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14 minutes ago, ricardo said:

Time for Trelawny to march on London ( or 20 thousand Cornish men will know the reasn why)👍

Half of London is down here every weekend🐜🐜🐜

Twenty thousand actually walked the other way. Old Trelawny got off anyway. Royalists the lot of them.

6000 marched to London for the release of Michael Joseph (An Gof-a Blacksmith) and Thomas Flamank. But the Royalists chopped their heads off. What a way to show gratitude.

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17 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said:

Johnson would've run away and hidden in a fridge.

 

Wonder if Trump will tweet this one?

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1 hour ago, Van wink said:

As a political playground its over. To use your words "remarkably naive" to think otherwise.

 

 

 

Yes of course it is, no one will be talking about brexit in a month or two, all over and done with. It will be a great relief to see all those SMEs trading normally, hospitals fully staffed, exporters trading without friction etc, etc, etc. 

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15 minutes ago, horsefly said:

Yes of course it is, no one will be talking about brexit in a month or two, all over and done with. It will be a great relief to see all those SMEs trading normally, hospitals fully staffed, exporters trading without friction etc, etc, etc. 

Its chip paper ( no fish ) 😉

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Boris goes from strength to strength. Winning mid-term in a former Labour stronghold is a massive vindication of his government. 

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1 hour ago, Rock The Boat said:

Boris goes from strength to strength. Winning mid-term in a former Labour stronghold is a massive vindication of his government. 

But, but the wallpaper!

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On 28/04/2021 at 19:00, Herman said:

I think SKS showed what he is good at today. Clear, forensic and unflustered. I think we'd all prefer him to give them a good verbal battering that they deserve but it's not his style and something we have to get used to for the forseeable future. Slow and steady yes, but he has set a few traps today that Johnson walked into easily.

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1 hour ago, ricardo said:

But, but the wallpaper!

I would rather have a thief than a liar. So when it emerges that he originally supported the ESL, the major concern for all, the country will be in uproar and demand answers

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On 06/05/2021 at 09:56, BigFish said:

We will @Van wink, or rather I think we won't. I suspect what will happen is that Tories will win in Hartlepool and Andy Street will win in the West Midlands giving the Tories/Johnson something to crow about tomorrow. SNP will walked it in Scotland putting the UK in danger. Khan will win in London and as the results trickle in by Saturday Labour will show a smallish net gain in terms of councillors/councils but that will largely be ovelooked as the narrative will already by set.

Thing is the 2019 GE largely fractured politics as we know it and until that plays out in 2023/2024 we won't really know what the impact has been. What we do know is that if these elections had been fought with Johnson on the up (post-Brexit in 2020 or pre-sleaze in 2021) Labour would have been routed.

I wouldn't hold your breath over the Saturday results.

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1 hour ago, Van wink said:

I wouldn't hold your breath over the Saturday results.

or the smallish Labour net gains predictions.

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1 minute ago, ricardo said:

or the smallish Labour net gains predictions.

Harlow surprised me, I worked for the Council there many years ago when a young Richard Hewitt was the Leader and it was a left wing hotbed. They actually had a lot of good local policies and working there was good, but lost control of the finances. It has gone Tory before but shocks me if I see it turn Blue, bit of a barometer for me.

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Just great to see some of today's disgruntled news and media BBC Commentators with faces like cabbage patch kids.....they're so unhappy.....

 

 

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5 hours ago, ricardo said:

But, but the wallpaper!

And the corruption. Lying. Racism. Thievery. Amoral behaviour. But, yeah,  mostly the wallpaper. 😀

How did I forget the 130000 dead grannies? Must have been the wallpaper. 

 

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1 hour ago, Van wink said:

I wouldn't hold your breath over the Saturday results.

True @Van wink, not looking good at all, the Conservative polling lead hasn't narrowed as much as some polls had it. Particularly in the rust belt constituencies. That said it is not all one way traffic with the Tories losing control of Cambridgeshire and Castle Point in the South. Noises out of Wales seem to be pointing to disappointing night for them as well and London will no doubt reject them again.

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5 hours ago, ricardo said:

But, but the wallpaper!

One interesting thing about Harlepool is that living standards are lower than they were in 2010. There has been over a decade of Conservative government during that time, and yet this is somehow down to Labour neglect.

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14 minutes ago, BigFish said:

One interesting thing about Harlepool is that living standards are lower than they were in 2010. There has been over a decade of Conservative government during that time, and yet this is somehow down to Labour neglect.

Thats the odd thing BF, Labour had lots to go for so why didn't it hit home? 

But I see Merthyr ( the Land of my Fathers ) has a swing from Plaid to Labour, so some small, very small, comfort. For my part I see Plaid as an opportunistic party offering nothing of value to Wales, the Principality was always Labour and long may it remain.

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13 minutes ago, BigFish said:

One interesting thing about Harlepool is that living standards are lower than they were in 2010. There has been over a decade of Conservative government during that time, and yet this is somehow down to Labour neglect.

Crumbs of comfort BF

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Just now, Van wink said:

Thats the odd thing BF, Labour had lots to go for so why didn't it hit home? 

But I see Merthyr ( the Land of my Fathers ) has a swing from Plaid to Labour, so some small, very small, comfort.

 

Just now, Van wink said:

Crumbs of comfort BF

Crumbs indeed, and not many of those either @Van wink.

Bit of a lack lustre opposition and the noise of Brexit/Covid/Vacination sucking the oxygen out of politics is my guess. That and the rather irritating fact that despite everything voters do connect to Johnson.

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Just now, BigFish said:

 

Crumbs indeed, and not many of those either @Van wink.

Bit of a lack lustre opposition and the noise of Brexit/Covid/Vacination sucking the oxygen out of politics is my guess. That and the rather irritating fact that despite everything voters do connect to Johnson.

Connecting with voters is the art of politics BF.  I take no pleasure in seeing Labour being lashed, my fear is that nothing will change. I'm sure Bill will be along in due course to blame the voters.😉

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1 hour ago, Van wink said:

Harlow surprised me, I worked for the Council there many years ago when a young Richard Hewitt was the Leader and it was a left wing hotbed. They actually had a lot of good local policies and working there was good, but lost control of the finances. It has gone Tory before but shocks me if I see it turn Blue, bit of a barometer for me.

Problem is VW, we can isolate many reasons why people have turned 180 degrees in some areas.

Since the Black Lives Matter protests started many people have been asked to make a binary choice just like they do in most elections.

Since Brexit the choice is whether to trust Labour as it was so indecisive.

All we have heard during the pandemic is that Corbyn would have handled it worse.

Parliament has been empty and not televised (even though I doubt SKS would have handled a packed house) so very little scrutiny.

And of course, quite rightly, the Government has paid people to stay at home for 12 months.

And the vaccine rollout, although no better than anyone elses now, was rapid and organised so is creited to Boris.

But the plain fact is the Labour Party has lost its identity. I have just heard a debate about it and some want a more central Party while others, including me, want a proper alternative and further socialist measures.

There is a history of Labour being in the wilderness so its not a shock or something we aren't used to.

But it shouldn't come down to the lesser of two evils as to who runs the country.

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30 minutes ago, Van wink said:

Connecting with voters is the art of politics BF.

True, but Johnson is such a fraud. I am bemused by his appeal.

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3 minutes ago, BigFish said:

True, but Johnson is such a fraud. I am bemused by his appeal.

Greens done well in Sheffield, good stuff.

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13 minutes ago, Van wink said:

Greens done well in Sheffield, good stuff.

And the LibDems, Sheffield politics seems refreshingly Tory free. Classic University city, I suppose.

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1 hour ago, ricardo said:

SNP not going to get a majority either.

They seem to be doing pretty well!

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10 minutes ago, Herman said:

Tories lose overall control of Cambridgeshire too.

"Cambridgeshire County Council leader Steve Count remained tight-lipped"

something about that made me smile, not sure what😀

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