cambridgeshire canary 6,674 Posted October 22, 2020 And to think we all doubted him đŸ˜‰ I'll put my hands and admit to being rather happy to say i was wrong about him and that this humble pie does indeed taste pretty good  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,632 Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) ‘We’ all doubted him?  Not here. He maybe wasn’t right to go straight into the PL but never looked as bad as some liked to make out. Edited October 22, 2020 by Branston Pickle 7 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Fred 526 Posted October 22, 2020 I never understood the hate against him was not given the chance last year to get settled whilst others get a free ride by some fans  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flying Dutchman 744 Posted October 22, 2020 Who's 'we'? Speak for yourself. Some of us didn't write him off the moment he joined a side struggling at the bottom of the Prem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jerrykerry 223 Posted October 22, 2020 We didn't all doubt him. It was blindingly obvious to anyone with eyes and a brain last season he was quality, but played out of position in a team being over run every week. Now, suddenly, the pinkun forum football geniuses start to realise their usual blind hate and attacks on a player are wrong.... Again! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,488 Posted October 22, 2020 I thought Rupp struggled in the PL but so did most of our team. It was always unfair to single him out. Pukki has badly struggled for some time now but fans stay off his back because of his past exploits. I'm pleased folk are starting to re-assess. Some players need a while to settle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,577 Posted October 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, Jerrykerry said: We didn't all doubt him. It was blindingly obvious to anyone with eyes and a brain last season he was quality, but played out of position in a team being over run every week. Now, suddenly, the pinkun forum football geniuses start to realise their usual blind hate and attacks on a player are wrong.... Again! It was obvious he wasn't a right winger. It wasn't obvious he was 'quality' though- certainly not at Premier League level. He looked like what he is- a decent Championship central midfielder inexplicably being used as a Premier League attacking midfielder. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor Hockey's Beard 526 Posted October 22, 2020 But who will be our scapegoat now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fr. Chewy Louie 137 Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Trevor Hockey's Beard said: But who will be our scapegoat now? I reckon Quintilla's up next 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark .Y. 351 Posted October 22, 2020 Well deserved, I thought he had a great game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,116 Posted October 22, 2020 Why does the Team of the Week play 4-5-1? Frankly this type of reliance on a single format is a jook, where's the plan B? Looks far too rigid, sort it out Ivic!  1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenerationA47 747 Posted October 22, 2020 Well done Lukas, richly deserved. Also spotting a cheeky ex-Canary at left-back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walidd 0 Posted October 23, 2020 Â It was always unfair to single him out. Pukki has badly struggled for some time now but fans stay off his back because of his past exploits. I'm pleased folk are starting to re-assess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardhouse44 261 Posted October 23, 2020 On 22/10/2020 at 12:30, Jerrykerry said: We didn't all doubt him. It was blindingly obvious to anyone with eyes and a brain last season he was quality, but played out of position in a team being over run every week. Now, suddenly, the pinkun forum football geniuses start to realise their usual blind hate and attacks on a player are wrong.... Again! F@#£ Sake lets calm down. He’s had a couple of ok performances and played well on Tuesday night. Hardly ready for a hall of fame place. Well done to the guy but that all so far.  You do get carried away son. Need to put it away and pull yer pants up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted October 24, 2020 Harry Toffolo in it as well. Think he can feel very hard done by to have been discarded and replaced by James Husband! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 746 Posted October 24, 2020 21 hours ago, walidd said: Â It was always unfair to single him out. Pukki has badly struggled for some time now but fans stay off his back because of his past exploits. I'm pleased folk are starting to re-assess. Â Â Â 192.168.100.1 192.168.1.1 jpg to pdf Watch Pukki off the ball, whoever criticises him should learn about football. He may not have the goals, but his movement is excellent. He was unlucky with a slip the other week, Cantwell should have squared it to him Tues and his one twos were good against Rotherham. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Number9 272 Posted October 24, 2020 20 minutes ago, Dr Greenthumb said: Watch Pukki off the ball, whoever criticises him should learn about football. He may not have the goals, but his movement is excellent. He was unlucky with a slip the other week, Cantwell should have squared it to him Tues and his one twos were good against Rotherham. I agree with what you say, think about it from the point of view of the midfielders who are sat on the bench or can't get in the squad, yet Pukki might be keeping them out of the team because he can't do his own job? Do the other players expect him to be scoring and does it affect the dynamic of the team? I stress that this is devils advocate country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,577 Posted October 24, 2020 2 hours ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Harry Toffolo in it as well. Think he can feel very hard done by to have been discarded and replaced by James Husband! That one sits with Alex Neil. He let him stagnate and chose to play Whittaker at left back instead of him. Think the change of scenery was needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,615 Posted October 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, king canary said: That one sits with Alex Neil. He let him stagnate and chose to play Whittaker at left back instead of him. Think the change of scenery was needed. Nothing I've seen of Toffolo makes me think he's any more than a lower half championship player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 746 Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Number9 said: I agree with what you say, think about it from the point of view of the midfielders who are sat on the bench or can't get in the squad, yet Pukki might be keeping them out of the team because he can't do his own job? Do the other players expect him to be scoring and does it affect the dynamic of the team? I stress that this is devils advocate country. The same could be said about a few players though. Buendia has scored 1 in 42, Hugill has only netted a penalty, Cantwell never creates goals. 0 goals in central midfield (from starters).  Yet Placheta and Vrancic are both sat on the bench with better conversion rates.  Pukki started the last championship season as number 10 and Rhodes was supposed to lead the line that season, so he can play there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,577 Posted October 24, 2020 33 minutes ago, hogesar said: Nothing I've seen of Toffolo makes me think he's any more than a lower half championship player. Well, he's currently starting in a top half Championship team so.... đŸ˜‰ I do get what you're saying but I think he could have been a useful player here. One of the big things Webber highlighted when he joined was about the lack of joined up thinking and pathway from the youth teams to the first team- I'd say Tofollo is a great example of that. Constantly loaned out while we cycled through a bunch of left backs who mainly didn't prove to be much better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted October 24, 2020 47 minutes ago, hogesar said: Nothing I've seen of Toffolo makes me think he's any more than a lower half championship player. Yeah but nothing we saw of his £1m replacement made any of us think that James Husband should be a professional footballer at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,615 Posted October 24, 2020 Just now, TeemuVanBasten said: Yeah but nothing we saw of his £1m replacement made any of us think that James Husband should be a professional footballer at all. I mean yeah, fair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,195 Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) I assume Rupp was was signed with one eye on the Championship because there was no way he was going to help us avoid relegation. He is doing well now and long may it continue, but it begs the question IF we get promoted, what use will he be? For me as soon as McLean was dropped we saw the best of Rupp. You cannot play them both together whatever league we are in. Edited October 24, 2020 by Capt. Pants Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Disco Dales Jockstrap 1,891 Posted October 24, 2020 16 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said: I assume Rupp was was signed with one eye on the Championship because there was no way he was going to help us avoid relegation. He is doing well now and long may it continue, but it begs the question IF we get promoted, what use will he be? For me as soon as McLean was dropped we saw the best of Rupp. You cannot play them both together whatever league we are in. Rupp is basically Tommy Trybull/McLean mark 2 for me. Does all of the general aspects of midfield play to a decent standard at Championship level but doesn't excel in one area. Personally, I'd always prefer to have someone who truly is master of their skill area (a Tettey/Vrancic/Leitner) than a jack of all but I can see why Farke would take the more pragmatic option. OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites