Mason 47 1,373 Posted July 27, 2020 I think it's a classic case of transfer dominoes. I saw a rumour linking Emi with Valencia as a replacement for Ferran Torres who is now confirmed Manchester-bound, for example. Our major moves probably won't happen until wheels start turning elsewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,634 Posted July 27, 2020 The pinkun guys are suggesting Mumba is one for the first team picture - it’s bit of a jump from a handful of on-loan games for South Shields to the Champs, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted July 27, 2020 Piece here from the North East on Mumba give some insight to the player, but also the car crash that is Sunderland. https://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/sunderland-afc/sunderlands-academy-focus-inside-controversial-sale-bali-mumba-and-questions-raised-ahead-norwich-city-move-2925263 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted July 27, 2020 Agree with the above. but Zimm looks limited in the PL may not be 1st choice later in the season - as with Tettey Watching yesterday and Pukki certainly did not look fully fit, so it might be some of these who are moved on (Trybull) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor Hockey's Beard 526 Posted July 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, Bill said: Charlton's Bonne certainly looks what we need - though that is only on the basis of a few minutes clips However whether a 'take it by the scruff of the neck' and score player would fit into our 20 passes and walk it into the net policy is another matter The clips show Bonne winning headers against defenders - not our sort of player at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,675 Posted July 27, 2020 Annnnd it's offical 8J8IruirvyyI46oZ.mp4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mason 47 1,373 Posted July 27, 2020 Mumba officially confirmed. Bailey on Twitter also confirms he's one for the first team, as 'right back cover' which would make the sudden Max-to-Bayern links seem ominous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted July 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said: Piece here from the North East on Mumba give some insight to the player, but also the car crash that is Sunderland. https://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/sunderland-afc/sunderlands-academy-focus-inside-controversial-sale-bali-mumba-and-questions-raised-ahead-norwich-city-move-2925263 What the above highlights is the foolishness of the 'get the club into debt' numpties It looks like Sunderland in desperate need to meet previous commitments have shed the type of employee such as Webber, and are having to shed players like Mumba to stay afloat But hey, they showed 'hambition' so they must be right .... struggling in the 3rd tier 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,634 Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) Good luck to the lad, clearly well thought of.  Still think it’s a big jump, if Aarons does leave as anticipated and we are relying on Byram as first choice, you kind-of think Mumba will be needed quite a bit to cover inevitable injuries. Edited July 27, 2020 by Branston Pickle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Branston Pickle said: Good luck to the lad, clearly well thought of.  Still think it’s a big jump, if Aarons does leave as anticipated and we are relying on Byram as first choice, you kind-of think Mumba will be needed quite a bit to cover inevitable injuries. There is also Jordan Thomas who came off the bench yesterday. Edited July 27, 2020 by Bethnal Yellow and Green Got the guys name wrong! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted July 27, 2020 It is the same 'big jump' that Aarons, lewis and Godfrey made - and it could be that Mumba will go out on loan for a few months to sharpen him up as I expect other ;newbies will 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,128 Posted July 27, 2020 If we're going to play with two wingers they'll be less pressure on the full backs to get as high up the pitch as Max & Lewis do currently, hopefully they'll be able to concentrate on defending, especially stopping crosses. Â 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALBOWLLY 15 Posted July 27, 2020 27 minutes ago, Bill said: What the above highlights is the foolishness of the 'get the club into debt' numpties It looks like Sunderland in desperate need to meet previous commitments have shed the type of employee such as Webber, and are having to shed players like Mumba to stay afloat But hey, they showed 'hambition' so they must be right .... struggling in the 3rd tier Sunderland haven't had an employee like Webber. Nor have they shown ambition. Ellis Short spent a lot of money, eventually writing off £200,000,000, but then allowed a couple of chancers, who make Delia Smith look a wealthy owner by comparison, to get their hands on the club. Any commitments Donald and Methven have made have been peanuts because that's all they have; and they haven't invested many of their peanuts because, unlike Norwich's owners, they're not supporters of the club they own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Number9 272 Posted July 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said: If we're going to play with two wingers they'll be less pressure on the full backs to get as high up the pitch as Max & Lewis do currently, hopefully they'll be able to concentrate on defending, especially stopping crosses.  Nice thinking but Farkes comments about Bali say otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted July 27, 2020 If we're going to play with two wingers they'll be less pressure on the full backs to get as high up the pitch as Max & Lewis do currently, hopefully they'll be able to concentrate on defending, especially stopping crosses. I think you are barking up the wrong tree. I don't see two wingers in DF's tactics. Two defensive midfield players yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,089 Posted July 27, 2020 Just now, keelansgrandad said: If we're going to play with two wingers they'll be less pressure on the full backs to get as high up the pitch as Max & Lewis do currently, hopefully they'll be able to concentrate on defending, especially stopping crosses. I think you are barking up the wrong tree. I don't see two wingers in DF's tactics. Two defensive midfield players yes. I wouldn’t be surprised to see 3 CBs next season, giving Lewis and Aarons, or whoever takes their place, a bit more freedom to get forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,932 Posted July 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said: If we're going to play with two wingers they'll be less pressure on the full backs to get as high up the pitch as Max & Lewis do currently, hopefully they'll be able to concentrate on defending, especially stopping crosses. Â Exactly. I said that in a previous discussion. If we've got at least one pace merchant on a wing, we'll pin their full-back and with a bit of luck, might even take their wide midfielder as well. A lot of people seem to think the ability of a team is a total sum game - it really is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,932 Posted July 27, 2020 Just now, Nuff Said said: I wouldn’t be surprised to see 3 CBs next season, giving Lewis and Aarons, or whoever takes their place, a bit more freedom to get forward. If we're not playing two wingers, that's precisely what I'd like to see. We're a couple of centre-halves light for that though, although I would maintain playing wingbacks should make us more solid down the middle of the park. We've looked pretty vulnerable down the middle so anything that gums up the works better when out of possession is fine by me. Something like a 3-5-1-1 as plan A, going to a 4-5-1 or 4-4-1-1 as a plan B would be the preference at my end, but we'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,283 Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) It’s good signing, as for expecting to play wingers, I think we will see a front three, the two wingers whoever they may be will push up and our wing backs again whoever will be pushed to deliver the ball into the box quicker. Can’t see us using three CB not in the championship.... I can see us using three CM and not having an out and out number 10, but one which drops in and out. 4-3-3. This young squad appears to be built round speed and flexibility, could be an exciting team to watch if all cogs turn together! Edited July 27, 2020 by Indy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 746 Posted July 27, 2020 25 minutes ago, Indy said: It’s good signing, as for expecting to play wingers, I think we will see a front three, the two wingers whoever they may be will push up and our wing backs again whoever will be pushed to deliver the ball into the box quicker. Can’t see us using three CB not in the championship.... I can see us using three CM and not having an out and out number 10, but one which drops in and out. 4-3-3. This young squad appears to be built round speed and flexibility, could be an exciting team to watch if all cogs turn together! Is it wrong I am praying emi is still here to be deployed further up the pitch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,283 Posted July 27, 2020 Just now, Dr Greenthumb said: Is it wrong I am praying emi is still here to be deployed further up the pitch? Not at all, in fact I believe he’s the ideal attacking CM as he busts a gut to get back to defend, his all round game is suited to that. Just imagine his through balls to Hernandez and Placheta with their speed! We now have a choice including two new big young holding CM to add to the mix. I really see big turnaround with fringe players and three first team youngsters going, we have McCullum left back, Mumba right back and Byram, so can see Lewis, Aaron’s, Cantwell, Steipermann, Trybull, Klose, being out the door very soon, coffers in the bank and wages down a fair bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alfie54 76 Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Nuff Said said: I wouldn’t be surprised to see 3 CBs next season, giving Lewis and Aarons, or whoever takes their place, a bit more freedom to get forward. They had no problem going forward, getting back seemed to be the issue! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 746 Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Indy said: Not at all, in fact I believe he’s the ideal attacking CM as he busts a gut to get back to defend, his all round game is suited to that. Just imagine his through balls to Hernandez and Placheta with their speed! We now have a choice including two new big young holding CM to add to the mix. I really see big turnaround with fringe players and three first team youngsters going, we have McCullum left back, Mumba right back and Byram, so can see Lewis, Aaron’s, Cantwell, Steipermann, Trybull, Klose, being out the door very soon, coffers in the bank and wages down a fair bit. I’m all for that too mate, I’d like to keep Stiepermann. I just feel a player as talented as EMI shouldn’t spend as much of the game on the edge of our box as he was! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
curious yellow 184 Posted July 27, 2020 Soto is training with SC Telstar, possibly a loan there while we wait for a work permit. Jaiyesimi has signed for Swindon, good luck to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted July 27, 2020 2 hours ago, TheGunnShow said: Something like a 3-5-1-1 as plan A, going to a 4-5-1 or 4-4-1-1 as a plan B would be the preference at my end, but we'll see. or maybe the outfield players position on the pitch at any given moment is determined by where the ball and/or the opposition players are Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeymarSmith 130 Posted July 27, 2020 Now that Bali has signed, does anyone know if Matthew Dennis (the kid from arsenal academy) has signed as well? I think they were both seen in Norwich together (on gentlemen's walk as per bali's insta) I'd assume him to be in u23s anyway... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted July 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, NeymarSmith said: Now that Bali has signed, does anyone know if Matthew Dennis (the kid from arsenal academy) has signed as well? I think they were both seen in Norwich together (on gentlemen's walk as per bali's insta) I'd assume him to be in u23s anyway... He has signed. Just not announced - I guess he'll be going into the U23s so the club might not make a fancy announcement about it. I expect once Soto's loan is sorted the club will do a low key double announcement, wouldn't surprised if Dennis is sent on loan straight away, like Gilmour was. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legend Iwan 30 Posted July 27, 2020 Imagine Soto will be announced tomorrow, Telstar have already stated he's ours  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,932 Posted July 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Dr Greenthumb said: I’m all for that too mate, I’d like to keep Stiepermann. I just feel a player as talented as EMI shouldn’t spend as much of the game on the edge of our box as he was! Agree re. Stiepermann. Suspect he wouldn't mind having a speedy winger or two around him as it gives him more space down the middle. He's just one of those who clearly couldn't make the leap, but would be excellent in a central spine for the Championship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,934 Posted July 27, 2020 Maddison signs new contract at Leicester, £110,000 a week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites