McCallum back to Coventry

[cambridgeshire canary 6,675]

1 minute ago, Sadlerman said:

 

Gibson at left back? I mean, I can see Aarons and Mumba there but Gibson? nahhh pull the other one

[Hank shoots Skyler 2,094]

3 minutes ago, Sadlerman said:

 

We must be pretty confident we can keep Aarons then! Or have we got someone else lined up? 

Can’t say I’m a fan of this ‘can do a job there’ approach for our second choice player in a specialist position. More understandable when it is a safety net option for third choice, but second? Imagine whoever gets chosen will see a lot of game time there! 

Also have to admit I’m slightly glad Rupp hasn’t been suggested here as the back up option, much better to have a full back in that position a la Bryam last season. I think we’d be serious hindered as an attacking force playing him (or any player with similar attributes) in a full back position.

[BroadstairsR 2,138]

We paid £3.5m for him I seem to remember, and also that he was interesting larger clubs at the time (Liverpool?)

At twenty this action seems par for the course with the way we develop these youngsters (eg. Madisson.) Difference not to a lower league club.

When SM first signed he was immediately loaned to Coventry and played a further eight games. Now he's off there again.

Perhaps it was part of the sale deal?

We did well to land him from all accounts. 

That Coventry are in our league now is slightly off-putting .... but there is a release clause for January and he won't be able to play against us either.

Edited September 20, 2020 by BroadstairsR

[Sadlerman 0]

In the bigger picture, if this leads to a 5 at the back system where does that leave Cantwell and Buendia fitting in?

I'd imagine Farke would go with 3 centre backs with Wing backs employed. 3 centre midfielders and maybe a no 10 behind the lone striker. 

Or maybe we'll even see 2 up top?

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,777]

1 minute ago, Sadlerman said:

In the bigger picture, if this leads to a 5 at the back system where does that leave Cantwell and Buendia fitting in?

I'd imagine Farke would go with 3 centre backs with Wing backs employed. 3 centre midfielders and maybe a no 10 behind the lone striker. 

Or maybe we'll even see 2 up top?

I'd imagine it would be more of a 3-4-2-1, which would basically mean that an extra centre back gets brought in to replace one of the attacking midfield three, or if we're being aggressive and either Placheta or Hernandez plays as the left wing back then it means a centre back replaces a full back (Quintilla).

[Ward 3 371]

We have savior rupp who can play full back if needed. Greaaaaaat anything to keep that tool in our ranks

[cambridgeshire canary 6,675]

9 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

I'd imagine it would be more of a 3-4-2-1, which would basically mean that an extra centre back gets brought in to replace one of the attacking midfield three, or if we're being aggressive and either Placheta or Hernandez plays as the left wing back then it means a centre back replaces a full back (Quintilla).

Much as I would not mind seeing us play this kind of formation- It does lead the the obvious questions of what about an attacking midfielder? Where does this leave Dowell? And we all know how lonely Pukki can sometimes look up top without any support.. So without an attacking mid behind him I'm not sure this is the way to go

[Indy 3,283]

3 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Much as I would not mind seeing us play this kind of formation- It does lead the the obvious questions of what about an attacking midfielder? Where does this leave Dowell? And we all know how lonely Pukki can sometimes look up top without any support.. So without an attacking mid behind him I'm not sure this is the way to go

No way, that’s far too negative for this league! We don’t need Tettey and Skipp with three at the back! It’ll be more a diamond with Skipp behind a Cantwell or Dowell.

Edited September 20, 2020 by Indy

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,777]

10 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Much as I would not mind seeing us play this kind of formation- It does lead the the obvious questions of what about an attacking midfielder? Where does this leave Dowell? And we all know how lonely Pukki can sometimes look up top without any support.. So without an attacking mid behind him I'm not sure this is the way to go

The two positions you have Placheta and Buendia in wouldn't be that wide. The wing-backs would provide the width and the two supporting Pukki would be much narrower. Dowell, Cantwell and Buendia could all play in those positions quite comfortably.

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,735]

9 minutes ago, Indy said:

No way, that’s far too negative for this league! We don’t need Tettey and Skipp with three at the back! It’ll be more a diamond with Skipp behind a Cantwell or Dowell.

Agreed

Southgate got hammered for playing this exact system vs Denmark ( Not France or Brazil !) ...and rightly so

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,777]

3-4-2-1 is not a negative system, by the way. As with any formation, it depends on the players you have in it. Borussia Dortmund and Atalanta both use a 3-4-2-1 and they use it in a very aggressive, attacking manner and score goals for fun.

[cambridgeshire canary 6,675]

3 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

Agreed

Southgate got hammered for playing this exact system vs Denmark ( Not France or Brazil !) ...and rightly so

Indeed- Three at the back with two defensive midfielders might be a "safe" choice but god is it mindnumbingly dull to watch

[yellowrider120 761]

3 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Indeed- Three at the back with two defensive midfielders might be a "safe" choice but god is it mindnumbingly dull to watch

Agreed - you can forget about winning the league if Farke goes with this idea as it means leaving out a second striker / attacking player. On the subject of 'wing backs', if you play 3 centre backs + the wing backs that's effectively a back FIVE when the opposition attack down the flanks. Aarons and Quintilla may be 'good going forward' but they are full backs. End of.

[Tetteys Jig 830]

Bit of an unexpected one, if we get a fee and he gets some experience at this level then perhaps it'll work out for the best.

Glad we can recall in Jan if required as well, that could be big if we do have another injury crisis.

I suspect Gibson would be the cover there with Hernandez in front of him meaning we have a kind of hybrid 4-2-3-1/5-2-2-1WB system with Gibson one of 3 CBs and Hernandez at left WB.

Its a luxury at this level to have a massive squad as essentialy we are paying a lot of money out to players that just won't end up playing so we have to be flexible with it. Of course its a risk as Xavi could get injured this week but if he makes that spot his own then McCallum is best off playing elsewhere for now.

[Disco Dales Jockstrap 1,891]

Never been a fan of square pegs in round holes. I think a team that sees itself as genuine promotion contenders should have as few of them as possible.

That said, I'd consider using Rupp as a corner flag.

Can't see us playing 3 centre backs often as that would need us to actually have 3 fit centre backs on a consistent basis as well as keeping Godfrey. Two of our five centre backs appear to be made of glass.

OTBC

[yellowrider120 761]

52 minutes ago, Hank shoots Skyler said:

We must be pretty confident we can keep Aarons then! Or have we got someone else lined up? 

Can’t say I’m a fan of this ‘can do a job there’ approach for our second choice player in a specialist position. More understandable when it is a safety net option for third choice, but second? Imagine whoever gets chosen will see a lot of game time there! 

Also have to admit I’m slightly glad Rupp hasn’t been suggested here as the back up option, much better to have a full back in that position a la Bryam last season. I think we’d be serious hindered as an attacking force playing him (or any player with similar attributes) in a full back position.

Me neither. Surely, SM was signed as the potential replacement for Jamal and has since slipped way down the pecking order. Clearly we have no idea as to the real reason for this so can but speculate. It may still work out for him but I doubt it. Writing was on the wall the moment Quintilla signed. Can't believe those who are saying 'Godfrey can play there'. Sure he can but when anyone suggests that he 'can play defensive midfield', that idea is ridiculed because Farke has dismissed it. Fitting square pegs into round holes rarely works and should only be used in an emergency situation. If Farke now doesn't get someone in, he's setting himself up for a real fall should Quintilla get injured or be less than adequate defensively.      

[Nuff Said 5,089]

Personally, I think this a great move. Not for our football, but it has reignited the Scapegoat of the Season competition, with Rupp getting a lot of abuse purely for being an option at left back. An unexpected boost for him when McLean was head and shoulders above the rest of the field. I’d still say Kenny is leading the pack at the moment though.

[Kenny Foggo 1,116]

I hope this is because he has not settled and is not happy because otherwise we have wasted money on a guy that is no good and that would mean our scouting system and the people making the decisions are that great..... Bizarre all round!

Reckon he is not settling into Norwich life. Hope he is not allowed to play against us.

[TeemuVanBasten 3,327]

Don't understand this clubs decisions sometimes. Bizarre risk if we aren't bringing in another left back.

Steipermann back up left back then! 

[Jersey Canary 143]

2 hours ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

So Aarons moves to the left...who plays on the right?

Rupp isnt a full back

Mumba

[TeemuVanBasten 3,327]

1 hour ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

 

We saw what happened last season when we didn't have specialist cover in a position. Playing Rupp, Aarons or Godfrey at left back is no better than playing Amadou and Tettey at centre back.

Going through a 46-game season with just one left back and then relying on square pegs in round holes worries me greatly, so I really hope this means we'll bring in another specialist left back.

 

I can't see Coventry challenging and McCallum won't be able to play against us whereas he can play against our rivals. If anything, this move hinders our direct competition.

Would be Marco at left back surely.

 

[Mr Angry 1,545]

1 hour ago, lake district canary said:

My idea of pretty good is that they are more than capable of covering those positions. Godfrey could play virtually anywhere on the pitch and do a good job. 

That’s up there with the Declan Rudd could be as good as De Gea argument. Although to be fair, Rudd’s mistake for Pukki’s goal was in the same league as some of De Gea’s recent howlers.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

Damn. I wish the coaching staff would read the posts on here before making decisions.

We have 32 players in the squad. It would be daft if McCallum is such a prospect to have him not even benchwarming. An we have a plethora of defenders and 5 CB's plus Famewo who can play left back. So the options are there for three at the back even if Max goes.

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,777]

23 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

Would be Marco at left back surely.

 

Which is every bit as worrying as Rupp or Godfrey. Stiepermann didn't exactly shine when he was shoehorned there in the past.

Relying on Quintilla staying fit and at peak performance for 46 games in a shortened season and/or trying to put midfielders or centre backs there would be incredibly risky. 

[Canary dwarf 221]

It seems a very strange decision , a few weeks ago we had quintilla , lewis , mccallum , all fighting for one position and then there was one , very risky.😂

[FenwayFrank 2,456]

Rob Nizet ?

[NeymarSmith 130]

2 hours ago, birchfest said:

I must confess this one gets me scratching my head a little. When we signed him I was under the impression that he was going to step into any potential void created by Lewis leaving, especially off the back of the transfer fee we paid and contributing to a Coventry promotion season. I actually was thinking he would be fighting for a start each week.

 

However, one thing many might not be taking into account is how little football he has played due to League 1 not having a re-start, I guess the club think its essential he goes out and starts playing football again.

Really? You thought he would be a ready made replacement for Jamal and quality would be the same from him. Come on, this is what will happen losing the crown jewels

[Nuff Said 5,089]

3 minutes ago, FenwayFrank said:

Rob Nizet ?

I had to search to see if that’s a player or you’d just accidentally leant on your keyboard Frank. 

[Coneys Knee 941]

Maybe Nizet is closer than we realise. After all, Lewis and Aarons both sprung out of nowhere.

[kirku 1,332]

This is just preparation for the news we've all been waiting for.

The return of James Husband.

Edited September 20, 2020 by kirku