New Tory Leader

[ricardo 7,348]

6 minutes ago, benchwarmer said:

They claim they have a mandate based on the 2019 GE.

In 2019 we were still in the EU and the mandate was "Get Brexit Done". 

 

As long as they can command a majority in the H of C they can do pretty much whatever they like subject to the law.

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1 hour ago, ricardo said:

It will be Penny or Rishi, as it would have been if MP's had been given the choice in the first place.

You would have thought so wouldn't you, although it has to be said that the Tory party has become a tad unpredictable 😂

If they only want a single uncontested candidate for PM then I would assume that its Mordaunt for PM with an agreement to give Sunak his old job back.

[Barry Brockes 145]

Boris as short as 3/1 or 4/1 in places and shortening! Surely not. I think I'd emigrate!

[Well b back 3,190]

Ha ha the latest reason for a GE not being held straight away is ?
There must be a viable opposition and if the Tories were wiped out now, there would be no viable opposition.

The circus continues.

[ricardo 7,348]

Just now, Barry Brockes said:

Boris as short as 3/1 or 4/1 in places and shortening! Surely not. I think I'd emigrate!

It would be like when Bobby Ewing stepped out of the shower and we found the previous few months had just been a bad dream.

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1 minute ago, Barry Brockes said:

Boris as short as 3/1 or 4/1 in places and shortening! Surely not. I think I'd emigrate!

It would get what they want ‘ civil unrest ‘. 

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

2 minutes ago, Well b back said:

It would get what they want ‘ civil unrest ‘. 

I think you are right WBB. That really would be the ultimate insult to the British voter. I for one would be happy for a bit of civil disobedience if it were to happen.

[ricardo 7,348]

10yr Gilt yields continue to fall, now 3.84% 

Now well below US Fed bonds which are up to 4.13%

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

3 minutes ago, ricardo said:

10yr Gilt yields continue to fall, now 3.84% 

Now well below US Fed bonds which are up to 4.13%

Lets face it, despite all the furore about gilt yields, apart from the last few years they were always 3 or 4%.

[Midlands Yellow 3,944]

10 minutes ago, Barry Brockes said:

Boris as short as 3/1 or 4/1 in places and shortening! Surely not. I think I'd emigrate!

I’m seeing 11/4 now, Sunak slightly odds on. 

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[keelansgrandad 6,679]

Just now, Midlands Yellow said:

I’m seeing 11/4 now, Sunak slightly odds on. 

Boris may be angling for a Ministerial job. Don't want to waste that wallpaper. And Lulu hasn't had any work since.

[ricardo 7,348]

8 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

Lets face it, despite all the furore about gilt yields, apart from the last few years they were always 3 or 4%.

Yes, markets seem content that the men in grey suits have knocked heads together.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cx250jmk4e7t/pound-sterling-gbp

Edited October 20, 2022 by ricardo

[Midlands Yellow 3,944]

4 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

Boris may be angling for a Ministerial job. Don't want to waste that wallpaper. And Lulu hasn't had any work since.

Mr **** is shortening even more, 13/5 now in minutes. 

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

Mr Rees-Mogg said he had not seen any bullying when the vote took place.

Nothing other than the usual ducking stool for women and the rack for men said Mr Mogg, from his office, Spanish Inquisition Inc.

[ricardo 7,348]

3 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

Mr Rees-Mogg said he had not seen any bullying when the vote took place.

Nothing other than the usual ducking stool for women and the rack for men said Mr Mogg, from his office, Spanish Inquisition Inc.

without the glasses Mogg puts you in the mind of Luca Brasi in the Godfather.

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2 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

Mr Rees-Mogg said he had not seen any bullying when the vote took place.

Nothing other than the usual ducking stool for women and the rack for men said Mr Mogg, from his office, Spanish Inquisition Inc.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition, Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, and surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again….

[Barry Brockes 145]

Looking at it from a Tory MPs point if view who is the most likely person to keep them in a job after the next GE? And that's all they're interested in. They know BJ will promise/lie whatever it takes to win a GE. Some other candidates have a modicum of honesty and decency whereas BJ has none. However I'm sure we'll hear plenty of 'I've learned my lesson and am a changed man'.

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14 minutes ago, ricardo said:

Yes, markets seem content that the men in grey suits have knocked heads together.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cx250jmk4e7t/pound-sterling-gbp

Ricardo, the markets can only stabilise until the new PM comes in. Most of the policies brought in were u turned by the new chancellor so therefore the markets had already moved as fast as they could. Any new leader coming in will not see any major changes as there is nothing else they can really do, the actions taken by Truss trashed the U.K. economy meaning the new PM whoever that maybe will have no option but to make massive spending cuts.

You are trying quite clearly to say this is a world thing, it isn’t in 45 days Truss has absoloutely trashed the U.K. 

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If no one has shown it.

 

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

9 minutes ago, ricardo said:

without the glasses Mogg puts you in the mind of Luca Brasi in the Godfather.

"Its an old Sicilian message. Luca Brasi sleeps with the fishes"

"And jolly happy fish they are too"

[Well b back 3,190]

5 minutes ago, Barry Brockes said:

Looking at it from a Tory MPs point if view who is the most likely person to keep them in a job after the next GE? And that's all they're interested in. They know BJ will promise/lie whatever it takes to win a GE. Some other candidates have a modicum of honesty and decency whereas BJ has none. However I'm sure we'll hear plenty of 'I've learned my lesson and am a changed man'.

Yes indeed. Just heard Fabricant saying Boris is the man and we will need to put controls in at number 10 to help him. 
I guess he is saying you put in place somebody totally dishonest but let him speak only when it suits them to allow him to do so. 

[ricardo 7,348]

10 minutes ago, Well b back said:

Ricardo, the markets can only stabilise until the new PM comes in. Most of the policies brought in were u turned by the new chancellor so therefore the markets had already moved as fast as they could. Any new leader coming in will not see any major changes as there is nothing else they can really do, the actions taken by Truss trashed the U.K. economy meaning the new PM whoever that maybe will have no option but to make massive spending cuts.

You are trying quite clearly to say this is a world thing, it isn’t in 45 days Truss has absoloutely trashed the U.K. 

it most definitely is a world thing.

Every currency is down 20% or more against the dollar. Commodities ( metals, fuel, food) are priced in dollars.

China zero Covid policy constrains supply worldwide.

Ukraine war prevents shipments of grain and fertilisers from the worlds biggest growers and manufacturers.

 

 Truss or anyone else in this country doesn't have that long a reach. What we have in the UK is a very little local problem in comparison.

Edited October 20, 2022 by ricardo

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1 minute ago, ricardo said:

Commoditities

Is that another word for an investment in Pornhub?

[ricardo 7,348]

1 minute ago, canarydan23 said:

Is that another word for an investment in Pornhub?

well spotted. you eyes were drawn to it I guess.

[Well b back 3,190]

2 minutes ago, ricardo said:

it most definitely is a world thing.

Every currency is down 20% or more against the dollar. Commoditities ( metals, fuel, food) are priced in dollars.

China zero Covid policy constrains supply worldwide.

Ukraine war prevents shipments of grain and fertilisers from the worlds biggest growers and manufacturers.

 

 Truss or anyone else in this country doesn't have that long a reach.

Sorry I don’t do Trumpism anymore.

Yes parts of what ‘ was ‘ happening was a world thing. What happened ‘ recently ‘ to trash our economy was a Truss thing.

[KiwiScot 1,437]

2 hours ago, keelansgrandad said:

If Bravermann is elected, as a pensioner scrounging the pension and with my Communist, Jewish background I had better look for a rubber dinghy somewhere along the Kent coast - going the other way.

Watch your step I fear you've been "awarded" a luxury one way holiday to Rwanda!

[ricardo 7,348]

6 minutes ago, Well b back said:

Sorry I don’t do Trumpism anymore.

Yes parts of what ‘ was ‘ happening was a world thing. What happened ‘ recently ‘ to trash our economy was a Truss thing.

She certainly didn't make things better but had little or no effect on world events.

I guess the Turks are cursing Truss for their 80% inflation and her name is mud in Germany and Spain where its also 10%.

I suggest you look at the world instead of just our back yard.

ps.    just noticed its 14.5% in the Netherlands, I bet they think its all our fault.

 

Edited October 20, 2022 by ricardo

[Herman 9,717]

7 minutes ago, Well b back said:

Sorry I don’t do Trumpism anymore.

Yes parts of what ‘ was ‘ happening was a world thing. What happened ‘ recently ‘ to trash our economy was a Truss thing.

Ricardo has struggled with facts for a few years now.