bigger than it was 2 seasons ago and I have a nasty feeling that however much we spend we'll struggle to stay up if promoted. I think its a money issue as much as anything. Transfermarkt suggests Championship spending fell off a cliff this season- a total spend of around £90m compared to over £200m for each of the previous 4 seasons. Teams have just been treading water without really improving their squads at all, so a squad like ours with good depth and proven quality at this level can really stand out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grando 260 Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, sgncfc said: Personally I'd welcome a Premier League 1 and 2. Especially if they made it regional with end of season playoffs like the NFL and introduced the draft system and equal money......that's the only way we will ever be able to compete. Why at that level would we need regional? It's not like we're a large country! And how would a regional element even work? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Midlands Yellow said: The Championship stops being fun when your stuck in it for too many seasons. I agree. Leeds were stuck for 16 seasons but mainly due to their lack of funds after mortgaging their club to the hilt for short-term attempts at success under Ridsdale. Meanwhile, we have been a true yoyoing club while being sensible with our finances, which I'm confident will continue. The Premier League sadly is pretty boring and predictable and I'm not unhappy to be out of it occasionally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgncfc 1,223 Posted December 2, 2020 49 minutes ago, Grando said: Why at that level would we need regional? It's not like we're a large country! And how would a regional element even work? Well, maybe not regional (though a North v South thing would be quite good!) but as long as they mixed up the good and bad. Anyway, it won't happen - there isn't that kind of innovation at the FA or the EPL. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtopia 517 Posted December 2, 2020 I like the idea of changing the format. Youth football often uses mini leagues, say 6 teams and does 2 or three seasons a year. Lots of very close games, more chance of winning stuff etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C.I.D 302 Posted December 2, 2020 3 hours ago, ricardo said: Its fun going up and down though, or would you rather be stuck in one league for ten years. In the last 17 seasons we have had 5 promotions and 4 relegations. Barely a dull moment. We can only blame Delia ....and Michael,can't we ?😃 😃 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,336 Posted December 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Midlands Yellow said: The Championship stops being fun when your stuck in it for too many seasons. As Ipswich have already found about League One 😀 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
