Jools 584 Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) I'm inΒ Β ππ Edited November 2, 2020 by Jools Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jools 584 Posted November 2, 2020 A 'focused protection' policy to protect the most vulnerable so the rest of the population can develop herd immunity and get on with keeping the economy alive as well as thousands of people --- I'll have some of thatΒ π Β 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted November 2, 2020 Grifters have to grift - I assume there is a membership fee to join this latest scam?Β 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,760 Posted November 2, 2020 Oh. Hahaha. Parasites gonna parasite. And Jools falls for it, hook, line and stinker.Β π€£ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,760 Posted November 2, 2020 This is where very poor leadership leads. A big hole for opportunists like Farage to fill.Β 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooreMarriot 310 Posted November 2, 2020 Before you sign up remember the great Brexit Party parliamentaryΒ candidate scam of 2019 where 3000 mugs handed over Β£100 . They never saw their money again. https://bylinetimes.com/2019/07/05/brexit-party-parliamentary-candidates-another-money-making-scheme/ Β 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted November 2, 2020 This nothing but good news, apart from maybe having to see more of theΒ unemployed talk radio DJ. Will only appeal to the elderly, white and lesser educated cohort that Johnson/Cummings hoovered up last year to get their large majority. If it chips a few percentage points off the 39% the Tories currently have that can be nothing be good. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagster 101 Posted November 2, 2020 1 minute ago, BigFish said: This nothing but good news, apart from maybe having to see more of theΒ unemployed talk radio DJ. Will only appeal to the elderly, white and lesser educated cohort that Johnson/Cummings hoovered up last year to get their large majority. If it chips a few percentage points off the 39% the Tories currently have that can be nothing be good. So your going to sweep the board with a freshly invigorated United labour party? Is that with or without Corbyn? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagster 101 Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) I'm in The reform party it is Doris has proved himself as out of touch as BigFish π and by the way it changes nothing, just makes a coalition more likely Edited November 2, 2020 by Bagster Addition 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,605 Posted November 2, 2020 6 hours ago, Surfer said: Grifters have to grift - I assume there is a membership fee to join this latest scam?Β Yep, Nigel's found his latest opportunist scam and the usual types unquestioningly jump on board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,940 Posted November 2, 2020 Farage does make a fair point that our electoral models are antiquated and not fit for purpose. I've said several times that our first-past-the-post election model is outdated, undemocratic, and effectively useless. This is one of those cases where as much as I rarely agree with him, this is one where I do. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,605 Posted November 2, 2020 20 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said: Farage does make a fair point that our electoral models are antiquated and not fit for purpose. I've said several times that our first-past-the-post election model is outdated, undemocratic, and effectively useless. This is one of those cases where as much as I rarely agree with him, this is one where I do. Yeah I agree with that at least- as much as I don't like their policies it was a scandal that UKIP got nearly 4m votes in 2015 but only 1 seat, while the SNP got under 3m votes yet ended up with 56 seats. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NFN FC 1,123 Posted November 2, 2020 The system does need an overhaul for sure but this 'Reform' party isn't the answer. We have had two party politics for far too long with these two groups of idiots leading the country. It's not likely to ever change though as they'll hold on to power for as long as they can. I can't see a way to get a change in voting system through parliament.Β Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,300 Posted November 2, 2020 It's called the Reform Party because all its members are required to be ex-Reform school in-mates. Great news for Labour! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted November 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Bagster said: So your going to sweep the board with a freshly invigorated United labour party? Is that with or without Corbyn? If RUK get above 10% support, yes it will be board sweeping time (without Corbyn) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,940 Posted November 2, 2020 1 hour ago, NFN FC said: The system does need an overhaul for sure but this 'Reform' party isn't the answer. We have had two party politics for far too long with these two groups of idiots leading the country. It's not likely to ever change though as they'll hold on to power for as long as they can. I can't see a way to get a change in voting system through parliament.Β Needs the LibDems to come on strong, like when we had the AV referendum. Problem was that AV was the proposed idea and not full proportional representation or indeed my preference of going full Swiss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,517 Posted November 2, 2020 I believe there is a lot of recruiting potential on the main Coronavirus thread given a lot of posters' views of lockdown. Maybe Farage has hit upon a big seam of discontent if that thread is reflective of the population. I know, according to polls, that 72% of the population support the lockdown (YouGov) but that leaves a large minority.Β 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NFN FC 1,123 Posted November 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said: Needs the LibDems to come on strong, like when we had the AV referendum. Problem was that AV was the proposed idea and not full proportional representation or indeed my preference of going full Swiss. The Swiss system does seem to get people really involved in decision making Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,940 Posted November 2, 2020 Just now, NFN FC said: The Swiss system does seem to get people really involved in decision making More pertinently, it gets those involved who are interested and therefore more likely to be reasonably informed. If you're not that interested in the topic matter, no worries, as there'll be another referendum soon enough on a topic you may have more interest in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Apples 1,320 Posted November 2, 2020 3 hours ago, MooreMarriot said: Before you sign up remember the great Brexit Party parliamentaryΒ candidate scam of 2019 where 3000 mugs handed over Β£100 . They never saw their money again. Fools and their money are soon parted. π€π€£ Apples 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted November 2, 2020 Maybe they will be getting our doctors and nurses to leave the U.K. and return home to Europe just before a pandemic. Hindsight hey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NFN FC 1,123 Posted November 2, 2020 29 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said: More pertinently, it gets those involved who are interested and therefore more likely to be reasonably informed. If you're not that interested in the topic matter, no worries, as there'll be another referendum soon enough on a topic you may have more interest in. Unfortunately to try to get anything like that through parliament would be near on impossible!Β Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,940 Posted November 2, 2020 22 minutes ago, NFN FC said: Unfortunately to try to get anything like that through parliament would be near on impossible!Β Sure. For as long as politicians and the electorate want fundamentally opposite things, that will happen. Politicians want safe seats. The electorate wants their party to have a chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icecream Snow 761 Posted November 2, 2020 David Lammy sums it up well for me Β 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,783 Posted November 2, 2020 28 minutes ago, Icecream Snow said: David Lammy sums it up well for me Β Β I would think thatΒ many a 'Brexit' voter may be questioning themselves as to what theyΒ actually have in common with Farage. Seeds of self doubt I wouldΒ guess are sprouting in the mindsΒ of many - especially the nostalgic elderly. Arh wellΒ - three score years and ten seems about right π That Farage, Tice areΒ little 'Trumps' and as shallow, destructiveΒ and self-centred should come as no surprise to anybody rational.Β Perhaps theyΒ should have an initiation ceremony / right of passage where they are all given Covid and packet of paracetamol on a remote isolated island - we can come back in a month or 6 weeks to pick up the 'worthy' survivors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,162 Posted November 2, 2020 They're going to hold some rallies in corridors of 4 star hotels currently housing asylum seekers, entry will be Β£50 you can upgrade to a 'meet and greet' package* for Β£500. Strictly payments in advance no refunds available. Β Β Β Β Β Β * There's no guarantee that you'll meet anyone called Farage.Β Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,760 Posted November 2, 2020 3 hours ago, horsefly said: It's called the Reform Party because all its members are required to be ex-Reform school in-mates. Great news for Labour! Cheap ham from the supermarket is reformed. Maybe that's where they got the idea from.Β 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted November 2, 2020 https://yougov.co.uk/topics/health/articles-reports/2020/11/01/snap-poll-72-english-people-back-prime-ministers-p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites