Uncle Fred 526 Posted November 20, 2020 Warnock has did his usual job and made boro very hard to beat if we win tomorrow and our injury crisis doesn’t get any worse I think we will be on for a promising season, it is really a barometer game for us ie can we break down the best organised defence in the league away from home If we don’t I think there will be question marks about the campaign, every season you look back and see that as a pivotal game, I think that game is tonorrow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,680 Posted November 20, 2020 Ah yes, having gone 7 games unbeaten getting a draw tomorrow or a loss will mean we are in for a downward spiral that will result in us finishing 15th. 🤫 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted November 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, Uncle Fred said: Warnock has did his usual job and made boro very hard to beat if we win tomorrow and our injury crisis doesn’t get any worse I think we will be on for a promising season, it is really a barometer game for us ie can we break down the best organised defence in the league away from home If we don’t I think there will be question marks about the campaign, every season you look back and see that as a pivotal game, I think that game is tonorrow To be fair, if there’s one defence which would be the most ‘acceptable’ not to break down then it would be Boro’s, so if we say draw away against them I don’t think that will define the season, and for many a City supporter a point and keeping our unbeaten record intact would be a pretty good result. I guess we all have a game though where we think ‘there’s the turning point’ - mine I would have said Bristol City, but actually I think it was Swansea, the best team we have faced I feel. We look in good shape - it’d take a tremendous drop in form now to see us finish outside the top 6 and really, if anything, we definitely have a higher gear to go to which we’ve not seen yet. Still have this feeling we’re going to win the title though, yellow and green tinted specs perhaps, but I just think overall we really do have the most to offer on our day. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Fred 526 Posted November 20, 2020 Breaking boro really is a statement and by 3 or 4 would send shivers down the spin of other teams Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk Mustard 94 Posted November 20, 2020 I also see Boro away as a key game; a draw against them would be credible. However, a convincing win could represent the gear-change in performance most of us are hoping to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,680 Posted November 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, Norfolk Mustard said: I also see Boro away as a key game; a draw against them would be credible. However, a convincing win could represent the gear-change in performance most of us are hoping to see. Can't really argue too much about a getting an away draw in this leauge regardless of who we are playing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banjoman 38 Posted November 21, 2020 17 hours ago, Uncle Fred said: Breaking boro really is a statement and by 3 or 4 would send shivers down the spin of other teams Yes it would be a statement, as you say, they are hard to beat. Given that you say that, I don't think this other comment you made can be true. 18 hours ago, Uncle Fred said: If we don’t [win] I think there will be question marks about the campaign, every season you look back and see that as a pivotal game, I think that game is tonorrow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pugin 601 Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) It won't define our season, but two years ago a game at the Carra against Middlesborough changed and arguably defined our season. For me the glorious 2018-9 season turned on a paper-thin 1-0 win over Boro thanks to a 58th minute goal from Pukki. The goal came just when it seemed that he would never work our way through an organised Tony Pulis' defence. That was the day when for me Daniel Farke's tactical planning finally came to fruition, and the results started to flow. The result only put us up to 16th, but it was champagne and oysters from then on, right through till the end of the Championship-winning season. It was the game after the 1-1 draw at Portman Road, so it quite a defining game for Farke. We could easily have lost at Ipswich, and who's to say that Daniel would have survived a defeat. He was in need of vindication, and the Middlesborough win provided it. Leading into the game, Teemu had scored two winners for Finland in two Nations League games during the international break. I bet that win be in Daniel's mind when he selects his team today 🙂 Edited November 21, 2020 by Pugin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,680 Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Banjoman said: Yes it would be a statement, as you say, they are hard to beat. Given that you say that, I don't think this other comment you made can be true. Aren't boro on a 10 game long unbeaten run right now? Although admittedly they have only scored 9 goals in those matches- But then again that statistically evens out to one expected goal scored per match ratio for them All in all If I was a betting man I would be hedging my bets on a draw I'm guessing a 1-1. Edited November 21, 2020 by cambridgeshire canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,138 Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) I seem to recall similar sentiments expressed about the Swansea game. Each team in this league is capable of presenting problems of their own, whether it be a bus park from some of the lesser units or an attacking threat from the likes of Swansea and (in anticipation) Watford, or even a piece of brilliance of the kind we experienced from Rooney. It's a long season and I am not inclined to define it just yet, except to say that we deserve to be, are and will be amongst the front- runners. 'Boro may or may not be there too but could well fade once the Warnock effect finally wears off. It usually does as his managerial history suggests:- 1980–1981 Gainsborough Trinity 1981–1986 Burton Albion 1986–1989 Scarborough 1989–1993 Notts County 1993 Torquay United 1993–1995 Huddersfield Town 1995–1997 Plymouth Argyle 1997–1998 Oldham Athletic 1998–1999 Bury 1999–2007 Sheffield United 2007–2010 Crystal Palace 2010–2012 Queens Park Rangers 2012–2013 Leeds United 2014 Crystal Palace 2015 Queens Park Rangers (caretaker) 2016 Rotherham United 2016–2019 Cardiff City 2020– Middlesbrough Edited November 21, 2020 by BroadstairsR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted November 21, 2020 It don't think it will define us. I don't think we have clicked yet. I think Rupp and Skipp have done a good job in that area and the three in front of them have enjoyed plenty of ball. Once that three is established and start scoring as well, we could be favourites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canaries north 151 Posted November 21, 2020 As I have said before Bournemouth and Watford fans are saying exactly the same thing about their own teams. They have not clicked or have another gear to go. It's very difficult to look good in this league but as long as we are clinical and fight for the wins we will be there or there abouts. Today will be exactly the same a bit of a fight and take the few chances that come your way. I don't think any game in this decision is defining as they are all winnable and losable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted November 21, 2020 29 minutes ago, Canaries north said: As I have said before Bournemouth and Watford fans are saying exactly the same thing about their own teams. They have not clicked or have another gear to go. It's very difficult to look good in this league but as long as we are clinical and fight for the wins we will be there or there abouts. Today will be exactly the same a bit of a fight and take the few chances that come your way. I don't think any game in this decision is defining as they are all winnable and losable. Think we’re in a better position to say than Bournemouth or Watford supporters as to whether our respective clubs have another level to go to. Both of those clubs have new managers and therefore have nothing to base their assumption on - they simply don’t know yet whether they are playing below themselves or not, but I suspect they’re HOPING they can play better more than anything. It could be that this IS them playing as well as they can under these managers, they are at their best. Us, on the other hand, have been on the Farke journey for some years now, and can claim with confidence that we know for a fact that Farke sides can play even better than we are now, certainly offensively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crafty Canary 495 Posted November 21, 2020 Define our season? What utter tosh whatever result we get today it’s just one game and that’s all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete 318 Posted November 21, 2020 Keeping the current run going is important. Hernandez scored in 1-0 win at Boro right footed shot in corner not Pukki. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barbe bleu 816 Posted November 21, 2020 I feel that the first game back after a break is always important. A win of any description could do much to shape the season. But equally not doing the business away at Middlesbrough is a disappointment that is easily put to back of the head Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivvo 257 Posted November 21, 2020 Surely beating Middlesbrough could relegate us……?🤔 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,202 Posted November 21, 2020 We've usually been pretty good first game after this international break, hopefully it will continue. A win today would be massive, defeat and the manner of defeat could be equally damaging. I'd take a draw but let's not start sticking our head in the sand like we did last season, you can't afford to lose to your rivals and expect success. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,155 Posted November 21, 2020 56 minutes ago, pete said: Keeping the current run going is important. Hernandez scored in 1-0 win at Boro right footed shot in corner not Pukki. He was talking about the HOME game against Boro that season (when Pukki did indeed score). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgncfc 1,223 Posted November 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Alex Moss said: Think we’re in a better position to say than Bournemouth or Watford supporters as to whether our respective clubs have another level to go to. Both of those clubs have new managers and therefore have nothing to base their assumption on - they simply don’t know yet whether they are playing below themselves or not, but I suspect they’re HOPING they can play better more than anything. It could be that this IS them playing as well as they can under these managers, they are at their best. Us, on the other hand, have been on the Farke journey for some years now, and can claim with confidence that we know for a fact that Farke sides can play even better than we are now, certainly offensively. Beating the league leaders after being 2-0 down at half time would suggest that Bournemouth have already found that extra gear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted November 21, 2020 So we are top if we win..... IF 😅 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canaries north 151 Posted November 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Alex Moss said: Think we’re in a better position to say than Bournemouth or Watford supporters as to whether our respective clubs have another level to go to. Both of those clubs have new managers and therefore have nothing to base their assumption on - they simply don’t know yet whether they are playing below themselves or not, but I suspect they’re HOPING they can play better more than anything. It could be that this IS them playing as well as they can under these managers, they are at their best. Us, on the other hand, have been on the Farke journey for some years now, and can claim with confidence that we know for a fact that Farke sides can play even better than we are now, certainly offensively. All I can say is what I hear from my Watford friend but I do tend to agree with him. Any team that at this point in the season is 2nd but is still having players like Deeney, Gray, Capoue, Will Hughes and Sarr being fed in is a team that you would imagine would improve. Yes we can play better but there are other teams who will probably get better as well. Still hoping we improve more 😄 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted November 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, sgncfc said: Beating the league leaders after being 2-0 down at half time would suggest that Bournemouth have already found that extra gear. Great turnaround but let’s not forget despite Reading’s great start to first few weeks of the season, they have since levelled and also conceded 3 goals in each of their previous 3 games to this. I thought Bournemouth looked very vulnerable on the counter attack at the time of posting, and at that point they were - they even went 2-0 down. If that’s their extra gear, then I don’t think they’ll be turning over a side like Swansea, Boro etc but we shall see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Fred 526 Posted November 21, 2020 Not up to the challenge in the first half hopefully more desire in the second Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,722 Posted November 21, 2020 51 minutes ago, Uncle Fred said: Not up to the challenge in the first half hopefully more desire in the second Your wish has been granted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Fred 526 Posted November 21, 2020 I can now confidentially confirm that we will win the league and be promoted It’s all over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,202 Posted November 21, 2020 Monumental win. Top as it stands Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,680 Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Uncle Fred said: I can now confidentially confirm that we will win the league and be promoted It’s all over Whos hacked your account then 'cause this clearly isnt Fred Edited November 21, 2020 by cambridgeshire canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted November 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Uncle Fred said: I can now confidentially confirm that we will win the league and be promoted It’s all over Something’s gone wrong with you these last couple of days. But there’s your turning point, Fred 👏🏆 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Fred 526 Posted November 21, 2020 It is written in the stars folks nothing will stop us now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites