Indy 3,283 Posted July 16, 2020 37 minutes ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said: Mumba is 18 and been on loan at South Shields this season playing as a midfielder. I highly doubt he’ll be seen as a first team option next season. If Aarons is sold, Bryam is the only specialist right back who has player senior football at the club. If the young players got upset by Webber’s fairly innocuous comment they probably don’t have the character to survive in football. Obviously as they have all made it as far as they have they will know how to listen to their coaches/bosses. No Beth, I was making the point that Webber appears to be narked with some of our younger players, I’m not sure if everything was rosy he’d be so vocal in the media? But I agree that’s why I said we need more cover if Aarons and Lewis to! But just to say Aarons broke through from nowhere to gain his place at 18, so we’ll see who will make a big impression on the Championship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted July 16, 2020 a thick scouser writes Liverpool hold all the cards Both home-grown players are 22 and have bright futures ahead of them. Before the global pandemic and Norwich’s Premier League status, there was no reason that the club couldn’t command ambitious price tags for two of the countries upcoming talents. With that said, following Norwich’s confirmed relegation from the Premier League prior to their 4-0 defeat to West Ham on Saturday, this means if Liverpool were to accelerate their interest in the two mentioned players, they would hold all the cards. In the full-back department, Lewis is at an age that means if he develops further, Liverpool could make a return on their investment further down the line and he would certainly serve as adequate cover at left-back for Andy Robertson. Liverpool still do not have sufficient cover for the Scotsman and players who are not accustomed to that position such as James Milner and Neco Williams have had to cover if ever Robertson was unavailable. Profile-wise, Lewis has been far less attacking than Robertson this season under Daniel Farke, who employs his full-backs in a more defensive manner compared with Liverpool He is comfortable carrying and dribbling the ball at a high volume but would seemingly need to adapt his game quite a lot to slot into how Klopp likes his team to play. Cantwell meanwhile, could represent a like-for-like replacement for Adam Lallana who will depart the club at the end of the season. It could also help ease the pressure on Curtis Jones who has been deemed as the Lallana’s natural replacement. While there is no concrete evidence of Liverpool showcasing an interest in the two players, history has shown that the club are accustomed to keeping an eye on the players of relegated clubs. If a deal were to be done Norwich will not be able to command the price tag as effectively as they could if they were still a Premier League team. Also considering both players have proven they are far too talented to make the drop back to the Championship, it is likely that Norwich will take what they are offered and will not stand in the way of their player’s ambitions. Also considering both players have proven they are far too talented to make the drop back to the Championship, it is likely that Norwich will take what they are offered and will not stand in the way of their player’s ambitions. Instead, Liverpool could set a reasonable evaluation rather than go above it, and if this does not suit Klopp and the transfer committee then the club will simply look elsewhere. Instead, Liverpool could set a reasonable evaluation rather than go above it, and if this does not suit Klopp and the transfer committee then the club will simply look elsewhere." So they hold all the cards, but not the one where Norwich can ask the price that suits them - which would mean the scousers " will simply look elsewhere." " Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 4,844 Posted July 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Rich T The Biscuit said: Yep, think this one is a non-starter. Plus if we are in for another left back I think Jacobsen at Wycombe would be a better option. He has a wand for a left foot and delivers from dead ball situations. Joe Jacobson is 33 years old and has never played in the Championship. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,283 Posted July 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Feedthewolf said: Joe Jacobson is 33 years old and has never played in the Championship. That would be an odd signing for us... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rich T The Biscuit 562 Posted July 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Feedthewolf said: Joe Jacobson is 33 years old and has never played in the Championship. Didn't know that, shame he's not 23 then 😁 The fact he's not played in the Championship isn't a problem for me as neither has McCallum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted July 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Indy said: That would be an odd signing for us... It certainly would, complete backward step and not a chance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 4,844 Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Rich T The Biscuit said: Didn't know that, shame he's not 23 then 😁 The fact he's not played in the Championship isn't a problem for me as neither has McCallum. Not having played in the Championship isn't a problem in and of itself, but if you're 33 the chances are you're probably not good enough 🙂 Edited July 16, 2020 by Feedthewolf 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rich T The Biscuit 562 Posted July 16, 2020 22 minutes ago, Feedthewolf said: Not having played in the Championship isn't a problem in and of itself, but if you're 33 the chances are you're probably not good enough 🙂 Yeah I should have probably done some checks first......still think he's got a wand of a left foot though 😆 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Vadis 150 Posted July 16, 2020 Not our Man, apparently... Shame as he looks like he'll be a very decent player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rich T The Biscuit 562 Posted July 16, 2020 Was always going to happen, Webber seems to hate deals that get discussed in the public domain as over the years we've only really found out when it's all but done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,929 Posted July 16, 2020 Hope it’s not us refusing to pay that extra million or two to get it over the line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,634 Posted July 16, 2020 I think this seemed pretty likely when we were so strongly linked to the Polish guy, it’s not the most astounding news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terminally Yellow 2,448 Posted July 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: Hope it’s not us refusing to pay that extra million or two to get it over the line. Given "an extra million or two" represents a fair portion of our entire transfer budget this season, it would hardly be a surprise, would it? Being honest, I like the sound of Dennis Man but what they're asking for is a lot for a player who is untried and untested outside of the Romanian league. The Polish lad comes at a fraction of the price with similar qualities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,195 Posted July 16, 2020 FCSB owner playing hardball. We need to do the same when others come sniffing round our lads. That's the difficulty we will have when trying to buy though as other clubs know we have assets that should make quite a bit of money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted July 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said: FCSB owner playing hardball. We need to do the same when others come sniffing round our lads. That's the difficulty we will have when trying to buy though as other clubs know we have assets that should make quite a bit of money. Maybe that's why we are buying know - and even with that we could have billions, it doesn't mean we will pay o over the top' because of that As to our negotiating I think £10m plus for each Murphy wasn't bad business, and RVW should make us wary of buying supposedly instant success Players who join us will undoubtedly need a good bit of 'bedding in' to get used to the 'English game', and it will probably be much further down the line that we see their real ability We are in this for the long term. remember Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,929 Posted July 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, Terminally Yellow said: Given "an extra million or two" represents a fair portion of our entire transfer budget this season, it would hardly be a surprise, would it? Being honest, I like the sound of Dennis Man but what they're asking for is a lot for a player who is untried and untested outside of the Romanian league. The Polish lad comes at a fraction of the price with similar qualities. Your quite right but my thinking was the club may be already aware of players leaving knowing the funds are there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,086 Posted July 16, 2020 Next Season will be Very interesting Replacing the youngsters will be hard i feel the club will never have a better chance to build a team that could stay up if we go up the Money that Godfrey , Cantwell , Lewis , Arrons , Buendia could raise ( if sold ) would be a massive amount to the club It is so important it is invested wisely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terminally Yellow 2,448 Posted July 16, 2020 40 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: Your quite right but my thinking was the club may be already aware of players leaving knowing the funds are there. Webber suggested no offers so far. I know that might be a lie, but given the coronavirus I wouldn't be surprised if not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,929 Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Terminally Yellow said: Webber suggested no offers so far. I know that might be a lie, but given the coronavirus I wouldn't be surprised if not. Don’t think the most positive supporter in the world of Norwich believes no players worth money are not leaving soon. It’s going to be a strange scenario once the new season begins but one we should be prepared for. Edited July 17, 2020 by Midlands Yellow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,929 Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, norfolkngood said: Next Season will be Very interesting Replacing the youngsters will be hard i feel the club will never have a better chance to build a team that could stay up if we go up the Money that Godfrey , Cantwell , Lewis , Arrons , Buendia could raise ( if sold ) would be a massive amount to the club It is so important it is invested wisely Exactly, and some real quality added to replace them. Edited July 16, 2020 by Midlands Yellow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted July 17, 2020 9 hours ago, Midlands Yellow said: Your quite right but my thinking was the club may be already aware of players leaving knowing the funds are there. If deals had been arranged the buying clubs would insist the players are left out to avoid injury. That doesn’t mean conversations haven’t happened, but I’m certain no deal is in place for anyone yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,578 Posted July 17, 2020 14 hours ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said: Mumba is 18 and been on loan at South Shields this season playing as a midfielder. I highly doubt he’ll be seen as a first team option next season. If Aarons is sold, Bryam is the only specialist right back who has player senior football at the club. If the young players got upset by Webber’s fairly innocuous comment they probably don’t have the character to survive in football. Obviously as they have all made it as far as they have they will know how to listen to their coaches/bosses. Michael Bailey specifically mentioned Muamba was viewed as potential right back cover by the club which maybe suggests he'll be in or around the first team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,616 Posted July 17, 2020 10 hours ago, Midlands Yellow said: Hope it’s not us refusing to pay that extra million or two to get it over the line. I'd rather us not spend 2 million pounds more than we feel a player is worth to us. That's the starting point for an awful transfer window. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted July 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, king canary said: Michael Bailey specifically mentioned Muamba was viewed as potential right back cover by the club which maybe suggests he'll be in or around the first team. But he didn’t say for which season 😜 He might be around as third choice and mainly play in the U23s I guess. With Bryam in the mix you’d the club might want one extra body in. I’d imagine the club will look at him in preseason and see what he can offer. Right back would seem to be a slightly new position for him as well. He’s played as a defensive midfielder for the England youth teams - but admit I don’t know that much about him as a player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,634 Posted July 17, 2020 I doubt Mumba would be too close to the first team for a while, having only been on loan to non league rather than playing for Sunderland this season. Seems more likely to be playing u23 football at least to see how he goes; we are falling into the ‘trap’ of lumping our signings together when, as with last year (Adshead et al), some are not bought as being first team ‘ready’. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alfie54 76 Posted July 17, 2020 11 hours ago, norfolkngood said: Next Season will be Very interesting Replacing the youngsters will be hard i feel the club will never have a better chance to build a team that could stay up if we go up the Money that Godfrey , Cantwell , Lewis , Arrons , Buendia could raise ( if sold ) would be a massive amount to the club It is so important it is invested wisely I think you could add Pukki to that list. How achievable is is to replace those six with better players? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ec-p 90 Posted July 17, 2020 I think Pukki will be off too. All does not seem well with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted July 17, 2020 Can only see Pukki leaving if the club decide that now is the time to cash in on him. Don’t think he showed enough in the last 6 months to give any club a reason to try and sign him. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,578 Posted July 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said: Can only see Pukki leaving if the club decide that now is the time to cash in on him. Don’t think he showed enough in the last 6 months to give any club a reason to try and sign him. Yeah I think clubs will be wondering if those first 6 months were a bit of a fluke at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,634 Posted July 17, 2020 I’m happy with that if it means keeping Pukki. There’s something not quite ‘clicking’ at the moment but when he finds it again we want to be the beneficiaries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites