New Tory Leader

[benchwarmer 624]

On 19/01/2023 at 09:44, Yellow Fever said:

Very fair summary. I would add that most people also seem oddly oblivious that most GP surgeries are 'private' businesses (partnerships) for profit and have always been since the inception of the NHS! I really don't care if via the NHS a knee operation is done at a local private hospital etc (Kings Lynn comes to mind) or the local NHS hospital direct. 

I do however think the that there is room for a small waveable charge (like the prescription or dental charge) for the use of such services - if only to act as weak deterrent against frivolous use. Peopel generally don't tend to value things that are free! 

 

We already pay doctors after we die, if we're going to be cremated.  Two doctors have to sign a cremation form and both currently receive £82, ie. £164 in total  Commonly know as "ash cash", it is paid by funeral directors who add it to the cost of the funeral.

Edited January 21, 2023 by benchwarmer

[sonyc 5,492]

6 hours ago, Yellow Fever said:

I'm sure there are many decent, law abiding, tax paying, Tory voters out there.

Sadly it appears there isn't a decent, law abiding, tax paying, party for them to vote for.

The present party in government is clearly now morally bankrupt from top to bottom and only in it for themselves, their cronies and what they can get out of it. Any decent Tory MP left should simply, urgently, leave as a matter of principal or be presumed guilty by association.

 

"Carelessness" it would seem is the reason for paying £4.8m in tax.

This, from a former chancellor?

I wonder how any poster here would get on stating 'carelessness' to the Inland Rev?

Perhaps like Sunak not wearing a seat belt (again how on earth did he not think that was just not okay? Or the person filming him?)...he could simply say "Sorry".

Quite some stories continue to emerge from this so-called government of integrity and transparency.

[littleyellowbirdie 2,513]

On 19/01/2023 at 15:14, keelansgrandad said:

That is never going to happen. Cornwall isn't the City. We rely on tourism pure and simple. And they drive, have motor homes or caravans. They do not use the train.

Cornwall relies on tourism, has loads of housing empty for large chunks of the year, and is really poor because of it. The road infrastructure cannot cope with the load it is forced to bear in the Summer.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

37 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

Cornwall relies on tourism, has loads of housing empty for large chunks of the year, and is really poor because of it. The road infrastructure cannot cope with the load it is forced to bear in the Summer.

Apart from peak hours, our roads can cope quite well. As you say, in Summer, certain parts of the infrastructure are hard pressed. Not just certain roads but our main Hospital which was built to serve about 250K-500K population but A&E becomes a nightmare in the holiday periods.

However, a rail link from Newquay to Falmouth will do very little. Unless they add an additional line, its one way traffic at best.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

Tory Party Chairman Nadhim Zahawi says an error in his tax affairs was accepted by HMRC as having been "careless and not deliberate".

In a statement, he said he wanted to address "confusion about my finances" after claims he tried to avoid tax and had to pay it back.

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak is satisfied with Mr Zahawi's account, the BBC has been told.

[horsefly 4,287]

1 hour ago, keelansgrandad said:

Tory Party Chairman Nadhim Zahawi says an error in his tax affairs was accepted by HMRC as having been "careless and not deliberate".

In a statement, he said he wanted to address "confusion about my finances" after claims he tried to avoid tax and had to pay it back.

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak is satisfied with Mr Zahawi's account, the BBC has been told.

So, the multi-millionaire businessman wants us to believe that he and his team of accountants were merely careless in purposely funnelling huge amounts of his cash through a tax avoiding off-shore haven in ways that breached the regulations of which they will have been well aware. Well who could possibly be dissatisfied with that explanation!!!

[Herman 9,717]

3 minutes ago, horsefly said:

So, the multi-millionaire businessman wants us to believe that he and his team of accountants were merely careless in purposely funnelling huge amounts of his cash through a tax avoiding off-shore haven in ways that breached the regulations of which they will have been well aware. Well who could possibly be dissatisfied with that explanation!!!

[Herman 9,717]

It's never ending with these corrupted mother****ers.

 

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

3 minutes ago, Herman said:

It's never ending with these corrupted mother****ers.

 

Johnson makes Berlesconi resemble Mother Theresa.

[horsefly 4,287]

11 hours ago, keelansgrandad said:

Johnson makes Berlesconi resemble Mother Theresa.

I heard that both Johnson and Berlusconi "tried it on" with her.

[horsefly 4,287]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/dominic-raab-says-he-makes-no-apologies-for-having-high-standards-as-he-denies-bullying-allegations/ar-AA16AIOX?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=ee0051d71da444f2924d7f6dd8666dcc

Dominic Raab says he makes ‘no apologies for having high standards’ as he denies bullying allegations

What a strange response to the question, "Did you bully or harass the people who worked for you?". Why would one need to apologise for having high standards? It looks like a very lawyerly construction from the trained lawyer that really says, "yes I did bully and harass my staff but was right to do so in order to achieve high standards in my department(s)". It seems Raab missed the point that having "high standards" at work also includes the behaviour of the person running the the department, and that includes motivating one's staff to perform well rather than bullying them into doing so. 

Bye, bye Dom! You won't be missed.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/12/dominic-raab-facing-more-bullying-claims-from-time-as-brexit-secretary

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1697067/Dominic-Raab-bullying-updates-Civil-servants-scared-tory-MP-foreign-office

[horsefly 4,287]

When Sunak was appointed by the Tory Party to be our 3rd PM within a year he promised that he would run a government marked by the "highest standards of professionalism, integrity, and accountability". He then appointed to his cabinet; Gavin Williamson, Nadim Zahawi, and Dominic Raab. So what has changed?

[Well b back 3,190]

2 hours ago, horsefly said:

When Sunak was appointed by the Tory Party to be our 3rd PM within a year he promised that he would run a government marked by the "highest standards of professionalism, integrity, and accountability". He then appointed to his cabinet; Gavin Williamson, Nadim Zahawi, and Dominic Raab. So what has changed?

Just as he was thick enough to put pictures of himself on social media breaking law, he was also very naive with that statement. Did he not really believe the press have loads of things on all of them which they would release whenever it would have an impact. Does he also not realise the infamous Dominic Cummings is yet to release his major stories ?

As Del Boy would say ‘ What a Plonker

[horsefly 4,287]

4 minutes ago, Well b back said:

Just as he was thick enough to put pictures of himself on social media breaking law, he was also very naive with that statement. Did he not really believe the press have loads of things on all of them which they would release whenever it would have an impact. Does he also not realise the infamous Dominic Cummings is yet to release his major stories ?

As Del Boy would say ‘ What a Plonker

He doesn't seem to have matured beyond the naïve sixth former from a privileged background with no grasp of how the rest of us live:

 

[Sheva 123]

No surprise that Nadhim Zahawi has overlooked a few mill of tax owed.

The investigating journalists need to start digging around his dealings abroad and see what turns up.

Could start with the murky past arrangements and advice  with Gulf Keystone Petroleum, who’s shareholders were almost wiped out of a very profitable company. 
 

Politics is riddled with corruption, always has been and always will be.

[benchwarmer 624]

20 hours ago, Herman said:

It's never ending with these corrupted mother****ers.

So how come Johnson couldn't source a loan from the usual providers, like the rest of us?  What was it for?  Is he in serious debt?

 

[Herman 9,717]

It's worrying that someone so reckless with cash was in charge of the public's money. No wonder he promised everybody everything.

(Now he's popped up in Ukraine, hoping Zelensky will rub some stardust on his fast fading career.)

[Yellow Fever 3,749]

There is a stench coming from the open cesspit that is the Tory party - from the very top to bottom.

Entitlement, cronyism, tax, dishonesty, finger in the pie, fill your boots.. the list is endless. Nobody even vaguely  'in touch' with the average British citizen casually makes mistakes on a £3M to £5M tax bill or indeed an £800K loan. Chance would be a fine thing!

I was wondering what the appropriate punishment should be for such 'un' British low life  - we used to be able to exile people.

Perhaps we can cut a deal with Rwanda and fly the miscreants there, cancelling their British passports along the way (they can get Rwandan ones as part of the deal). That would seem a particularly apt Tory punishment.

[benchwarmer 624]

On 21/01/2023 at 19:53, Herman said:

It's never ending with these corrupted mother****ers.

Richard

Richard Sharp used to be Sunak's boss at Goldman Sachs.  Enough said.

 

[horsefly 4,287]

Not the first time Zahawi has been somewhat careless in withholding crucial information. Poor old Nadhim, gets more than his share of misfortune doesn't he!

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/nadhim-zahawi-misled-officials-over-david-cameron-s-greensill-messages/ar-AA16DvtE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=53e0e296410e4a2d9dd7533736f1caa1

Nadhim Zahawi ‘misled officials over David Cameron’s Greensill messages’

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

So we go to the ethics committee.  Lets hope they are all Chris Bryant. 

And Sharp is having an internal inquiry. Why? There are only two people involved. And one is him.

[nevermind, neoliberalism has had it 159]

On 18/01/2023 at 15:53, horsefly said:

Would that be the same red-blooded socialist Dianne Abbott who went to a private school and sent her own son to one too?

https://www.gbnews.uk/news/diane-abbott-sparks-fury-from-labour-mp-after-attacking-starmers-nhs-reforms/425908

the issue is Starmer and his sidekick, play the ball for a change rather than find another straw woman to bash. Do you think she had much to say about her education? Did you say to your parents that you do not want to go to Blyth Jex?

 

[nevermind, neoliberalism has had it 159]

On 19/01/2023 at 12:27, keelansgrandad said:

3 strikes and you're out.

not if its 'not deliberate but an accident' says Mr. Zahawi. this chap has got to take his hat

[horsefly 4,287]

47 minutes ago, nevermind, neoliberalism has had it said:

the issue is Starmer and his sidekick, play the ball for a change rather than find another straw woman to bash. Do you think she had much to say about her education? Did you say to your parents that you do not want to go to Blyth Jex?

 

Nah! Blyth Jex turned me down. 

Do you think she had much say in the choice of her son's (private) education?

Edited January 23, 2023 by horsefly

[horsefly 4,287]

1 hour ago, keelansgrandad said:

So we go to the ethics committee.  Lets hope they are all Chris Bryant. 

And Sharp is having an internal inquiry. Why? There are only two people involved. And one is him.

Sadly I don't think it's going to the standards committee, it's being investigated by Sunak's appointed ethics advisor. 

Edited January 23, 2023 by horsefly

[Herman 9,717]

25 minutes ago, horsefly said:

Sadly I don't think it's going to the standards committee, it's been investigated by Sunak's appointed ethics advisor. 

Does his advisor look remarkably similar only with a bushy moustache? 

[Sheva 123]

So convenient ………

 

https://bylinetimes.com/2021/01/04/vaccine-minister-nadhim-zahawi-family-set-up-medical-company/
 

[Herman 9,717]

Where are the people that normally stick up for this bent cabal of shysters? 

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

35 minutes ago, Herman said:

Where are the people that normally stick up for this bent cabal of shysters? 

Assembling in Davos as the new Ethics Committee

[horsefly 4,287]

1 hour ago, Herman said:

Where are the people that normally stick up for this bent cabal of shysters? 

In prison on fraud charges