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46 minutes ago, Canary Wundaboy said:

I'm somewhat confused by British entertainers/bands etc complaining about a lack of visa-free access to the EU. It hasn't stopped American bands, Broadway productions etc touring the Eu and UK up until now so what exactly is the problem?

This explains it perfectly.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/feb/12/brexit-is-destroying-music-why-has-the-government-let-this-happen

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I think brexiters need to accept the fact that they have made the lives harder for millions of people for no net benefit. The creative industries are a perfect example. 

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11 minutes ago, Herman said:

I think brexiters need to accept the fact that they have made the lives harder for millions of people for no net benefit. The creative industries are a perfect example. 

Exactly! but you won't find one of them on here owning up to that. They're all too cowardly to admit that they were fooled by the brexit bollox brigade lead by bumbling-bollox-in-chief Boris. Expect Swindon to remind us shortly that Nissan didn't leave (hurrah! it only took a bribe of multi-millions of tax-payers money to get them not to do something they wouldn't have even contemplated doing had brexit not happened).

I'm still not sure whether I am living in some Armando Iannucci rewrite of the Truman Show.

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I expect "The Norwich Puppet Man" will have to cancel his tour of the States

Heartsease, Tuckswood and West Earlham.

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"A Sussex pharmaceutical company has told how it had to bundle a production line into a white van and take it to Amsterdam to beat a Brexit medicines ban."

"Cooke said Mediwin was being forced to lay off 45 people in the UK. “We were going to invest in a site in the UK a couple of years ago we we needed to expand. That £2m investment has gone to Spain. We’ve got a fabulous new production facility which will come online in Barcelona, in two or three months time,” she said."

The continuing loss of jobs, tax revenue and investment should demonstrate that this is merely the beginning, as UK businesses are forced abroad so as to survive.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/21/sussex-medicines-firm-takes-production-line-abroad-white-van-beat-brexit-ban

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Now it is the turn of Cornish 'farmers'

'The world’s largest daffodil grower, which is based in Cornwall, is having to let hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of flowers rot following Brexit.'

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/brexit-forces-worlds-largest-daffodil-5029137nd as the growing season

And, as the growing season progresses this will be the cry heard up and down the country - along with (currently)100, 000 pigs unable to be sold to the EU..... as with shellfish

"Blame the EU, they forced us out, they are sticking to the deal.... baa baa"

 

Jim Pickard on Twitter: "how Vote Leave misled Britain's farmers over  Brexit, a triptych… "

That's George Eustice MP for the next door constituency

And these are the lies that Brexit MPS told their Cornish constituents

"The MPs are also positive that two of our main industries – farming and fishing – can benefit too."

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/cornwalls-mps-tell-how-county-3393446

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"The UK has announced further delays to post-Brexit import controls, despite warnings the move will be a boon for tax cheats and smugglers. Full controls on animal products were due to be enforced next month and other customs declarations introduced in July, having been shelved from January to ease pressures at the border.

But Michael Gove has now delayed them until October and next January respectively – blaming Covid-19, which has led to “greater” disruption than expected.

Businesses had warned of disaster if the imposition of yet more red tape went ahead – some saying Britain would experience the huge trade turbulence destabilising Northern Ireland."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-import-control-delay-eu-latest-b1815815.html

This failing shtfest just continues to fail, day after day

More revenue lost, more delay and more cost. Any wonder.....

"Three-quarters of British manufacturers are struggling to cope with delays in moving goods in and out of the EU amid continuing disruption caused by Brexit and the Covid pandemic, industry figures said.

Two months after the UK left the EU on trade terms agreed by Boris Johnson’s government, research from the manufacturing trade group Make UK has shown that 74% of firms in a survey of more than 200 leading industrial companies are facing delays with EU imports and exports.

Faced with mounting Brexit red tape, customs checks and disruption to global trade caused by the pandemic, more than half of companies said they were suffering from increased costs. More than a third had lost out on sales, while fears over continued disruption was losing firms future business."

These constant moving of deadlines are a clear indication that the problems caused are not being resolved in fact they are growing steadily.  Though I suspect it will only when folk are allowed to go back to work that they will find the jobs no longer exist... and won't be coming back either.

Bob Geldof abuses hard working fisherman as his flotilla attracts fury from  even his own side

police want to question a couple involved in a fraud perpetrated on UK voters

 

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I'm reposting this vid here because it truly is an excellent account of the disastrous brexit issues facing a small business like his own. Also his claims about why the government signed off on such a disastrous deal are the most plausible I have yet to hear (apart from simple incompetence of the most extraordinary magnitude). He points out that all the problems he faces with increased costs and paperwork relate solely to the issue of meeting EU food quality standards. If the government had simply included in the deal an agreement to at least match EU standards then none of these costs or red-tape would have been necessary. So given that the government had claimed it intended to surpass EU food quality standards why did they not do this and instead sign a deal that has imperilled  so many UK companies? Simply put, they lied. Spurrell argues that the real reason they refused an agreement to match EU quality standards is because Johnson had made and arrangement with Trump to actually lower UK standards in order to do a trade deal with the US. Worth watching:

 

 

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The Mash Report has been cancelled. I expect Fen and Rocky to be penning letters of disgust to the telegraph. 

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Saw this comment elsewhere on the trade figures.

"Gove will just claim we've had enough of exports."

Made me laugh. It is indicative as to how we expect the Brexiteers to spin it.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/12/exports-to-eu-plunge-in-first-month-since-brexit-uk-economy

 

“Brexit made a bad situation worse in January,” said Samuel Tombs, the chief UK economist at the consultancy Pantheon Macroeconomics. “Our view remains that Brexit is best seen as a slow puncture, rather than a sudden blowout, with the costs gradually accumulating in the form of lower investment and immigration than otherwise would have been the case.”

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11 hours ago, Herman said:

The import and export stats are rather eye watering.

Certainly are - rather pleased now that I bought a bundle of euros before those figures were announced 😀

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On 12/03/2021 at 22:17, Creative Midfielder said:

Certainly are - rather pleased now that I bought a bundle of euros before those figures were announced 😀

i think you may have lost money, the pound is now stronger against the Euro than it was before it dropped on the 12th

This from the FT today, some crumbs of comfort.


UK economic data confound forecasters and beat expectations

Policymakers and analysts are revising up their Q1 GDP forecasts Over the past two weeks, there has been no let-up in the positive surprises, with better-than-expected purchasing managers’ indices, business surveys and official data pointing to a strong uptick in activity in March 

The latest UK economic data has been significantly better than economists expected, suggesting households and companies have been more resilient to the latest lockdown and Britain will climb international economic performance league tables in the months ahead. Most of the important economic data for the period of the lockdown that began on January 4, including output, employment, business sentiment and public finances, have been better than forecast and much stronger than in the first lockdown, showing the ability of businesses and consumers to adapt. With the UK economy poised to reopen gradually in the weeks ahead amid a successful coronavirus vaccination rollout, unlike much of the EU, the prospects for the immediate economic recovery are strong. The positive surprises also lower the immediate pressure on policymakers to provide further monetary or fiscal boosts.

 

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On 19/02/2021 at 07:29, Herman said:

I think brexiters need to accept the fact that they have made the lives harder for millions of people for no net benefit. The creative industries are a perfect example. 

Oh the irony.  Thanks to Brexit and the UK's autonomous vaccine strategy we have ensured that more people will at least be alive 'to suffer', while the EU have ensured many needless deaths for months to come due to their overarching sclerotic state control strategy.

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2 hours ago, paul moy said:

Oh the irony.  Thanks to Brexit and the UK's autonomous vaccine strategy we have ensured that more people will at least be alive 'to suffer', while the EU have ensured many needless deaths for months to come due to their overarching sclerotic state control strategy.

Aboslute tripe - as has been stated many times the UK autonomous vacination strategy had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit, it was a strategy that any member of the EU could have chosen to follow but none apart form the UK chose to follow that  route, and just to get vaguely in contact with reality, something I know you find difficult - the fact that the UK is vaccinating a bit faster than most other European countries hasn't made the slightest dint the fact that the UK has one of the worst pandemic outcomes  in the world and even more so amongst the western developed countries - it has the worst outcome last year, it has the worst outcome now and it will still have the worst outcome at the end of this year when hopefully people all round the world have been vaccinated and we might start to get on top of the virus.

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On 28/03/2021 at 22:02, Creative Midfielder said:

Aboslute tripe - as has been stated many times the UK autonomous vacination strategy had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit, it was a strategy that any member of the EU could have chosen to follow but none apart form the UK chose to follow that  route, and just to get vaguely in contact with reality, something I know you find difficult - the fact that the UK is vaccinating a bit faster than most other European countries hasn't made the slightest dint the fact that the UK has one of the worst pandemic outcomes  in the world and even more so amongst the western developed countries - it has the worst outcome last year, it has the worst outcome now and it will still have the worst outcome at the end of this year when hopefully people all round the world have been vaccinated and we might start to get on top of the virus.

Exactly CM! But he has never let the truth interfere with his desperation to promote xenophobia and hatred. You only have to remind yourself of his countless posts, desperately hopeful that at least one EU country surpasses the calamitous death toll of the UK, to know what sort of degenerate morality motivates his lies. Time and again it has been pointed out that Dr June Raine and Kate Bingham have both said very clearly that Brexit had nothing to do with the approval and roll-out of vaccines in the UK.  

Given his immunity to the truth, I'm beginning to wonder whether he is merely posting in order to use his favourite word "sclerotic" as much as possible. Oh the irony! If only he possessed the slightest level self-awareness then he wouldn't keep using the word "sclerotic" in a way that demonstrates the "sclerotic" ingorance of a bigot for whom evidence and honesty is an irrelevance.

 

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3 hours ago, horsefly said:

Given his immunity to the truth, I'm beginning to wonder whether he is merely posting in order to use his favourite word "sclerotic" as much as possible.

perhaps you might care to check who frequently used that word prior to moy

why if it was not Jools, yes the poster Bill states is moy

probably best to put the word in the search facility ASAP before this chap edits those posts

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how strange (or not) the Jools/Moy troll has gone awol after my pointing out both names using that same 'obscure; word

 

meanwhile more brexit trouble

''''Thousands of British citizens in France have been left without a valid driving licence, or face losing theirs within months, because of bureaucratic overload and the failure of the two countries’ governments to sign a post-Brexit reciprocal agreement.''

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/30/britons-in-france-could-lose-driving-licences-due-to-post-brexit-impasse

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34 minutes ago, Creative Midfielder said:

Think they've probably been doing that for a while - trouble is those 'worst' case scenarios seem to be getting worse all the time! 🙄

"He's not the only one looking at establishing a base in the EU. The BBC has spoken to a number of investment agencies around Europe - including in Germany, Belgium, Austria and France. All of them say they've seen a big increase in the number of UK businesses expressing an interest in moving some of their operations across the channel. The Netherlands is emerging as a favourite destination.

Michiel Bakhuizen is from the Netherlands Foreign investment Agency. They have been in talks with over 600 UK businesses since the Brexit referendum, and the monthly numbers have increased since the start of this year."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56592411

'Staying over there and taking all our jobs' 🤨

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More bad news for Brexiteers

"Thousands of angry British Gas customers have written to the company, many vowing to switch to another energy supplier, unless it scraps plans to force its engineers to accept longer working hours or lose their jobs within weeks."

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/apr/01/thousands-british-gas-customers-switch-fire-rehire-plan

this follows -

"Thousands of Asda supermarket workers have won a major victory at the Supreme Court in their battle for equal pay.

The court upheld an earlier court ruling that lower-paid shop staff, who are mostly women, can compare themselves with higher paid warehouse workers, who are mostly men."

And yesterday's huge flop of Deliveroos IPO, where a major cause was the likelihood of the company having to up the wages and benefits of its employees, is much as what is happening with UBER and others

The brexit idea that once outside if the EU employers would be free to further the downward pressure on wages and employment conditions without EU protection for workers is meeting resistance

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'master knows best - support brexit'

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UK trade with the EU collapsed by nearly a quarter at the start of 2021 compared with three years before as Brexit and Covid-19 disruption hit exports, while China replaced Germany as the biggest single import market, according to official figures., https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/may/25/uk-trade-with-eu-falls-by-23-in-first-quarter-as-brexit-and-covid-hit

There is also quite a nice graphic in there which clearly shows that although the pandemic was the big factor last year the steep down turn in Q1 this year is directly linked to Brexit:

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