Well b back 3,200 Posted June 16, 2021 Indeed it’s interesting if you read his blog, what he is basically saying is Johnson will delay and delay any enquiries until he is no longer PM. His sole aim is to make himself as much money as possible and is suggesting Johnson doesn’t care about the deaths or the mistakes but will become the highest paid clown in the history of clowns. We can only assume he also has WhatsApp messages, texts and emails regards Brexit. I wonder if they show the same that ultimately the reason he supported Brexit was for his own political gain and ultimately his own financial gain at the expense of the British people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nevermind, neoliberalism has had it 159 Posted June 16, 2021 Our PM, Delta Johnson, who is responsible for the extra time spent in lock down, just as he is responsible for at least 1/10 of all covid death for his mismanagement. Tories best be aware that cocooning him in cotton wool, still, after all this blundering carnage he presided over, will not help them in any way, the man is burned toast, he and his supporters will be tarred with the same brush. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,200 Posted June 16, 2021 In one striking section, he contrasts Mr Johnson's approach with that of Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab, who stood in for the PM when he was in hospital with coronavirus. "Under Raab, the meetings were less pleasant for everybody but much more productive because unlike the PM a) Raab can chair meetings properly instead of telling rambling stories and jokes, b) he let good officials actually question people so we started to get to the truth, unlike the PM who as soon as things get 'a bit embarrassing' does the whole 'let's take it offline' shtick before shouting 'forward to victory', doing a thumbs-up and pegging it out of the room before anybody can disagree." Downing Street said it was "not going to engage" with this claim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,754 Posted June 17, 2021 The Daily Star nails it.😂 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,296 Posted June 17, 2021 37 minutes ago, Herman said: The Daily Star nails it.😂 Their best yet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,510 Posted June 17, 2021 These "hopeless" comments had me reflecting a bit more. One trouble we have is that the UK government is not being led by someone able to be serious about many things. Cummings obviously has an axe to grind, however its telling that his emergency meetings contain Johnson's rambling stories and jokes (see extracted quote from This Week). Compared with Starmer, he is a polar opposite. You could say Starmer is ultra serious and somewhat personality-less. Hence, perhaps he is less popular?But honestly, who would anyone want to lead a country? And in a pandemic. I would want the more serious 'technocrat' type. It seems to me that being the PM fulfils a tick in 'world king' ambition but it isn't about service to the country but service to Boris Johnson. If and when Sunak takes over (in a year perhaps?) we will see a wholly different leadership (and probably make up in quality of cabinet). Dominic Cummings has signalled that he plans to continue his campaign against Boris Johnson’s “chronic dysfunction” after he published texts from the prime minister in which he describes his health minister as “totally f***ing hopeless”. In a 7,000-word essay, **** says Johnson told “rambling stories and jokes” during emergency meetings. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,557 Posted June 17, 2021 Rafael Behr in the Guardian has one of the very best analyses I have seen of Johnson, but beware - reading it may make you very depressed. Full-on Marvin depressed: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/16/british-politics-drunk-brexit-spirit-boris-johnson 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooreMarriot 310 Posted June 17, 2021 No wonder Tory central office ban this man from appearing on TV as far as possible :: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57513415 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted June 17, 2021 48 minutes ago, MooreMarriot said: No wonder Tory central office ban this man from appearing on TV as far as possible :: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57513415 And Rees Mogg should be content reading his Just William books and sucking Nanny's nupple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daz Sparks 1,151 Posted June 18, 2021 Below are published quotes, they are irrefutable. His utter incompetence will affect the lives many thousands, and he simply does not give a flying f***. "There will be no border down the Irish Sea - over my dead body." During a visit to Northern Ireland, the Prime Minister reiterated his promise that businesses in the region would enjoy unfettered access to markets in England, Scotland and Wales. "We would be damaging the fabric of the union with regulatory checks and even customs controls between Great Britain and Northern Ireland on top of those extra regulatory checks down the Irish Sea that are already envisaged in the withdrawal agreement.” Boris Johnson speaking at the 2018 DUP conference. Boris Johnson later told a Democratic Unionist Party conference that "no British Conservative government could or should sign up to any such arrangement". And some people still think he can be trusted to lead this Country. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,296 Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) The doughty voters of Chesham and Amersham have clearly seen the light. Considering they have voted in the Tories since 1974, it does rather indicate that the public have begun to see the Emperor is wearing no clothes (I recommend you avoid conjuring up an image in your head unless you are in desperate need of an emetic). Turns out the Southern Blue Wall is paper thin and it's about to rain very hard. Edited June 18, 2021 by horsefly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted June 18, 2021 21 minutes ago, horsefly said: The doughty voters of Chesham and Amersham have clearly seen the light. Considering they have voted in the Tories since 1974, it does rather indicate that the public have begun to see the Emperor is wearing no clothes (I recommend you avoid conjuring up an image in your head unless you are in desperate need of an emetic). Turns out the Southern Blue Wall is paper thin and it's about to rain very hard. Its a protest vote apparently. Its anti HS2. Its funny that the LibDems backed HS2. So that is why they are bringing in the anti protest bill then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,296 Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, keelansgrandad said: Its a protest vote apparently. Its anti HS2. Its funny that the LibDems backed HS2. So that is why they are bringing in the anti protest bill then? Yep! It's a protest alright, a protest against a lying, corrupt, incompetent government responsible for the most calamatous period of failure in the UK's recent history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 1,996 Posted June 18, 2021 19 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: Its a protest vote apparently. Its anti HS2. Its funny that the LibDems backed HS2. So that is why they are bringing in the anti protest bill then? 13 minutes ago, horsefly said: Yep! It's a protest alright, a protest against a lying, corrupt, incompetent government responsible for the most calamatous period of failure in the UK's recent history. Exactly this ^ , of course its a protest vote, that's quite normal in a by-election and HS2 may even have been an issue there though I would have thought it was way down the pecking order. If anything I would suggest that the Tories plan to rip up the Planning system was more significant but then, as @horsefly says, there is 'a lying, corrupt, incompetent government responsible for the most calamatous period of failure in the UK's recent history' to protest about - I would have thought that was sufficient motivation. Clearly Labour and the Greens were total bystanders in this election but still worth pointing out that the Greens got more than double the Labour vote - perhaps a few more results like this might finally force Labour to abandon their totally stupid belief that they can defeat the Tories on their own, and actually start to focus on heading up some sort of progressive alliance which definitely could win the next election (could have won the last election but that sadly is water under the bridge now). Unfortunately SKS is looking less and less likely as the person to achieve this (or anything else for that matter). 🙄 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,296 Posted June 19, 2021 https://news.stv.tv/politics/former-commons-speaker-john-bercow-defects-to-labour?top John Bercow, the former Conservative MP who became the scourge of Brexiteers as Commons Speaker, says he has switched allegiances to join the Labour Party. Bercow said he regards the Tories under Prime Minister Boris Johnson as “reactionary, populist, nationalistic and sometimes even xenophobic”. Having stepped down as Speaker after 10 years in 2019, he announced on Saturday that he joined Labour in recent weeks. “I am motivated by support for equality, social justice and internationalism. That is the Labour brand,” he told the Observer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,296 Posted June 19, 2021 (edited) Sums it up nicely Edited June 19, 2021 by horsefly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,200 Posted June 19, 2021 John Bercow leaves the Tories with a few comments Former Speaker of the House of Commons and Tory MP John Bercow says he has changed allegiances to join Labour. He told the Observer the Conservatives under Boris Johnson were "reactionary, populist, nationalistic and sometimes even xenophobic". The government "needs to be replaced", he said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,296 Posted June 20, 2021 Another Tory donor investigated for massive fraud. Cameron, May, Fox, all lobbied on behalf of the company : https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/oil-firm-led-by-tory-donor-investigated-over-alleged-bribes-in-nine-countries/ar-AALfcCi?ocid=msedgntp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted June 21, 2021 19 hours ago, horsefly said: Another Tory donor investigated for massive fraud. Cameron, May, Fox, all lobbied on behalf of the company : https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/oil-firm-led-by-tory-donor-investigated-over-alleged-bribes-in-nine-countries/ar-AALfcCi?ocid=msedgntp How dare they investigate all these honourable men. They are all above board and beyond reproach. Its probably those nasty Unions and Corbyn. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,200 Posted June 21, 2021 Won’t be to long until he proclaims himself as a living god. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,384 Posted June 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Well b back said: Won’t be to long until he proclaims himself as a living god. I'm fairly sure he already is.😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted June 21, 2021 4 hours ago, ricardo said: I'm fairly sure he already is.😉 I thought Cliff Richard sang it first😁 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,200 Posted June 23, 2021 His latest blabbering https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57582462 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,200 Posted June 23, 2021 Do we have the right man in charge for a war with Russia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,510 Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Well b back said: Do we have the right man in charge for a war with Russia A great chance for him to look like his hero and go all Churchill. Another box ticked for his "world king" ambitions. Edited June 23, 2021 by sonyc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,754 Posted June 23, 2021 It could have been worse. Gavin Williamson was Secretary of Defence not that long ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,200 Posted June 24, 2021 11 hours ago, sonyc said: A great chance for him to look like his hero and go all Churchill. Another box ticked for his "world king" ambitions. Hi Sonyc All I keep seeing this morning is exclusive from BBC whose reporter was on HMS Defender, exclusive from x journalist that was on HMS Defender. Is it common to have loads of journalists on a warship ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Apples 1,320 Posted June 24, 2021 12 hours ago, Well b back said: Do we have the right man in charge for a war with Russia Judging by the state of our armed forces we'd only be able to muster a recreation of the Charge of the Light Brigade. 🤣 Apples 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,161 Posted June 24, 2021 We wouldn't need to go to war with Russia. We would negotiate a deal with them thay would give them access to the Shetland Islands then we would put a border in the North Sea and instigate a spat about Borsscht as we didn't understand the deal we had negotiated, who knew that the Russians could be so devious? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,510 Posted June 24, 2021 25 minutes ago, Well b back said: Hi Sonyc All I keep seeing this morning is exclusive from BBC whose reporter was on HMS Defender, exclusive from x journalist that was on HMS Defender. Is it common to have loads of journalists on a warship ? An extremely odd thing to watch wasn't it? It felt a little like part of a documentary and then 'real life' took place or maybe someone knew they were going into Ukrainian waters and something might kick off! Very odd and felt rather scripted. Who knows, maybe we are all being played by propagandists! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites