Making Plans 936 Posted September 20, 2020 1,000 supporters in a stadium that holds 27,000. Surely thay could/should have been spaced out more than that 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggy 752 Posted September 20, 2020 I did think the same when I saw the highlights. Presume they wanted to minimise areas that might need deep cleaning afterwards, but other grounds I’ve seen with fans in seemed a lot more spaced than this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
city4eva 207 Posted September 20, 2020 I thought the same. Looks like a row between each bubble but only one seat ( could be 2 though) which I guess is what they will be aiming for if we are ever allowed more back in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,779 Posted September 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, city4eva said: I thought the same. Looks like a row between each bubble but only one seat ( could be 2 though) which I guess is what they will be aiming for if we are ever allowed more back in This could have been the reason. Maybe they deliberately used a small section of the ground to replicate the situation when 1000 becomes 6000 or 8000, for example. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beefy is a legend 224 Posted September 20, 2020 I was there and in my 'bubble of one' I had a clear row in front, a clear row behind and two clear seats either side. That side of things was fine, the main issues were outside of the ground where we were herded into small areas and tight queues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonncfc 28 Posted September 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Beefy is a legend said: I was there and in my 'bubble of one' I had a clear row in front, a clear row behind and two clear seats either side. That side of things was fine, the main issues were outside of the ground where we were herded into small areas and tight queues. In fairness, despite initially being a little apprehensive, I thought it all went well and that NCFC did an excellent job in sorting it all out at such short notice. It felt completely safe throughout and the two seats either side plus alternate row arrangement worked extremely well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beefy is a legend 224 Posted September 20, 2020 Yes overall it was pretty good. Inside the stadium no problem at all. We were herded into close quarters on the way out but otherwise it's an 8/10 from me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted September 20, 2020 59 minutes ago, Making Plans said: 1,000 supporters in a stadium that holds 27,000. Surely thay could/should have been spaced out more than that Because it's a national test of 7 games with a view to having a larger number, where they would be as pictured throughout the stadium, obviously! What would be the point in the test otherwise. The people in the picture are guinea pigs, if we get any spike in cases which can be linked to these 7 games then no chance for decent numbers, e.g. 7000 people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted September 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Beefy is a legend said: Yes overall it was pretty good. Inside the stadium no problem at all. We were herded into close quarters on the way out but otherwise it's an 8/10 from me. Fair play for taking one for the team and volunteering to be a guinea pig, world is richer for people like you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,638 Posted September 20, 2020 To be fair, there could be a large degree of ‘foreshortening’In that picture - with people stood around You lose a sense of depth in terms of how far higher/lower they are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted September 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: To be fair, there could be a large degree of ‘foreshortening’In that picture - with people stood around You lose a sense of depth in terms of how far higher/lower they are. It's 1 metre between each family group, that is the test. Having 1 person every 27 seats would completely defeat the object of the national experiment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 936 Posted September 20, 2020 So my wife and I are not allowed to visit my daughters family of 5 (making 7) but what I see in that picture is fine. Absolute madness Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,075 Posted September 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Making Plans said: So my wife and I are not allowed to visit my daughters family of 5 (making 7) but what I see in that picture is fine. Absolute madness I agree entirely. It is all, from start to finish, absolute madness. (I am definitely in the minority, I think the photo is fine but you visiting your daughter and family should also be fine.) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,089 Posted September 20, 2020 Just now, All the Germans said: I agree entirely. It is all, from start to finish, absolute madness. (I am definitely in the minority, I think the photo is fine but you visiting your daughter and family should also be fine.) If you were outside and properly distanced (I.e. as done at Carrow Road), it should be fine in practice but TBH I have lost track of whether this would be allowed according to the latest rules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellowrider120 761 Posted September 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Making Plans said: So my wife and I are not allowed to visit my daughters family of 5 (making 7) but what I see in that picture is fine. Absolute madness As much as I desperately want to get back to full stadiums again (or even some degree of 'meaningful' numbers) there is not a cat in hells chance of that happening whilst stupid rules like this are in force. The public would not tolerate increasing numbers of football fans enjoying their Saturday afternoons against that backdrop. I can see the test events being consigned to the bin soon whilst the next round of 'tightening restrictions' is introduced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beefy is a legend 224 Posted September 20, 2020 The difference of course, is that fans at football is an economic benefit to the country. Sadly you seeing your family, isn't. That's why one is being encouraged and the other is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted September 20, 2020 Hancock is determined that sport must carry on. But there is no point without spectators. It is an experiment. Not the greatest experiment. The parameters are too wide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 936 Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Beefy is a legend said: The difference of course, is that fans at football is an economic benefit to the country. Sadly you seeing your family, isn't. That's why one is being encouraged and the other is not. Really? When we visit our family it usually ends up with us giving them a load of money to pay for something that they either need or want. . Edited September 20, 2020 by Making Plans 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted September 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Making Plans said: So my wife and I are not allowed to visit my daughters family of 5 (making 7) but what I see in that picture is fine. Absolute madness Assuming at least one of the kids is under 11, then you could meet in Wales as they don't count towards the 6! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted September 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Beefy is a legend said: The difference of course, is that fans at football is an economic benefit to the country. Sadly you seeing your family, isn't. That's why one is being encouraged and the other is not. People buying petrol isn't an economic benefit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 936 Posted September 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Assuming at least one of the kids is under 11, then you could meet in Wales as they don't count towards the 6! All 3 of them are under 11 - Wales is a long way to go though when they only live 20 minutes down the road 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benchwarmer 624 Posted September 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Nuff Said said: If you were outside and properly distanced (I.e. as done at Carrow Road), it should be fine in practice but TBH I have lost track of whether this would be allowed according to the latest rules. Exactly. They change the rules every five minutes as infection rates inevitably start to rise (covid being a seasonal virus), and then blame the public when they don't achieve the desired result. Then they have a go at people who turn up for so-called unnecessary tests, when the early symptoms of covid (I've had it btw) are very much like an ordinary cold with little or no sneezing. How are people supposed to know the difference? Objectors are no longer a small minority. The government is starting to lose the dressing room. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,089 Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, benchwarmer said: Exactly. They change the rules every five minutes as infection rates inevitably start to rise (covid being a seasonal virus), and then blame the public when they don't achieve the desired result. Then they have a go at people who turn up for so-called unnecessary tests, when the early symptoms of covid (I've had it btw) are very much like an ordinary cold with little or no sneezing. How are people supposed to know the difference? Objectors are no longer a small minority. The government is starting to lose the dressing room. Mate, I am so far from the dressing room already. Edited September 20, 2020 by Nuff Said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete 318 Posted September 20, 2020 Temperature test before given covid test. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Number9 272 Posted September 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Making Plans said: Really? When we visit our family it usually ends up with us giving them a load of money to pay for something that they either need or want. . You can come and visit me if you want £££££ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 936 Posted September 20, 2020 6 hours ago, Nuff Said said: If you were outside and properly distanced (I.e. as done at Carrow Road), it should be fine in practice but TBH I have lost track of whether this would be allowed according to the latest rules. I think to claim that they were "properly distanced" is highly debatable. Plus they were all breaking the rules by standing up and cheering. And not a Steward in sight. Furthermore, I don't see how a building with 3 sides and a roof is deemed as being outside and safe as far as the virus is concerned when it is classed as being inside and unhealthy if you want a smoke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myra Hawtree 124 Posted September 20, 2020 When they showed the fans in the stadium at Middlesbrough they were much more distanced from each other than at Carrow Road. Many were just single not the large groups as shown in this photo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkshire Canary 118 Posted September 20, 2020 8 hours ago, Making Plans said: 1,000 supporters in a stadium that holds 27,000. Surely thay could/should have been spaced out more than that Yes i thought the same when i saw it yesterday, hardly going to further the cause of crowds coming back anytime quickly and in any event sport is swimming against the tide given what is happening in the UK, cases going up, testing cannot keep up, schools back and local and National restrictions getting worse. Yes i would love to be back but these pilots were mere gestures in my opinion no way crowds are coming back. despite loving football i would be seriously pissed of if crowds returned but at the same time i cannot see neighbors, family and friends, the sooner we get real about this the better i am sad to say Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beefy is a legend 224 Posted September 20, 2020 I have to agree, I wouldn't be surprised if we are back to 0 fans for the next home game. We are in a difficult place. As soon as we open up society the virus will return. I don't see how any of the measures can prevent it. As soon as they are loosened it will come back. We can't have workplaces, schools, universities open without the R number going above 1. Until there are very effective treatments and/or vaccines, we are stuck with this situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,089 Posted September 20, 2020 10 hours ago, Branston Pickle said: To be fair, there could be a large degree of ‘foreshortening’In that picture - with people stood around You lose a sense of depth in terms of how far higher/lower they are. I think this is key, and has been missed. It’s like the photos of the “crowded” beaches taken with a long lens when there is actually a reasonable gap between each group. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites