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21 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said:

How does the saying go....

 

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck....it probably is a duck.

Stop the donations.

There is a real argument for a ban, but it gets lost amongst the conspiracy theories.

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9 hours ago, Yellow Fever said:

How does the saying go....

 

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck....it probably is Bill

 

Had to correct that one for you👍

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8 hours ago, Barbe bleu said:

There is a real argument for a ban, but it gets lost amongst the conspiracy theories.

Is the Anal Fiend perk necessary to tame Deathclaws?: fo76

 

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9 hours ago, Barbe bleu said:

There is a real argument for a ban, but it gets lost amongst the conspiracy theories.

Then this government should do it else they are culpable. No corporate or trade body (inc Trade Unions) donations to political parties.

Individual donations (UK citizens & tax payers only) capped at £1000/year. 

Fine for deliberate evasion 100 x donation on both giver and receiver.

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23 hours ago, Barbe bleu said:

Thing is I took the time to read the relevant documents, rather than what is on twitter, you can do so too if you want.   Page 23 has a good potted history

https://acp.planninginspectorate.gov.uk/ViewCase.aspx?Caseid=3244410&CoID=0

The council officers recommended approval,  the councillors , belatedly, accepted approval should be granted and the civil servant inspector recommended approval.  It would be odd if the SoS did not grant permission.

If you want to believe that all these people (local officers, elected councillors, planning inspector and SoS) were bribed then fair enough but I imagine that they would find this suggestion grossly offensive and libellous.

I happen to think that developer donations to development decision makers is problematic but to use this case as evidence of corruption does no service whatsoever to your argument.

Move on from this one.  The battle is lost but the war can continue

 

😊 I don't think so, there is no war (on corruption) and never has been - that is exactly the point.

This kind of corruption has been endemic within the UK for decades, the only thing that has changed in recent years and which has obviously therefore attracted a lot of attention is that it has come much more out into the open especially at ministerial level.

Since we already know that whilst Johnson is PM neither breaking the Ministerial Code or the law will result in any penalty for the offending minister, I suppose there is no real need for them to be discreet about it any more - especially as in another recent change, most of the supporters of the 'law and order' party seem equally unconcerned, not just about a few planning decisions here & there, but a range of far more serious abuses some of which have cost vast amounts of public money (another topic which used to be close to the heart of most Tory supporters but now quietly forgotten).

So there is no battle or war just the observation that this country's gentle descent towards third world standards has now really started to pick up pace.

 

 

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Yet again Johnson's Tory party mimicks Trump's GOP in trying to disenfranchise non-Tory voters, and the public will have to cough up £120m to pay for this poll fixing:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/tories-blow-120million-on-forcing-all-voters-to-show-id-despite-tiny-number-of-frauds/ar-AAO5vRC?ocid=msedgntp

Tories blow £120million on forcing all voters to show ID - despite tiny number of frauds

Tory plans to force all voters to show ID will cost £120million over a decade, a devastating government document shows.

It reveals for the first time the price of the crackdown on voter fraud at polling stations - for which just three people have been convicted in seven years.

The Cabinet Office impact assessment estimates the policy, which campaigners say will marginalise poorer and older voters, will cost between £65m and £180m over the next 10 years, with a “central estimate” of £120m.

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5 hours ago, horsefly said:

Yet again Johnson's Tory party mimicks Trump's GOP in trying to disenfranchise non-Tory voters, and the public will have to cough up £120m to pay for this poll fixing:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/tories-blow-120million-on-forcing-all-voters-to-show-id-despite-tiny-number-of-frauds/ar-AAO5vRC?ocid=msedgntp

Tories blow £120million on forcing all voters to show ID - despite tiny number of frauds

Tory plans to force all voters to show ID will cost £120million over a decade, a devastating government document shows.

It reveals for the first time the price of the crackdown on voter fraud at polling stations - for which just three people have been convicted in seven years.

The Cabinet Office impact assessment estimates the policy, which campaigners say will marginalise poorer and older voters, will cost between £65m and £180m over the next 10 years, with a “central estimate” of £120m.

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Surely most Tory voters just have to show their pension books💀

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Just now, keelansgrandad said:

Surely most Tory voters just have to show their pension books💀

I think a Tory party donation receipt will do.

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4 hours ago, horsefly said:

Even the Express are finding it hard to find anything positive to say about Johnson:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1487993/boris-johnson-approval-rating-poll-latest-evg

Boris Johnson sent major warning as UK approval rating PLUMMETS

So wait for yet another Johnson intervention. He will be raiding Corbyn's manifesto soon😁

 

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Every day that passes means another day of Tory sleaze and corruption:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/michael-gove-receives-100-000-in-donations-from-one-of-london-s-top-property-moguls/ar-AAOgBFq?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

Michael Gove receives £100,000 in donations from one of London’s top property moguls

Property developers are now the biggest contributors to the Tory party (millions in donations). Could it possibly be the reason why Johnson's government have proposed a blitzkrieg on planning regulations? 

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18 minutes ago, Herman said:

I think this is what Patel is trying to do.

 

Yep! Sadly, anti-immigrant baiting has always been the right-wing's first resort to boost their flagging popularity. I wonder how the proud boys and girls of the Royal Navy will feel when they are instructed to turn back a flimsy dinghy and stand by as it sinks, drowning women and children. Perhaps Preeti will instruct them to line up on deck and salute as the boat goes down.

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4 hours ago, horsefly said:

Yep! Sadly, anti-immigrant baiting has always been the right-wing's first resort to boost their flagging popularity. I wonder how the proud boys and girls of the Royal Navy will feel when they are instructed to turn back a flimsy dinghy and stand by as it sinks, drowning women and children. Perhaps Preeti will instruct them to line up on deck and salute as the boat goes down.

I bet the criminals are now going to give them yellow banana dinghies.

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Preeti Patel breaks the ministerial code yet again. Probably be promoted to foreign secretary as a result:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/priti-patel-breaks-rules-again-after-secret-meeting-with-billionaire-and-british-airways/ar-AAOkY28?ocid=msedgntp

Home Secretary Priti Patel was branded a serial offender last night over a secret “lobbying” meeting she brokered between a billionaire Tory donor and British Airways.

In an alleged breach of the ministerial code Ms Patel arranged high level talks at Heathrow Airport’s Hilton Garden Inn without a Home Office official present – as rules dictate.

The hotel is part of a chain owned by Ms Patel’s friend Surinder Arora.

Only weeks earlier he declared he needed “all the help we can get from government” after Covid led to a 90% fall in bookings. And he has ambitions of building and running a third Heathrow runway.

Tonight Labour called for a probe by Cabinet Secretary Simon Case into the Home Secretary’s conduct.

It is almost exactly the same behaviour by Ms Patel which forced her resignation as International Development Secretary in 2017 when she held unauthorised meetings with Israeli officials.

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5 hours ago, Herman said:

How to scare the beejaysus out of old people.

Health secretary Sajid Javid wearing PPE meets two female residents of Westport care home in Stepney, east London, last week.

Klaus Kinski as Nosferatu

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On 12/09/2021 at 20:11, keelansgrandad said:

The one with the yellow counters is cheating😳

Must be a Tory!

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There's a full dog doo bin near work if Johnson is looking for suitable replacements. 

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Williamson has apparently cleared his desk...I wonder if he ever did find his old A-level certificates? 🤔🤣

Apples

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13 minutes ago, Mr Apples said:

Williamson has apparently cleared his desk...I wonder if he ever did find his old A-level certificates? 🤔🤣

Apples

I hope so! He payed me an awful lot of money to forge them.

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49 minutes ago, Herman said:

There's a full dog doo bin near work if Johnson is looking for suitable replacements. 

Herman! surely you're aware of what the Tory Party thinks of metropolitan intellectual elites, there's no way they're going to upgrade to a dog doo bin (especially a full one).

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48 minutes ago, Mr Apples said:

Williamson has apparently cleared his desk...I wonder if he ever did find his old A-level certificates? 🤔🤣

Apples

And now he's left the building.

 

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