littleyellowbirdie 2,510 Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, How I Wrote Elastic Man said: GB News - Brexit revolt looms over Sunak deal Not news, I think we all know their position on this. The interesting part for me is this: "However, Johnson also faced backlash for his Brexit intervention as Penny Mordaunt, the Commons leader, claimed it was “not entirely unhelpful”." Can't a journalist spot a double negative? A good standard of english should be mandatory for people who want to work in this profession To be fair, if it's a direct attributable quote from Penny Mordaunt said as presented, then it's fine as far as the journalism is concerned; the grammar query should be directed at Penny Mordaunt. Also, it's debatable whether it is a full-on double negative given the presence of 'entirely' in there, which gives the nuance that it could be considered as unhelpful for the most part, but helpful in a small part. But I don't know nuffink. Edited February 20, 2023 by littleyellowbirdie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,181 Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said: To be fair, if it's a direct attributable quote from Penny Mordaunt said as presented, then it's fine as far as the journalism is concerned; the grammar query should be directed at Penny Mordaunt. Also, it's debatable whether it is a full-on double negative given the presence of 'entirely' in there, which gives the nuance that it could be considered as unhelpful for the most part, but helpful in a small part. But I don't know nuffink. I think Mordaunts comment was actually slightly different, but that isn't the issue https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-ni-intervention-not-entirely-unhelpful-says-commons-leader-penny-mordaunt/1147937992.html The issue is GB news claimed this was a "backlash" against Johnson, which it clearly isn't Edit - According to the Belfast Telegraph, the comment was "She added: “Well, Boris is being Boris. But I wouldn't say this is a completely unhelpful intervention" Edited February 20, 2023 by How I Wrote Elastic Man 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,510 Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, How I Wrote Elastic Man said: I think Mordaunts comment was actually slightly different, but that isn't the issue https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-ni-intervention-not-entirely-unhelpful-says-commons-leader-penny-mordaunt/1147937992.html The issue is GB news claimed this was a "backlash" against Johnson, which it clearly isn't Edit - According to the Belfast Telegraph, the comment was "She added: “Well, Boris is being Boris. But I wouldn't say this is a completely unhelpful intervention" I guess the whole lot of them are getting sloppy, seeing as the Guardian also ran with 'not entirely unhelpful'. It does come to something when they can't even get quotes down accurately. Other sources say 'not completely unhelpful'. I know it's a synonym, but even so... https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/19/boris-johnson-northern-ireland-brexit-row-penny-mordaunt Edit: I now see what you were driving at, and yes, it's bizarre. Edited February 20, 2023 by littleyellowbirdie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted February 20, 2023 One during the rugby as the TMO was asked to judge whether it was a try or not. He replied "I cannot give you a reason why I cannot award a try." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,578 Posted February 28, 2023 Just completely farcical. A Tory MP invites another Tory MP onto his show under the banner of unbiased news. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,932 Posted February 28, 2023 41 minutes ago, king canary said: Just completely farcical. A Tory MP invites another Tory MP onto his show under the banner of unbiased news. "I am feel honored to have been asked to be his first guest". Jeez, did he think his grammar caught Covid once? 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooreMarriot 307 Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, king canary said: Just completely farcical. A Tory MP invites another Tory MP onto his show under the banner of unbiased news. Never watched it .......was it something like this : Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted March 9, 2023 Racks up £30M loss in first year. Advertising revenue less than £3M. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,181 Posted April 21, 2023 Good to see GB News offering training to its journalists 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,747 Posted April 21, 2023 They could always have a comedy hour - Jools interviewing Hooky.... or is it the other way round? All contributions to the local hospitals. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,190 Posted April 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Yellow Fever said: They could always have a comedy hour - Jools interviewing Hooky.... or is it the other way round? All contributions to the local hospitals. He would need a mirror to interview himself 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,715 Posted April 22, 2023 7 hours ago, Well b back said: He would need a mirror to interview himself 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hook's-Walk-Canary 213 Posted April 24, 2023 On 09/03/2023 at 15:08, keelansgrandad said: Racks up £30M loss in first year. Advertising revenue less than £3M. The BBC racked up over £42 million in losses last year and that's with the UK population being forced to stump up for a license fee or be fined heavily and/or jailed. It should be done now, but let's see how the BBC fares when public funding is abolished. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted April 25, 2023 12 hours ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said: The BBC racked up over £42 million in losses last year and that's with the UK population being forced to stump up for a license fee or be fined heavily and/or jailed. It should be done now, but let's see how the BBC fares when public funding is abolished. I know you won't accept it but the BBC is independent. GB News is a right wing platform. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hook's-Walk-Canary 213 Posted April 25, 2023 12 hours ago, keelansgrandad said: GB News is a right wing platform. Aye, especially with the likes of Benjamin Butterworth featuring on a daily basis, lols.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,578 Posted April 26, 2023 8 hours ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said: Aye, especially with the likes of Benjamin Butterworth featuring on a daily basis, lols.. You're genuinely amazingly thick. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,747 Posted April 26, 2023 6 hours ago, Herman said: 4 hours ago, king canary said: You're genuinely amazingly thick. I watched this yes and its quite funny. What's sad is that 'GB News' passes itself off as a 'news' channel. As to Jools/Hooky - have to remember that it's one person split between between multiple accounts each with a portion of the IQ of a normal person. It's a wonder he manages to keep them semi-separate at all until of course he doesn't. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted April 26, 2023 7 hours ago, Herman said: If he only took that silver spoon out of his mouth, he might tell the truth. So many Tory MPs have been allowed to go on this channel to make Party Political Broadcasts. And continue to cover up the lies they made in 2016. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hook's-Walk-Canary 213 Posted April 26, 2023 7 hours ago, king canary said: You're genuinely amazingly thick. Oh, hark at the self-professed proofreader who has failed to put a comma after genuinely in the above sentence. GB News is predominantly conservative, but unlike most of the lefty MSM it at least allows opposition. That's the point I was making with Butterworth, 'though Gloria De Piero being a presenter there would probably have been a better example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,578 Posted April 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said: Oh, hark at the self-professed proofreader who has failed to put a comma after genuinely in the above sentence. GB News is predominantly conservative, but unlike most of the lefty MSM it at least allows opposition. That's the point I was making with Butterworth, 'though Gloria De Piero being a presenter there would probably have been a better example. Errrm, you realise for me to 'self-professed' anything I'd have to have, y'know, professed it myself. If you can find me calling myself a proof-reader (which, by the way, requires a hyphen) it'll be news to me. They occasionally let on a token lefty, whoop de doo. If you think GB News is somehow open to opposition while the BBC which goes painfully far out of its way, often to its detriment, in the name of balance that says a lot about you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,715 Posted April 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Yellow Fever said: I watched this yes and its quite funny. What's sad is that 'GB News' passes itself off as a 'news' channel. As to Jools/Hooky - have to remember that it's one person split between between multiple accounts each with a portion of the IQ of a normal person. It's a wonder he manages to keep them semi-separate at all until of course he doesn't. 2 hours ago, keelansgrandad said: If he only took that silver spoon out of his mouth, he might tell the truth. So many Tory MPs have been allowed to go on this channel to make Party Political Broadcasts. And continue to cover up the lies they made in 2016. A channel that calls and advertises itself a news channel (quite literally), that employs many tory MPs, is not a news channel according to Ofcom so it doesn't break any impartiality/balance rules that other news channels have to strictly abide by . It's rotten to the core. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hook's-Walk-Canary 213 Posted April 26, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, king canary said: They occasionally let on a token lefty, whoop de doo. If you think GB News is somehow open to opposition while the BBC which goes painfully far out of its way, often to its detriment, in the name of balance that says a lot about you. And that one paragraph says all I need to know about you and that is you're a f****** idiot --- Answer me the following questions in order to prove to me you're not the latter.. Name me one rightwing (token or otherwise) presenter at the BBC? Why was a public inquiry into the Lefty bias at the BBC necessary? Why has BBC boss Tim Davie admitted being embarrassed about lefty bias staff at the corporation? Why are the majority of BBC licence paying Brits opposed to the licence fee? I could go on and on with the questions. I could provide a myriad examples of BBC Lefty bias, especially in the Lefty employee only recruitment field... 'The BBC goes painfully out of its way, often to its detriment' 😀 Wrong, KC, the following is a small slice of what causes the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation detriment and it's called bias of the first degree: Edited April 26, 2023 by Hook's-Walk-Canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,510 Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said: And that one paragraph says all I need to know about you and that is you're a f****** idiot --- Answer me the following questions in order to prove to me you're not the latter.. Name me one rightwing (token or otherwise) presenter at the BBC? Why was a public inquiry into the Lefty bias at the BBC necessary? Why has BBC boss Tim Davie admitted being embarrassed about lefty bias staff at the corporation? Why are the majority of BBC licence paying Brits opposed to the licence fee? I could go on and on with the questions. I could provide a myriad examples of BBC Lefty bias, especially in the Lefty employee only recruitment field... 'The BBC goes painfully out of its way, often to its detriment' 😀 Wrong, KC, the following is a small slice of what causes the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation detriment and it's called bias of the first degree: Comparing the sheer dishonesty of describing 'GB News' as news and the frequent challenges over impartiality to the BBC is just daft, especially when you consider the BBC gets complaints about impartiality from across the spectrum. The fact that Andrew Neil, hardly a lefty, but a massively well-respected journalist who spent many years as a top BBC political commentator, literally walked away from 'GB News' and was in tears recounting the experience having invested so much of his own reputation into it should tell you all you need to know. As to that clip, it's very hard to judge how that might be biased with no information presented in the clip regarding the headlines being covered. Edit: Having looked it up, she was gleeful over Boris Johnson not running in the Conservative leadership race. The complaint against her was upheld by the BBC as a breach of impartiality rules. However, as to 'bias' it should be remembered that a very large chunk of the Conservative party was responsible for ousting him as PM; I don't think anyone could accuse them of lefty bias even if they were doubtless as pleased that he was remaining out of the picture. Edited April 27, 2023 by littleyellowbirdie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,715 Posted April 27, 2023 Jools is just going through his greatest hits. It's nonsense, he knows this, but he has to pump it out for some semblance of relevance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted April 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Herman said: Jools is just going through his greatest hits. It's nonsense, he knows this, but he has to pump it out for some semblance of relevance. He always ends up defending the indefensible. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,128 Posted April 28, 2023 If they had more content like this then they'd get lots more viewers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,578 Posted April 28, 2023 On 27/04/2023 at 08:31, littleyellowbirdie said: Comparing the sheer dishonesty of describing 'GB News' as news and the frequent challenges over impartiality to the BBC is just daft, especially when you consider the BBC gets complaints about impartiality from across the spectrum. The fact that Andrew Neil, hardly a lefty, but a massively well-respected journalist who spent many years as a top BBC political commentator, literally walked away from 'GB News' and was in tears recounting the experience having invested so much of his own reputation into it should tell you all you need to know. As to that clip, it's very hard to judge how that might be biased with no information presented in the clip regarding the headlines being covered. Edit: Having looked it up, she was gleeful over Boris Johnson not running in the Conservative leadership race. The complaint against her was upheld by the BBC as a breach of impartiality rules. However, as to 'bias' it should be remembered that a very large chunk of the Conservative party was responsible for ousting him as PM; I don't think anyone could accuse them of lefty bias even if they were doubtless as pleased that he was remaining out of the picture. Worth remembering he also called Sky news 'Lefty' a day or two ago so I think we know where his personal Overton window is at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hook's-Walk-Canary 213 Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, king canary said: Worth remembering he also called Sky news 'Lefty' a day or two ago so I think we know where his personal Overton window is at. Apologies, I forgot these two were far-right: Maybe you were thinking of SKY NEWS AUSTRALIA who are certainly conservative. Edited April 28, 2023 by Hook's-Walk-Canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites