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[BroadstairsR 2,273]

In these times of viewing football in the days of Covid 19 attendance records should perhaps also include IFollow subscriptions, especially as a portion of the money paid goes to the club, as we know.

Has, or will there ever be, an announcement as to just how many subscriptions there were for a game? I would guess quite a lot for Saturday's game against The Millers and it consequently being a decent earner for the club; or at least some consolation for otherwise lost revenue.

It would be interesting to know the total.

On the subject of IFollow, what was it like for this latest game? Anybody  have any of the usual problems or have they finally been ironed out?

I am keen to use the service but, as previously posted, am reluctant to fork out a tenner for ninety minutes of a blank screen and the buffering thingy that I was presented with the last time around.

It's getting on for £500 that I would be likely to spend, with a lot of that going to the club, and in the meantime I settled for the one free, jittery stream that was available and the hassle of reloading constantly. Being surrounded by pin-ups rather than whingeing fans was an improvement, I suppose 👅 

My visits to Carrow Road were hitherto down to one per season. Multiply myself by a few thousand and that's a lot of revenue that the club would benefit from due to the virus that it would otherwise not have got.

Taking this to it's logical conclusion and taking into account the vast number of "country" supporters that the club has (there are many on here it seems) then is there any reason why the Carrow Road coffers should lose out much despite an empty stadium? They might even gain dosh!

That the whole enterprise seems to be run by amateurs is likely to be detrimental to this income stream however.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 19, 2020 by BroadstairsR

[sgncfc 1,330]

I've watched every game so far on iFollow and it's been mostly fine. For the first game the Radio Norfolk commentary was a few seconds behind but that was fixed by game two. Everything is still about 10 seconds behind "live" so I knew Hugill had scored the pen before he took it from the BBC goal alert. The picture isn't great quality but it's better than any stream I've ever seen and I don't get any buffering.

I have Virgin broadband which is above 200mbps download so that probably helps.

I think for £10 a game it's a bargain, and I get to see away games I would never have seen otherwise. The home games are effectively free for ST holders so for £230 this season I will see every game.

I'm so off the EPL though that I am about to cancel Sky Sports and BT Sport and rely on MOTD. Over the season I'll end up in pocket and will have watched the football I want to see. I just hope we don't go back up again......!!

[Well b back 3,603]

Except the first week with the sound being out of sync no problems, our broadband with SKY. We have it on TV with a lead purchased from amazon. I would say the lag is more like a minute, however so is any stream and even Skysports is a few seconds behind ( presumably to help the betting industry ).

If there was therefore one problem I would say don’t have skysports on whilst watching as you will know what has happened before it happens.

[BroadstairsR 2,273]

"I think for £10 a game it's a bargain, ...."

Me too, and furthermore although the availability of live games at 3 O'Clock (Saturday) for the "home" audience came about due to unfortunate circumstances, I feel that this marks a significant turning point in the future of the media's role for the viewing of live games.

For all their faults, including the moral aspect, of illegal streams they do seem to have improved a lot over the seasons and seem to encourage such a significant number of participants that something had to give eventually.  All other fan's forums ditto our own in that  links are regualrly posted on match days.

Clubs, particularly in the Championship and below might well come to the conclusion that live IFollow for all of their games might actually increase revenue rather than detract from it.

Live attendances might actually not suffer that much as the match day experience includes much more than just viewing the game on a small screen. If they do then what's a few less meat pies against a lucrative laptop audience?

Q. Is IFollow here to stay now?

Edited October 19, 2020 by BroadstairsR

[BroadstairsR 2,273]

It does seem to be largely local factors that come into force when it fails, but surely this must, in some, way trace back to the provider? My "**** Galore" streaming service has fewer problems. 

I had one excellent showing and one total no-show ... both TalkTalk and both on my Chromebook.

I'll give it another try now. I have a PC as well so it might be necessary to have both tuned up and ready, if this is possible.

Edited October 19, 2020 by BroadstairsR

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,613]

46 minutes ago, sgncfc said:

I think for £10 a game it's a bargain

I certainly don't, when you look at other sports packages available.

I subscribe to the Italian version of DAZN, and for €9.99 a month you get ALL Serie B matches, three Serie A matches per round, four or five games each from the top flights in Spain, France, Netherlands and the MLS, one or two from The Championship, the Europa League, all darts majors, all big UFC and boxing events (including those that are PPV in the UK), NFL, NBA, Moto GP, all big snooker events and some other stuff I've forgotten.

In the UK, for the same price, you get one match of Championship football.

I've heard that DAZN in other countries where it's available has similar packages for a similar cost. Hopefully it comes to the UK sometime soon.

It's also worth noting that if you buy all Norwich games for a month, it would cost circa £50. For a similar price you get Sky Sports, which contains dozens of live games.

The only good thing about iFollow is that 70% of the money goes to the club. The reliability of the product, the customer service and the value for money are all terrible.

[BroadstairsR 2,273]

Bluetits Galore.

So there.

How's about Pinktits?

Edited October 19, 2020 by BroadstairsR

[BroadstairsR 2,273]

"The only good thing about iFollow is that 70% of the money goes to the club."

You have a point about comparative costs, but surely your  above reference is fundamental to all this. The fan/viewer is essentially  able to become a 'by proxy,' paying supporter on a regular basis.

This is marvellous for exiles.

The service does need improving all-round, agreed. 

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,613]

2 minutes ago, BroadstairsR said:

"The only good thing about iFollow is that 70% of the money goes to the club."

You have a point about comparative costs, but surely your  above reference is fundamental to all this. The fan/viewer is essentially  able to become a 'by proxy,' paying supporter on a regular basis.

This is marvellous for exiles.

The service does need improving all-round, agreed. 

If I wanted to give money to the club, instead of paying £50 a month for a crap service with £35 going to the club, I'd rather a streaming service that provides all games (and more) for £10 then buy something from the club shop.

[BroadstairsR 2,273]

2 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

If I wanted to give money to the club, instead of paying £50 a month for a crap service with £35 going to the club, I'd rather a streaming service that provides all games (and more) for £10 then buy something from the club shop.

Who wouldn't?

It's agreed that the service needs improving, but personally and given this improvement comes about, I would happily pay that amount per game, with may be a discount for the season or for a package of games.

I feel most exiles might agree, especially as none of us has a club shop nearby.

The fact that it is morally superior to streams, safer than them and legal might well serve to scupper these  as far as the provision of online football in this country goes, but the fact that they exist might well indicate that the cost of an IFollow screening might well have to be tempered. Many will still prefer a feebie for reasons of finance so there is a need for IFollow to get it's pricing (of packages?) right.

 

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,613]

2 minutes ago, BroadstairsR said:

I feel most exiles might agree, especially as none of us has a club shop nearby.

You know the biggest one is online, right? 😉

[Capt. Pants 5,001]

Paying an additional £10 for games when I'm already stumping over £40 a month to the bank of NCFC for a ST I can't use is not a bargain in my view. So I don't.

It would be good if the club provides visibility on what it earns from iFollow subscriptions.

 

[Nuff Said 5,957]

I’ve used iFollow twice, both after the match had started, and both on a different ISP (min. advertised speed of 76Mb/s). It’s been absolutely fine both times. It sounds to me as if there were, understandably, teething problems the first week and these are largely resolved.

 

On the price, I’ve also thought this could end up costing me over £400, which is a significant amount. But I don’t think this is comparable to a more general sport subscription, it’s more like a less good match ticket. On the positive side, it’s additional revenue for the club. But I don’t see why the club couldn’t offer an iFollow season ticket.

[BroadstairsR 2,273]

20 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

You know the biggest one is online, right? 😉

OOps!

 

Didn't know that. Not one for regailia and ****-tat for myself though, but I have youngsters to think about. Those that don't support Citeh, that is.

[Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,424]

4 minutes ago, Nuff Said said:

I’ve used iFollow twice, both after the match had started, and both on a different ISP (min. advertised speed of 76Mb/s). It’s been absolutely fine both times. It sounds to me as if there were, understandably, teething problems the first week and these are largely resolved.

 

On the price, I’ve also thought this could end up costing me over £400, which is a significant amount. But I don’t think this is comparable to a more general sport subscription, it’s more like a less good match ticket. On the positive side, it’s additional revenue for the club. But I don’t see why the club couldn’t offer an iFollow season ticket.

That isn't allowed under the agreement between the EFL and Sky who own the rights. Every club has to charge the exact same amount and can't offer discounts to bundles. 

iFollow and the showing of games is not being run by clubs and the process is largely out of their hands. 

[BroadstairsR 2,273]

10 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

Paying an additional £10 for games when I'm already stumping over £40 a month to the bank of NCFC for a ST I can't use is not a bargain in my view. So I don't.

It would be good if the club provides visibility on what it earns from iFollow subscriptions.

 

 

Don't season ticket holders get IFollow free? I thought they did. They should do and it should include away games to compensate for missing out on the match day experience.

[wcorkcanary 4,779]

2 hours ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

You know the biggest one is online, right? 😉

By the time you convert to local currency and add postage , the Club shop is really quite expensive.

[Felixfan 53]

I have no problem watching on my I pad. Great to see a 3pm away game with radio Norfolk commentary for a tenner. Other than travelling to Rotherham what more could you want?

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,613]

26 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said:

By the time you convert to local currency and add postage , the Club shop is really quite expensive.

All club shops are ridiculously expensive, no matter the club, currency or location!

[Jim Smith 2,598]

It seems to work better on i-pads and i-phones than on certain other devices. or at least for me it does anyway. 

[city4eva 241]

Works fine for me. Laptop hooked up  to the TV via HDMI cable. . Pic quality is adequate and of course radio Norfolk commentary is what it is. No buffering 

[Dr Greenthumb 789]

2 hours ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said:

That isn't allowed under the agreement between the EFL and Sky who own the rights. Every club has to charge the exact same amount and can't offer discounts to bundles. 

iFollow and the showing of games is not being run by clubs and the process is largely out of their hands. 

It’s annoying, because internationally, you can buy a season pass. I guess you could get around it with a decent VPN.

[Dr Greenthumb 789]

23 minutes ago, Felixfan said:

I have no problem watching on my I pad. Great to see a 3pm away game with radio Norfolk commentary for a tenner. Other than travelling to Rotherham what more could you want?

I got Rotherham commentary Saturday and I purchased the pass through the canaries website, I had to mute them. Everything was a “definite foul” or the “the ref has got that wrong” for decisions that didn’t go their way.

[city4eva 241]

14 minutes ago, Dr Greenthumb said:

I got Rotherham commentary Saturday and I purchased the pass through the canaries website, I had to mute them. Everything was a “definite foul” or the “the ref has got that wrong” for decisions that didn’t go their way.

You can change the commentary to home , can’t remember how but I did it the first away game I watched

[wcorkcanary 4,779]

6 minutes ago, city4eva said:

You can change the commentary to home , can’t remember how but I did it the first away game I watched

Click on settings cog button, click audio  , select away( for away games of course) . Done.

[Dr Greenthumb 789]

22 minutes ago, city4eva said:

You can change the commentary to home , can’t remember how but I did it the first away game I watched

Ah ok, I will have a mess around with it next game, cheers for that.

[Dr Greenthumb 789]

15 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said:

Click on settings cog button, click audio  , select away( for away games of course) . Done.

Cheers mate, that helps! Like the radio Norfolk commentary.

[Nuff Said 5,957]

1 hour ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

All club shops are ridiculously expensive, no matter the club, currency or location!

You beat me to it! £50 for what is to all intents and purposes a T-shirt is outrageous.

[wcorkcanary 4,779]

37 minutes ago, Nuff Said said:

You beat me to it! £50 for what is to all intents and purposes a T-shirt is outrageous.

God knows what my little garden Gnome ( 50 th birthday  present) cost. He could do with a lick of paint now. 

[hogesar 10,754]

I've not had a problem  across any device.

I suggest people ensure they have adequate Internet speed (doesn't need to be anything special), they use the latest iteration of either Google Chrome or Edge (both are webkit browsers, I'm sure Firefox would work also), and finally that things like graphics drivers etc are up to date as a last resort.

The only other thing I can think of, if you still can't get it to work, is temporarily disable any firewall incase its blocking certain ports required for the stream transmission.