Tetteys Jig 830 Posted August 27, 2020 To add to that, surely the vibe they are going for is to be an extension to the environment you are watching the coverage in. For that reason they need to keep a bit of informality up like they are down the pub but equally and perhaps more so these days, people are tuning in online or at home hence why they need to freshen things up a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: I agree that he's very likeable, and he is quite amusing at time with his exchanges with the other panellists. But I just think that a prerequisite for a pundit should be a good standard of English. Merson and other occasional guests like Tony Cottee and Clinton Morrison just don't seen to have it and for that reason, it just dumbs the whole programme down and doesn't send a great message to the public, particularly younger viewers. its the "Robbie Savage" role in a way, generally have deluded opinions that stoke interest from triggered viewers yet in respect to both, they both have been there and done it and had great careers so you still listen. You don't want it too dry and high brow as that just isn't the audience. Save that for the Sunday supplement. I think Merse does play up to it a bit as well, don't think he's as stupid as he's made out to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,703 Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Tetteys Jig said: its the "Robbie Savage" role in a way, generally have deluded opinions that stoke interest from triggered viewers yet in respect to both, they both have been there and done it and had great careers so you still listen. You don't want it too dry and high brow as that just isn't the audience. Save that for the Sunday supplement. I think Merse does play up to it a bit as well, don't think he's as stupid as he's made out to be. You're correct with all your points, even though on a personal level I disagree with them. I personally can't stand Robbie Savage or the 'Savage role'. It doesn't stoke interest for me; it just makes me turn off. I also agree that Soccer Saturday shouldn't be high brow, but at the same time, the guests should at least speak properly. As for Merson playing up to his 'court jester' role, I think so too. It's funny to an extent, but as I said before, it still bugs me when he talks like a six-year-old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted August 27, 2020 thats the culture we're in. Happens with some of my mates, I'll try make a serious point and just get labelled boring. I guess its about reading the room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,066 Posted August 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Tetteys Jig said: its the "Robbie Savage" role in a way, generally have deluded opinions that stoke interest from triggered viewers yet in respect to both, they both have been there and done it and had great careers so you still listen. You don't want it too dry and high brow as that just isn't the audience. Save that for the Sunday supplement. I think Merse does play up to it a bit as well, don't think he's as stupid as he's made out to be. They're getting rid of that. https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/sunday-supplement-cancelled-by-sky-sports-a4517891.html Means that some self-important journos won't be boring us on a Sunday, obviously a big blow for the Croissant supplier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,703 Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tetteys Jig said: thats the culture we're in. Happens with some of my mates, I'll try make a serious point and just get labelled boring. I guess its about reading the room. It isn't about being interesting/boring or serious/jovial. It's about speaking properly. You can still be fun and make jokes whilst using a decent standard of English. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted August 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said: They're getting rid of that. https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/sunday-supplement-cancelled-by-sky-sports-a4517891.html Means that some self-important journos won't be boring us on a Sunday, obviously a big blow for the Croissant supplier. yeah I'd seen that actually... what are they replacing it with? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CANARYKING 634 Posted August 27, 2020 If there is a worse pundit than Garth Crooks , please tell me 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkbroadslim 223 Posted August 27, 2020 They could do a lot worse than poaching Jermaine Jenas. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,807 Posted August 27, 2020 I just want Bjorge Lillelien doing the commentary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,066 Posted August 27, 2020 Scott Minto is the next to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted August 27, 2020 I suspect as more come to realise you can watch all of it for free subscriptions are falling off - something that will only continue as unemployment continues to rise You have to wonder then how the drop in Sky income will impact on their ability to pay the PL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orly 277 Posted August 27, 2020 1 hour ago, norfolkbroadslim said: They could do a lot worse than poaching Jermaine Jenas. I'd prefer to fry him, personally. Lots of seasoning too, because he's so bland at speaking, imagine what he'd taste like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaunieboy77 72 Posted August 27, 2020 As long as Jeff is the host, that's all that counts. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drazen Muzinic 1,421 Posted August 27, 2020 13 hours ago, Tired said: I wonder how Merson would get on trying to pronounce Przemysław Płacheta He has two options - 'The Polish Lad' or 'The Boy From Poland'. He would still manage to get it wrong though because he's probably looking at the wrong player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,825 Posted August 27, 2020 I thought a few on here might be headhunted for guest slots next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,825 Posted August 27, 2020 3 hours ago, CANARYKING said: If there is a worse pundit than Garth Crooks , please tell me Barry Venison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,425 Posted August 27, 2020 1 hour ago, shaunieboy77 said: As long as Jeff is the host, that's all that counts. When he says “ we’ll be back in 60 seconds, you can count them if you want “ I could smack him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted August 27, 2020 Soccer AM is another one that has passed its sell by date. Lads culture isn't funny anymore. And every Transfer deadline they wheel out Jim White. As if he is some expert at Transfers. And they send someone to stand outside training grounds to prattle on about someone no-one has heard of who isn't signing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WD40 720 Posted August 27, 2020 Old white men and chesty birds, Sky have nailed their demographic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,703 Posted August 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: Soccer AM is another one that has passed its sell by date. Lads culture isn't funny anymore. And every Transfer deadline they wheel out Jim White. As if he is some expert at Transfers. And they send someone to stand outside training grounds to prattle on about someone no-one has heard of who isn't signing. Soccer AM passed its sell by date when Tim Lovejoy left. That was 2007. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,657 Posted August 27, 2020 7 hours ago, Mello Yello said: With a spitting image of him?...... Roy will be taking his place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted August 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, WD40 said: Old white men and chesty birds, Sky have nailed their demographic. might as well go full Italy. Here's one of their lovely presenters... NINTCHDBPICT000528126158.webp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,657 Posted August 27, 2020 5 hours ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: I can't recall ever seeing her, to be honest. Let me help you wacky. I have found this in my files. 😜 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Angry 1,512 Posted August 27, 2020 40 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: Soccer AM passed its sell by date when Tim Lovejoy left. That was 2007. Deffo 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted August 27, 2020 56 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said: Let me help you wacky. I have found this in my files. 😜 That's one of Swindon's ex girlfriends Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,425 Posted August 27, 2020 5 hours ago, A Load of Squit said: Scott Minto is the next to go. You knew ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,070 Posted August 27, 2020 5 hours ago, CANARYKING said: If there is a worse pundit than Garth Crooks , please tell me David Pleat. I don't think he does it anymore but him and Crooks are (were) definitely the worst. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Bennett 768 Posted August 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Midlands Yellow said: Barry Venison. He was game though. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,265 Posted August 27, 2020 I paid £80.00 for 8 legs of venison....Do you think it was too dear?..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites