horsefly 4,287 Posted December 2, 2022 https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/tories-suffer-worst-defeat-in-chester-since-1832-339814/ Tories suffer worst defeat in Chester since 1832 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,715 Posted December 2, 2022 Javid throwing in the towel now as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted December 2, 2022 17 minutes ago, Herman said: Javid throwing in the towel now as well. Various personalities have been accused of bringing about Johnson's downfall but not many Saj resigning as Chancellor initially. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,287 Posted December 3, 2022 Sadly, what has been all too obvious for a long time but shamelessly ignored by the Tories: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/tory-donor-s-demolition-firm-named-as-part-of-a-150million-corruption-plot/ar-AA14RWg6?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=313a5dc8e2e34a2095c6e15e50d8ed9e Tory donor’s demolition firm named as part of a £150million corruption plot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted December 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, horsefly said: Sadly, what has been all too obvious for a long time but shamelessly ignored by the Tories: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/tory-donor-s-demolition-firm-named-as-part-of-a-150million-corruption-plot/ar-AA14RWg6?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=313a5dc8e2e34a2095c6e15e50d8ed9e Tory donor’s demolition firm named as part of a £150million corruption plot No, no. These companies are paragons of virtue. Its those nasty unions and Gordon Brown wlho have caused this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,287 Posted December 4, 2022 Nadhim Zahawi confirms that he is the thickest of the thick that populate the current cabinet: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/nadhim-zahawi-points-at-graph-showing-labour-poll-lead-says-he-d-be-worried-if-he-was-keir-starmer/ar-AA14SOTk?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=664986834ad24627ae131f4ffdf9fd9e Nadhim Zahawi points at graph showing Labour poll lead, says he'd 'be worried if he was Keir Starmer' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings of a Sparrow 1,410 Posted December 4, 2022 Good result for Labour, however the low turnout was a bit worrying (was it 40% or something). This sort of apathy could mean the Tories sleepwalking into winning the next election. *Yes, I know there's a bigger turnout for a General election, but there seems to be a huge disconnect somewhere. Is it the youngsters? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,747 Posted December 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Wings of a Sparrow said: Good result for Labour, however the low turnout was a bit worrying (was it 40% or something). This sort of apathy could mean the Tories sleepwalking into winning the next election. *Yes, I know there's a bigger turnout for a General election, but there seems to be a huge disconnect somewhere. Is it the youngsters? Nah. Just (ex) Tory voters 🙃 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted December 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Wings of a Sparrow said: Good result for Labour, however the low turnout was a bit worrying (was it 40% or something). This sort of apathy could mean the Tories sleepwalking into winning the next election. *Yes, I know there's a bigger turnout for a General election, but there seems to be a huge disconnect somewhere. Is it the youngsters? People fed up with politics in general probably the main reason. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,190 Posted December 4, 2022 Did a shift earlier today and as you maybe aware a lot of nurses couldn’t bring themselves to vote yes to strike action, despite really wanting to. Then along came Zahawi effectively accusing the nurses of backing Putin. I appreciate that this was done to get you all to hate nurses and those that work for the NHS, but the nurses are now up in arms, even those that could not bring themselves to vote yes. With regards the NHS his comments have now created a war with the government. They really don’t get it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63851251 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,190 Posted December 4, 2022 Just to show our government really are not in the real world, Sunak decides to support Qatar in relation to migrant deaths and hatred of the LGBT community, whilst other European Nations MPs leaders and MPs decide to wear the one love armband. This government chose to disrespect the England players by encouraging the booing of the taking of the knee and now disrespect them by not supporting their views. I guess questions will be put to Southgate in his next presser. Sunak you really are a c***, why go and support our national team, when you don’t support their believes. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11500937/Rishi-Sunak-sparks-fury-saying-hats-Qatar-tone-deaf-tweet.html 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,325 Posted December 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Well b back said: Did a shift earlier today and as you maybe aware a lot of nurses couldn’t bring themselves to vote yes to strike action, despite really wanting to. Then along came Zahawi effectively accusing the nurses of backing Putin. I appreciate that this was done to get you all to hate nurses and those that work for the NHS, but the nurses are now up in arms, even those that could not bring themselves to vote yes. With regards the NHS his comments have now created a war with the government. They really don’t get it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63851251 Zahawi didn't accuse the nurses of backing Putin. You just made it up you sad little man 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,325 Posted December 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Well b back said: Just to show our government really are not in the real world, Sunak decides to support Qatar in relation to migrant deaths and hatred of the LGBT community, whilst other European Nations MPs leaders and MPs decide to wear the one love armband. This government chose to disrespect the England players by encouraging the booing of the taking of the knee and now disrespect them by not supporting their views. I guess questions will be put to Southgate in his next presser. Sunak you really are a c***, why go and support our national team, when you don’t support their believes. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11500937/Rishi-Sunak-sparks-fury-saying-hats-Qatar-tone-deaf-tweet.html Did you enjoy the Beijing Olympics? Are you boycotting the World Cup because of human rights in Qatar? No. I didn't think so you sad little hypocrite. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,715 Posted December 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Rock The Boat said: Zahawi didn't accuse the nurses of backing Putin. You just made it up you sad little man In a roundabout way, he did. He was using the war in Ukraine in a rather nefarious and disgusting way. He is a disgrace. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooreMarriot 307 Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Herman said: In a roundabout way, he did. He was using the war in Ukraine in a rather nefarious and disgusting way. He is a disgrace. And he charged the tax payer for heating the stables he kept his horses in. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,287 Posted December 5, 2022 5 hours ago, Rock The Boat said: Zahawi didn't accuse the nurses of backing Putin. You just made it up you sad little man Well b back used the phrase, " along came Zahawi effectively accusing the nurses of backing Putin". As ever you shamefully misrepresent what was actually said in order to support your RWNJ agenda. Zahawi's claims were absolutely intended to align the nurses' strike action with the will of Putin. They were utterly repugnant, but pretty much par for the course from this degenerate and incompetent government. Thus, no surprise at all to find you defending them. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,287 Posted December 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, MooreMarriot said: And he charged the tax payer for heating the stables he kept his horses in. I'm sure Putin would be delighted to see our precious energy supplies being wasted on heating up stables. He'll probably send "Naddy" an xmas card in gratitude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,190 Posted December 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Rock The Boat said: Zahawi didn't accuse the nurses of backing Putin. You just made it up you sad little man You love throwing insults to back up your believes. Whilst hiding behind your computer you are a very brave man, but in real live probably wouldn’t say boo to a ghost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,190 Posted December 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Rock The Boat said: Zahawi didn't accuse the nurses of backing Putin. You just made it up you sad little man Maybe next he will put pictures of hospitals up taken at 4am on a Sunday morning to say hospitals are empty, maybe he can borrow the ones on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted December 5, 2022 RTB disappears for a while while the Tories are getting a bashing. Now it goes a bit quiet because Sunak doesn't like the limelight like his predecessors, he emerges to try and retaliate. There is nothing to see RTB. You have chosen the wrong moment. Especially now SKS has said Corbyn won't be allowed back in the Party and he wants to reform the House of Lords after Brown's report. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,287 Posted December 6, 2022 Not looking good for Rishi, perhaps he knows a rich non-dom that might help him out: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/donations-to-tory-party-slump-40-in-three-months/ar-AA14XLog?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=5cd52997701b4cc8882d74cf6bd568fc Donations to Tory party slump 40% in three months Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,283 Posted December 6, 2022 When you hear of the utterly disgusting way Michelle Mone gained over £200 million worth of orders for companies she was involved in and allegedly pocketed £36 million out of it, make your really think this government might keep going on about their swift Rollout of the vaccines but the cost was very high and in all areas it appears that tax payers money was used to pay for conservative comforts! Shame we can’t have a full independent investigation with full disclosure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,554 Posted December 6, 2022 6 hours ago, Indy said: When you hear of the utterly disgusting way Michelle Mone gained over £200 million worth of orders for companies she was involved in and allegedly pocketed £36 million out of it, make your really think this government might keep going on about their swift Rollout of the vaccines but the cost was very high and in all areas it appears that tax payers money was used to pay for conservative comforts! Shame we can’t have a full independent investigation with full disclosure. Indy, you may get a fair bit of disclosure, since the Tory party seems to have decided she is too much of an embarrassment even for them, by not opposing the release of information. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,715 Posted December 7, 2022 8 hours ago, PurpleCanary said: Indy, you may get a fair bit of disclosure, since the Tory party seems to have decided she is too much of an embarrassment even for them, by not opposing the release of information. She doesn't look the sort of person that will go quietly. I think quite a few tories, Gove especially, will be losing phones and accidentally shredding documents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,578 Posted December 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Herman said: She doesn't look the sort of person that will go quietly. I think quite a few tories, Gove especially, will be losing phones and accidentally shredding documents. It seems a pretty open and shut case at this point so it does feel like she'll be thrown to the wolves at this point. I do agree though that she seems like the type who may go scorched earth. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,492 Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Herman said: She doesn't look the sort of person that will go quietly. I think quite a few tories, Gove especially, will be losing phones and accidentally shredding documents. Seeing her being sworn in wearing her crimson ermine, her Kardashian make up (Mrs S advises me) and the stupidest smile, she looked like it was her first day in the job at a beauty counter in M&S, let alone the House of Lords. Actually, a sad picture and arguably all that is wrong with the selection process into the HoL. No wonder her attendance has been shabby, she probably has very little interest in affairs of the state. I know little of her political interests though it must be said. In most other fields of working life then someone facing these kinds of allegations would be suspended. Yet she can take time off (lol) to prepare to defend herself. Edited December 7, 2022 by sonyc 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,747 Posted December 7, 2022 38 minutes ago, king canary said: It seems a pretty open and shut case at this point so it does feel like she'll be thrown to the wolves at this point. I do agree though that she seems like the type who may go scorched earth. Who else will she bring down with her - or perhaps all of them? It appears the Tory call for PPE VIP lane was 'Fill yer boots" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,283 Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Yellow Fever said: Who else will she bring down with her - or perhaps all of them? It appears the Tory call for PPE VIP lane was 'Fill yer boots" Indeed, sad isn’t it! Off the back of peoples heartaches in a time of crisis some people find ways to profit from it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,128 Posted December 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, Indy said: Indeed, sad isn’t it! Off the back of peoples heartaches in a time of crisis some people find ways to profit from it! Right from the start of the pandemic the man at the top told them that Covid was a business opportunity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,283 Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, A Load of Squit said: Right from the start of the pandemic the man at the top told them that Covid was a business opportunity. Terrible, these are people employed by the tax paying electorate to do a job not to see potential to fleece the tax payer! Still going on now with power & fuel costs, no need for energy to cost so much the reality is it isn’t costing more to produce and there’s no shortage of energy or fuel if managed correctly. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites