Seasons expectations?

[norfolkngood 1,086]

35 minutes ago, sonyc said:

Expectations currently are 4th to 8th. I am neither bullish or bearish. We ought to be competitive though unlike last season.

Yet, I'm somehow expecting a slow start to the campaign and  wouldn't be surprised if we lost the opening game either...I just don't know what we are going to be like. It is so difficult to predict at this moment. Those first 10/12 games will tell us what we need to know. After a quarter of the season the trends are set for either struggle or dominance. Only occasionally do teams hit real form later into a season. 

 

i am most worried about Pukki 

True he was up against better defenders , better League and in a struggling team

but he lost his Confidence badly can he regain that ? 

With the Squad we have today with only real loss Lewis we should do very well this season 

top 2 if Pukki finds his Goalscoring boots  anywhere down to 10th if he does not 

[Petriix 2,835]

Heart says 2nd;

Head says 8th.

[sonyc 5,514]

3 minutes ago, norfolkngood said:

i am most worried about Pukki 

True he was up against better defenders , better League and in a struggling team

but he lost his Confidence badly can he regain that ? 

With the Squad we have today with only real loss Lewis we should do very well this season 

top 2 if Pukki finds his Goalscoring boots  anywhere down to 10th if he does not 

I think he should be okay for 15 goals at least and hopefully a lot more. I'm worried too but class normally holds out and Teemu has that. It depends how he is supplied (Placheta, Buendia, Onel?) ....think we may be surprised too in Dowell as he has goals in him. 

[norfolkngood 1,086]

10 minutes ago, sonyc said:

I think he should be okay for 15 goals at least and hopefully a lot more. I'm worried too but class normally holds out and Teemu has that. It depends how he is supplied (Placheta, Buendia, Onel?) ....think we may be surprised too in Dowell as he has goals in him. 

Very true he has Class just got to get his form 

i know it is only clips i have seen But i would love to see Placheta upfront in a Two or at a number 10 his pace to get past last man is unbelievable 

[CirclePoint 200]

21 hours ago, Tetteys Jig said:

The signings of Skipp on loan with no permanent option and the fact we have (for now) kept nearly all our best players means we simply have to be targeting instant promotion. If we fail with that this season, they'll all be gone and it will become harder and harder the longer we go without going up.

I agree. The timing of Webber’s plan ( determined by the expiration date on the current contracts) requires we gain promotion this season. Doing so will give the club the position to extend attractive contracts to players who wish to stay.

Failing to gain promotion will probably see a major team sell-off, since the players will more than likely only have one season remaining on their contracts and the club will want to cash in and........ the rebuild begins........ again.

[CirclePoint 200]

20 minutes ago, Petriix said:

Heart says 2nd;

Head says 8th.

Heart says 1st

Head says 2nd

😉

[Canary dwarf 221]

2 minutes ago, CirclePoint said:

Heart says 1st

Head says 2nd

😉

I think once farke knows his best 11 and best formation we will tear it up, but i think we will start slowly ,and we don't know if there will be anymore outgoings.

[Parma Ham's gone mouldy 2,219]

The pressure is on this season. There is no hiding from it and nor should there be.

The model in effect traded a Premier League for this season. The signings show a weighty (in numbers) investment in depth and indicate that dominating at a level we are financially comfortable at is the platform. 

The key was and remains the real weapons of Pukki and Buendia. Everything else is expendable, replaceable or growable. Goals and assists are wisps of gold thread in the wind and cover a multitude of sins.

Statistics show that relegated teams mostly struggle. Our model sacrificed a Premier dream for increasing the odds of success and pulling power this season, so we are overtly designed to buck that trend. 

Top 6 must be a minimum target. It is the minimum target. Professional football. No hiding place. 

Parma 

[Canary dwarf 221]

Top 2 providing we lose no more of a re crown jewels. 

Edited September 10, 2020 by Canary dwarf

[mannings bandy legs 385]

1 hour ago, norfolkngood said:

i am most worried about Pukki 

True he was up against better defenders , better League and in a struggling team

but he lost his Confidence badly can he regain that ? 

With the Squad we have today with only real loss Lewis we should do very well this season 

top 2 if Pukki finds his Goalscoring boots  anywhere down to 10th if he does not 

Pukki will be fine. Played well and looked sharp for Finland v Republic of Ireland earlier this week.Just needs a bit of luck to get up and running.

[Fr. Chewy Louie 137]

Everything looks in place for a charge at the top spot, but there are a fair few new signings to settle in, and I'm sure at least one or two won't live up to expectations.

With the congested timetable and no glaring weaknesses in our (big) squad though, there should be no excuses for being outside the top 6 at the very least.

Love Farke, but off the back of 12 defeats and a pretty miserable Prem campaign, he needs to deliver.

 

[Essjayess 307]

Chewy brought up a couple of important points, one that we have 11 new guys...individually some of them make my mouth water at what they could do in the Champs, but as a team some time may be needed before the new guys settle in with the older guys, also for DF it will take some weeks at least and a fair few matches before he  feels he knows what his main starters will be, to expect our players all to gel as a new unit from the get go is unrealistic.

Secondly, after 12 straight competitive defeats we  need to break that continuous losing streak, even if its a boring  nil all draw. Its true that relegated clubs  dropping from the Prem  mostly find it hard the first season back in the Champs, but with our club...well...they seem to defy logic a lot of times and ignore  normal everyday  records and make things up as they go along...for both good and bad.

No predicts from me, its just  pointless...i just hope City  dont stay pointless for to long, for now i will take that.

[GenerationA47 751]

I’m hoping the new faces will be integrated gradually over the first term, one or maximum two at a time.

Starting obviously with the forced replacements i.e. left back (& whichever starters may leave between now and October).

 

 

Clearly Farke will be forming his plan for this, informed by the training they’re doing.

Just think it should be a controlled (r)evolution to enable the oldies a chance to recap that old winning feeling under the original system, while subtly improving the quality and bring in new dimensions.

 

 

 The most exciting thing about the vast number of newbies is the potential for a tactical plan B, which I always thought we lacked. From match to match and within a game (early subs).

 I hope that’s how they’ll be exploited rather than the usual way coaches stuff the 11 with their new toys and can lose the good bits about what they had before.

Edited September 11, 2020 by GenerationA47
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[Making Plans 936]

With 3 weeks left of the transfer window it's difficult to be confident about anything until we know what we're left with.

So I'll keep my predictions low key for the time being although I do expect us to break our losing run eventually

 

[GenerationA47 751]

12 minutes ago, Making Plans said:

 

So I'll keep my predictions low key for the time being although I do expect us to break our losing run eventually

 

Blimey- you feeling all right, Nigel?

😋

[sonyc 5,514]

13 hours ago, norfolkngood said:

Very true he has Class just got to get his form 

i know it is only clips i have seen But i would love to see Placheta upfront in a Two or at a number 10 his pace to get past last man is unbelievable 

I think this should give us cause for optimism yes. Got to keep people fit for this campaign. I can see why with our squad we 'ought' to be up there.

[sonyc 5,514]

12 hours ago, Fr. Chewy Louie said:

Everything looks in place for a charge at the top spot, but there are a fair few new signings to settle in, and I'm sure at least one or two won't live up to expectations.

With the congested timetable and no glaring weaknesses in our (big) squad though, there should be no excuses for being outside the top 6 at the very least.

Love Farke, but off the back of 12 defeats and a pretty miserable Prem campaign, he needs to deliver.

 

It's a worry for me that if we don't start the campaign this place will be full of misery and complaint. Folk will not be as patient as last time will they? You're right 100% about Farke having to deliver though. If he doesn't I'm sure he'll either resign or be dismissed. Like you I like DF very much but he is under more pressure than ever. And, it appears for his first time ever in his tenure, he has more tools in his box than he has been used to. It's going to be very interesting.

[Fr. Chewy Louie 137]

4 minutes ago, sonyc said:

It's a worry for me that if we don't start the campaign this place will be full of misery and complaint. Folk will not be as patient as last time will they? You're right 100% about Farke having to deliver though. If he doesn't I'm sure he'll either resign or be dismissed. Like you I like DF very much but he is under more pressure than ever. And, it appears for his first time ever in his tenure, he has more tools in his box than he has been used to. It's going to be very interesting.

Not sure I remember that much patience in the poor run at the beginning of the Champions season! Fair to say that not many others would still be in a job after the post-lockdown run, but I'm glad he is.

For this season, I'm sure some patience and a steady nerve will be required, changing manager after all these changes would be pretty counter-productive. Not to say he shouldn't be criticised though.

[king canary 7,605]

9 minutes ago, sonyc said:

It's a worry for me that if we don't start the campaign this place will be full of misery and complaint. Folk will not be as patient as last time will they? You're right 100% about Farke having to deliver though. If he doesn't I'm sure he'll either resign or be dismissed. Like you I like DF very much but he is under more pressure than ever. And, it appears for his first time ever in his tenure, he has more tools in his box than he has been used to. It's going to be very interesting.

He'll likely be helped by a mostly empty stadium if we start slowly. I understand a need for patience but at the same time I don't think anyone could blame fans for questioning Farke if we're 7/8 games in and struggling.

[Tumbleweed 106]

It really is all down to Farke now. Look at the squad list as it is (and even with one or two more departures in line with what most seem to expect) and it looks very strong, certainly should be enough to mount a very good challenge at the top. There can be no excuses that we have not invested for success in a sensible way with some ostensibly good additions. Get the tactics right, have that Plan B and make sure we start games strongly (rather than seemingly having to play our way in) and there is no reason not to be quietly confident. I would happily take a draw to start with just to break the sequence and get us into first gear.

[CANARYKING 637]

Just waiting for the latest injury list, one day we’ll have a clean bill of health 

[Mr Angry 1,555]

I've been waiting to see the first team sheet just in case any of our players were doing a Watford and "not fit to train with the squad".

As we have managed to retain all but 1 of the players who might have been expected to secure a move, I would say our squad is the best in the Championship.

My expectations are that we should win this league.

I also expect us to shake off the appalling run at the end of last season-in fact I think it's vital that we do so. I know there are 46 matches in the season but I think this needs to be laid to rest from the outset.

[TheGunnShow 5,940]

Bumping this thread up so we can all take a look at how our predos are going so far.

[hogesar 9,658]

From a personal point of view, we've started better than I expected. I thought the points tally would be a bit lower as we dealt with the turnover in players and the losing-streak we'd got ourselves into in the prem.

[sgncfc 1,227]

We're a point off where I predicted we would be before the start of the season - but I do have us losing the next two games so we have a chance to catch that up.

[sonyc 5,514]

7 hours ago, TheGunnShow said:

Bumping this thread up so we can all take a look at how our predos are going so far.

4th to 8th was mine. So it's a tad better. Pukki seems to have got a little more of his form back. Not sure about others but we somehow rarely seem to get into top gear for long. Some glimpses...the first 20 of Brentford, first 15 of Wycombe and in parts of the Derby match. 

Looking at the Bein Sports stats I see we have had more shots than any other team, by a good number. That dynamic will continue I believe. Yet our conversion rate is 10% and in the bottom third of the division. This shows some of the problem. So our chances are either less clear-cut, opponents are very organised or we are wasteful. I think it's a combination of all of those.

Lastly, our defence sometimes gives me kittens at set pieces yet we have done very well recently I believe. Maybe it's our attack that needs attention this time round!

Anyway, we are one point off the top. No team has outplayed us. We need Adam back. Still think he will go on a scoring streak. Dowell to return too. I'm as happy as I could have forecast. Farke is being really proactive in his subs! What's gone on there? Overall, not much not to dislike. We are getting there.

Edited November 10, 2020 by sonyc

[BroadstairsR 2,163]

We're either a juggernaut that will sweep all before it, or damn lucky to have accumulated the success we have so far.

 

I always feel the former between fixtures, and build up our talent in my mind, only to be brought down to earth when the game starts.

Very few games are easy in this division. No team will lie down and surrender to the force that is NCFC. 

We should achieve top six at least, but our biggest problem remains breaking down teams who come to Carrow Road and park the bus.

For all our class we do currently fail to be fluent goalscorers when faced with this problem. It's a tough nut to crack and that's exactly why we will occasionally have to rely on  flashes of brilliance from the likes of Vrancic or Stiepermann to get on the score sheet, rather than our more orthodox through balls to Pukki.

We never seem as successful at creating problems from crosses (esp. corners) as our opponents.

Edited November 11, 2020 by BroadstairsR

[Midlands Yellow 3,980]

There you go Hoggy. 

[GenerationA47 751]

On 21/08/2020 at 15:03, Uncle Fred said:

Mid table at best and me moaning Like a be atch through out the season 

One of those predictions has been slightly less untrue than the other.

[Midlands Yellow 3,980]

On 10/11/2020 at 13:25, hogesar said:

From a personal point of view, we've started better than I expected. I thought the points tally would be a bit lower as we dealt with the turnover in players and the losing-streak we'd got ourselves into in the prem.

Mr sit on the fence as always.