Official: Klose Leaves

[zema abbey football genius 34]

1 hour ago, king canary said:

If we don't our defence looks like this...

Aarons (excellent)

Byran (injury prone)

Mumba (unproven)

Gibson (no football in nearly 2 years)

Zimmerman (injured most of last season, not looking in great form so far)

Hanley (injury prone)

Quintilla (looks decent, no backup)

A total of 7 defenders, with question marks against a number of them.

That would be suicidal. 

If Webber was any good, he could have got a fringe player from Everton on loan as part of the Godfrey deal...

nkounkou would have been great.

 

Just saying 😎

[Doomcaster 10]

Thank you Timm - you done very well for NCFC, whilst fit over your first few seasons with NCFC

But a lack of recent matches or even match day selection, along with your regular injuries were a real problem over the past 2 seasons

Hope it all goes well for you back home 

Good player when fit & on form = yes.  Legend NCFC = no where near

[NFN FC 1,123]

Decent player. I wish him all the best! 

Header against binners was the highlight. Closely followed by the time he left the Pornhub tab on screen in a photo, good lad! 

[Doomcaster 10]

19 minutes ago, zema abbey football genius said:

If Webber was any good, he could have got a fringe player from Everton on loan as part of the Godfrey deal...

nkounkou would have been great.

 

Just saying 😎

Agree - we need to BUY at least 2 decent & currently non injury prone players, to help out our leaky defense

NCFC has LOADS of cash to spend

Please stop all the excuses 'we have no money' - after 50 years plus of supporting NCFC - I am 100% fed up with it, & the excuses given by all Senior people in charge 

[Jerrykerry 223]

You'd expect something is in the oven to sanction this. 

To go with what we now have would be an insulting suicide trip for Farke. 

But it does rsther depend on what now happens with aarons.... 

[Duncan Edwards 2,219]

15 minutes ago, Doomcaster said:

Agree - we need to BUY at least 2 decent & currently non injury prone players, to help out our leaky defense

NCFC has LOADS of cash to spend

Please stop all the excuses 'we have no money' - after 50 years plus of supporting NCFC - I am 100% fed up with it, & the excuses given by all Senior people in charge 

And where do you think the money will come from?

Just been relegated and COVID decimating our income and we've already splashed the cash in signing 11 players this window. Can't imagine there's much sloshing around the hambag. 

[Terminally Yellow 2,448]

8 minutes ago, Jerrykerry said:

You'd expect something is in the oven to sanction this. 

To go with what we now have would be an insulting suicide trip for Farke. 

But it does rsther depend on what now happens with aarons.... 

Michael Bailey suggesting nothing on the way. I wouldn't expect anything despite agreeing we could now use another central defender.

28 minutes ago, Doomcaster said:

Agree - we need to BUY at least 2 decent & currently non injury prone players, to help out our leaky defense

NCFC has LOADS of cash to spend

Please stop all the excuses 'we have no money' - after 50 years plus of supporting NCFC - I am 100% fed up with it, & the excuses given by all Senior people in charge 

Have to agree with the later posts. The money brought in has paid for the club's spending thus far and now the COVID losses.

We don't have loads of cash to spend whatsoever.

Edited October 7, 2020 by Terminally Yellow

[king canary 7,578]

10 minutes ago, Duncan Edwards said:

And where do you think the money will come from?

Just been relegated and COVID decimating our income and we've already splashed the cash in signing 11 players this window. Can't imagine there's much sloshing around the hambag. 

• We still have parachute payments
• We've sold £50m worth of players reportedly, while we've spent significantly less on incomings
• Our players all reportedly had 50% wage cuts and we no longer have Duda and at least a % of Klose's wages on the books
• We had Premier League money last season with barely any spent

Why would we not have at least some money in the bank?

[Duncan Edwards 2,219]

2 minutes ago, king canary said:

• We still have parachute payments
• We've sold £50m worth of players reportedly, while we've spent significantly less on incomings
• Our players all reportedly had 50% wage cuts and we no longer have Duda and at least a % of Klose's wages on the books
• We had Premier League money last season with barely any spent

Why would we not have at least some money in the bank?

Didn't say there wasn't any.

We don't however know how long that is going to have to support us. We're not going to go on a mad spree - well, any type of spree - with so many unknowns floating around. Omobamidele will be the option at CB if required, I reckon. 

 

 

[Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557]

I would imagine the club will look to 'be awake' (as Farke used to say in previous windows) to any potential loans coming out of the Premier League but may not aggressively pursue any. Omobamidele has been earmarked for a while it seems as a player who could step up to the first team.

While Norwich do have money in the bank, they also have a significant wage bill and more players on it than they will have surely hoped for - the clubs largest earner is set to spend the next 3 month kicking around with the U23s it seems - so there will have to be some sacrifices and risks taking in other areas.

'Paying for the sins of the past' - is another apt Farke quote.

[Canary Wundaboy 1,358]

13 minutes ago, Duncan Edwards said:

Didn't say there wasn't any.

We don't however know how long that is going to have to support us. We're not going to go on a mad spree - well, any type of spree - with so many unknowns floating around. Omobamidele will be the option at CB if required, I reckon. 

 

 

Who's asking for a "mad spree"? One CB is not too much to ask! We brought in Gibson and looked well-stocked, now 3(?!) CBs are gone again and we're well under-stocked even before any injuries crop up. 

[Branston Pickle 3,636]

Yes, Webber was happy to slate others but is potentially going to have the same sort of situation: the point is that decisions are made in the here and now.  If they made sense at the time (most other than Naismith probably did), people coming in later and using hindsight to ‘dis’ them is not big or clever. 

What’s the situation re our squad and whether the 3 could be included?  Presumably if there’s space they can be named and used?

 

[Canary Wundaboy 1,358]

8 minutes ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said:

'Paying for the sins of the past' - is another apt Farke quote.

We've paid for the "sins of the past". We're currently paying for the "failure of last season", but you won't hear that in the club's narrative!

[cambridgeshire canary 6,675]

3 hours ago, Capt. Pants said:

Didn't turn out how we wanted largely due to injury. To describe it as an unmitigated failure is just ridiculous.

If it wasn't for Klose Ipswich would have beaten us.

 

Therefore Klose is an absolute club icon and was worth every penny

[Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557]

4 minutes ago, Canary Wundaboy said:

We've paid for the "sins of the past". We're currently paying for the "failure of last season", but you won't hear that in the club's narrative!

That is the past I was referring to...

[king canary 7,578]

16 minutes ago, Duncan Edwards said:

Didn't say there wasn't any.

We don't however know how long that is going to have to support us. We're not going to go on a mad spree - well, any type of spree - with so many unknowns floating around. Omobamidele will be the option at CB if required, I reckon. 

 

 

We don't need a spree though, we need to address a glaring weakness.

Right now we've got 6 fit defenders listed in the first team squad. One of those spent last season on loan at South Shields. Two of our three central defenders spent most of last season on the treatment table, the third has barely kicked a ball in two years. We're about to go into one of the most demanding seasons we've ever seen in terms of fixture congestion and the team is expected to be challenging at the top of the table. It isn't some wild suggestion to say this needs addressing.

Now, of course, the club could take a gamble on Sorenson showing himself to be good in central defence, or Omobamidele stepping up smoothly or Mumba covering both fullback roles and if it pays off then good for us.

In my opinion though, the risks of doing that far outweigh the risks of spending a bit on strengthening the defence.  

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,777]

Going into a full season with just Gibson, Zimmermann, Hanley and a young Omobamidele who has never played senior football as specialist centre back options and Quintilla as the only specialist left back would be insane. 

We need another centre back and another left back and it would be negligent to not get them.

[TheGunnShow 5,932]

I'd be happier with another centre-half, but aren't Famewo and Bushiri both on loans where they can be recalled? If they're looking good on loan it would make sense to haul the one looking better back in as they'd also be match fit.

[seanthecanary 168]

13 minutes ago, king canary said:

We don't need a spree though, we need to address a glaring weakness.

Right now we've got 6 fit defenders listed in the first team squad. One of those spent last season on loan at South Shields. Two of our three central defenders spent most of last season on the treatment table, the third has barely kicked a ball in two years. We're about to go into one of the most demanding seasons we've ever seen in terms of fixture congestion and the team is expected to be challenging at the top of the table. It isn't some wild suggestion to say this needs addressing.

Now, of course, the club could take a gamble on Sorenson showing himself to be good in central defence, or Omobamidele stepping up smoothly or Mumba covering both fullback roles and if it pays off then good for us.

In my opinion though, the risks of doing that far outweigh the risks of spending a bit on strengthening the defence.  

I would say that's fair.  On top of that, the squad is somewhat lopsided to me.  We could put a team made up of mostly, if not all central midfielders right now, we have 4 senior strikers for a side that only ever starts with one yet defence seems a bit thin.  

Edited October 7, 2020 by seanthecanary

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,777]

1 minute ago, TheGunnShow said:

I'd be happier with another centre-half, but aren't Famewo and Bushiri both on loans where they can be recalled? If they're looking good on loan it would make sense to haul the one looking better back in as they'd also be match fit.

Loans can't be cancelled/recalled outside of transfer windows which rules out Bushiri, and I don't think they can be recalled within 28 days of the start of the loan, which would rule out Famewo.

[TheGunnShow 5,932]

1 minute ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

Loans can't be cancelled/recalled outside of transfer windows which rules out Bushiri, and I don't think they can be recalled within 28 days of the start of the loan, which would rule out Famewo.

OK, but let's see we get an injury in a month's time? We could then theoretically take Famewo back, right?

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,777]

Just now, TheGunnShow said:

OK, but let's see we get an injury in a month's time? We could then theoretically take Famewo back, right?

No, because it would be outside a transfer window.

[Duncan Edwards 2,219]

28 minutes ago, king canary said:

We don't need a spree though, we need to address a glaring weakness.

Right now we've got 6 fit defenders listed in the first team squad. One of those spent last season on loan at South Shields. Two of our three central defenders spent most of last season on the treatment table, the third has barely kicked a ball in two years. We're about to go into one of the most demanding seasons we've ever seen in terms of fixture congestion and the team is expected to be challenging at the top of the table. It isn't some wild suggestion to say this needs addressing.

Now, of course, the club could take a gamble on Sorenson showing himself to be good in central defence, or Omobamidele stepping up smoothly or Mumba covering both fullback roles and if it pays off then good for us.

In my opinion though, the risks of doing that far outweigh the risks of spending a bit on strengthening the defence.  

Don't forget Tettey. There's always Tettey. 

[Thirsty Lizard 3,155]

1 hour ago, king canary said:

• We still have parachute payments
• We've sold £50m worth of players reportedly, while we've spent significantly less on incomings
• Our players all reportedly had 50% wage cuts and we no longer have Duda and at least a % of Klose's wages on the books
• We had Premier League money last season with barely any spent

Why would we not have at least some money in the bank?

No, No we haven't!! The reported fee for Lewis was £15 million. The reported fee for Godfrey was £25 million of which £2.5 million goes to York.

That means we've got £37.5 million (or thereabouts) for those two players. 

I love the way you're just casually £12.5 million out just to try and make a point. 

[king canary 7,578]

2 minutes ago, Thirsty Lizard said:

No, No we haven't!! The reported fee for Lewis was £15 million. The reported fee for Godfrey was £25 million of which £2.5 million goes to York.

That means we've got £37.5 million (or thereabouts) for those two players. 

I love the way you're just casually £12.5 million out just to try and make a point. 

Yep my bad- I meant £40m not £50m. Reportedly they could go up to £50m though.

[king canary 7,578]

6 minutes ago, Duncan Edwards said:

Don't forget Tettey. There's always Tettey. 

I remember Tettey, I also remember he isn't very good in central defence. 

[Canary Wundaboy 1,358]

7 minutes ago, Duncan Edwards said:

Don't forget Tettey. There's always Tettey. 

For the last time, Tettey is not a CB. 

[Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557]

1 minute ago, king canary said:

Yep my bad- I meant £40m not £50m. Reportedly they could go up to £50m though.

I think it is actually £35m initially, which could go up to £45m if all the add ons are triggered.

[chicken 2,604]

1 hour ago, Terminally Yellow said:

Michael Bailey suggesting nothing on the way. I wouldn't expect anything despite agreeing we could now use another central defender.

Was Michael Bailey's comment in relation to today or a couple of days ago. When he says nothing on the way, that suggests in the next 24/48, journo's don't always get much more of an inkling on moves. Could be something is going on behind the scenes he simply doesn't know about.

[hogesar 9,618]

I guess we're going to likely play it 'safe' in terms of spending as we're not sure how long we'll be suffering from Coronavirus, and linked to that is we have a big wage bill at the moment with a selection of players we probably thought initially would be easy enough to move on. 

With wage commitments to so many players I can't see us spending any significant money but a short-term commitment such as a loan makes perfect sense to me.