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13 hours ago, Herman said:

We were an honest race were we not? We accepted that politicians shouldn't be trusted fully but they also shouldn't take the ****. He did that and got away with it completely.

 

Don't think you made your case very well.

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16 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:

It's a pity you don't put some thought into providing a list of things that Cummings has ripped up and we could consider them.

You could start with the normal checks and balances of a functioning democracy. To tell the truth Cummings hasn't achieved very much yet and if you look at his time at Education with Gove that is not surprising. But if what is reported is to be believed the independence of the judiciary and the neutrality of the Cival Service are both underthreat. So is the Good Friday agreement that brought peace to NI and the devolution settlements in Wales and Scotland. The primacy of the Commons also looks eroded. Cummings has been elected by no one and yet seems to wield vast power. So pretty much everything that makes the UK what it is.

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12 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

His wife's house was the target of an arson attack by BLM protesters. He obviously feels the police are not able to protect his family. In other news Shemima Begum, the Isis terrorist is being allowed back into the country by the court of appeal

There's no evidence of this convicted thugs allegations, the local Police have no record of an arson attack.

RTB believing Yaxley-Lennon and then trying to connect it to BLM tells you all you need to know.

 

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"We have crushed the British to the ground, they are on their knees and will not rise for a long time."

Aleksandr Yakovenko, former Russian Ambassador to the UK and associate of Arron Banks

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25 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

His wife's house was the target of an arson attack by BLM protesters. He obviously feels the police are not able to protect his family. In other news Shemima Begum, the Isis terrorist is being allowed back into the country by the court of appeal

Poor man. It is as if spreading hatred has a negative effect and can cause blowback. 

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27 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

Don't think you made your case very well.

Couldn't really be bothered to be honest. 

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On 27/07/2020 at 22:50, Rock The Boat said:

Prorogation was to end one of the longest parliamentary sessions in modern times. It is the Queen that prorogates Parliament so the supreme court were actually trying to put themselves above the Monarch. for that reason alone, they need to go.

' Don't think you made your case very well. '

In facts, as usual, you were lying

And when shown to have been lying, you reverted to being Barbie Boy to try and weasel your way out of being caught

 

Road closures on A11 for roadworks | Eastern Daily Press

A11 - 2014

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7 hours ago, A Load of Squit said:

There's no evidence of this convicted thugs allegations, the local Police have no record of an arson attack.

RTB believing Yaxley-Lennon and then trying to connect it to BLM tells you all you need to know.

 

I wish everyone would stop talking about this guy.  He is nothing more than an attention seeker. As soon as his name falls from the main stream he will disappear forever.

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oh dear, poor righties

My little Fascist is no long living in the UK, but this has not stopped him from campaigning against those who claim to have suffered persecution in their own country - many who cannot speak the language of the country they have sought refuge in

However this move has not played well with fellow bigots. Many who thought they were donating money the 'cause', not the coke habit of a hypocrite who has taken their money and ran ....literally. As the house he bought * from the donations is now part of an expensive lifestyle funded by them.

They gave money to a crook who has a record of financial criminality and lying.  Just as let down as the numpties who voted for the lying Johnson. What, did they think these two were going to suddenly change ? Did they think the ever dishonest Farage was not going to fiddle his expenses and allowances ?

If you trust self-serving shysters then don't act surprised when they turn out to be ...................... self-serving shysters.

 

* his wife bought ...... in case any defamation lawyers are reading this

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Sam Lowe's twitter feed is interesting. All about the rules of origin trouble that is heading our way. 

@samuelmarclowel

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project fear.... baa baa.... four legs good.....farage lies..... baa baa
 
 

U.K. companies seeking to export their wares to the European Union will have to prove the origin of their goods to qualify for duty-free access under any potential post-Brexit free-trade agreement — a bureaucratic headache that’s about to menace 150 billion pounds ($195 billion) of goods.

The end of Britain’s customs union with the EU means U.K. firms will have to comply with so-called rules of origin to trade with nations in the region once the Brexit transition period ends on Dec. 31. Many have never had to identify the share of their exports that’s produced domestically, and if they can’t do it they’ll have to pay tariffs on goods shipped to the EU.

In addition to a new mountain of paperwork, a certificate of origin costs about 30 pounds per shipment, according to the U.K. Trade Policy Observatory at the University of Sussex.

The threat posed by post-Brexit rules-of-origin restrictions to U.K. operations of automakers such as Nissan and Toyota, which collectively employ about 10,000 people, could be existential.

That’s because trade agreements usually require about 55% of a product to be made locally in order to qualify for zero-tariff treatment. Yet only about 20% to 25% of the overall value of cars produced in the U.K. originates domestically, according to research group U.K. in a Changing Europe.

Even the famous Mini Cooper would be in the firing line. Only about 40% of the value of the parts in the iconic vehicle, made by BMW at its factory near Oxford, are produced in the U.K. Given that it would be virtually impossible for Mini to replace European-made parts with U.K.-made ones by Jan. 1, models exported from Britain would be on track to face a 10% tariff without an agreement on rules of origin.

“Price increases would be inevitable, with potential for reduced demand and therefore reduced production,” Graham Biggs, a spokesman for BMW, said in an email.

Hopes hang on the U.K. and EU coming to an agreement on rules of origin in their ongoing trade talks. Britain has made an ambitious proposal that counts inputs as local provided they originate from the bloc or any country with which the U.K. or EU has a trade agreement.

Until white smoke emerges from the talks — which could extend into October with no guarantees of a deal — companies are left not knowing whether they’ll have to reorganize their supply chains to be able to export to the EU tariff-free post-Brexit.''

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2020-07-30/supply-chains-latest-brexit-worries-pile-up-with-new-trade-rules

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On 30/07/2020 at 10:45, Herman said:

Sam Lowe's twitter feed is interesting. All about the rules of origin trouble that is heading our way. 

@samuelmarclowel

The response will be this is all about EU intransigance. Not sure the Brexwits understand the negotiation in trade negotiations.

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It has always been their bleat

The EU points out how it will if the UK chooses to leave the EU - ten has the cheek to stick to their position

The EU and the UK sign a Withdrawal Agreement - then the naughty EU expects the UK to honour that agreement

Next thing you know the WTO will be requiring the UK to accord with the 'most favoured nation' rule, whereby whatever the UK offers one country it has to offer every other one. Which even the stupidest of stupid Brexiteers should be able to work out should the UK agree a free trade deal with the EU is that the UK has to offer that to every other country, but they don't have to offer it back

No wonder they are all sat like vultures waiting to pounce

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21 minutes ago, Bill said:

It has always been their bleat

The EU points out how it will if the UK chooses to leave the EU - ten has the cheek to stick to their position

The EU and the UK sign a Withdrawal Agreement - then the naughty EU expects the UK to honour that agreement

Next thing you know the WTO will be requiring the UK to accord with the 'most favoured nation' rule, whereby whatever the UK offers one country it has to offer every other one. Which even the stupidest of stupid Brexiteers should be able to work out should the UK agree a free trade deal with the EU is that the UK has to offer that to every other country, but they don't have to offer it back

No wonder they are all sat like vultures waiting to pounce

So what you are claiming here is that if the EU offers a free trade deal to say, Canada, then the EU has to offer that to everybody, including the UK?

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5 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

So what you are claiming here is that if the EU offers a free trade deal to say, Canada, then the EU has to offer that to everybody, including the UK?

err no. because the EU and Canada would not be trading under WTO rules, therefore the most favoured nation rule would not apply

it is not that difficult...... unless you are a brexit thicko

 

 

ps the A11 has been dualled 😂

 

ta ra

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5 minutes ago, Bill said:

err no. because the EU and Canada would not be trading under WTO rules, therefore the most favoured nation rule would not apply

it is not that difficult...... unless you are a brexit thicko

 

 

ps the A11 has been dualled 😂

 

ta ra

So explain why most favoured nation status would be imposed by the WTO on the UK and.not Canada. 

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3 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:

So explain why most favoured nation status would be imposed by the WTO on the UK and.not Canada. 

Perhaps, putting it simply to you, it looks likely that the UK won't have a trade deal with the EU but Canada will.

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5 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:

So explain why most favoured nation status would be imposed by the WTO on the UK and.not Canada. 

More important, hand crank, is why you didn't know this - setting aside your usual ignorance on these matters

It is easy to find and has been discussed on here numerous times

However, if you do have the limited memory as Swindon, them let me refresh that space

"under the WTO's "most favoured nation" rules, the UK couldn't lower tariffs just for the EU (or any specific country) without doing so for the rest of the world, unless it had agreed a trade deal, or as part of a transition to that deal."

and it is not being imposed or any other similar nonsense, this was what the UK agreed to when it was introduced, and what the UK has voluntarily sought to use

 

ps this evolved out of GATT when it became the WTO - and did you not tell us once that you worked on the GATT agreement talks in Uruguay..... or were you just lying again ?

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If you are feeling brave go and have a look at the video Esther McVey has just posted. You may get a fist shaped hole in your laptop though.😳

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55 minutes ago, Herman said:

If you are feeling brave go and have a look at the video Esther McVey has just posted. You may get a fist shaped hole in your laptop though.😳

Is that the same Esther McVey that thought the UK had to adopt the Euro if it remained a member after 2020?

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More brexit stupidity

No doubt it has escaped what limited thought the average brexiteer has, but the Eurotunnel is a joint venture between the UK and France. Therefore there has to be joint agreement on it's running. Which means an agreed method for resolving any disagreements, Up to now it has had such a method, It works, keeps the tunnel running smoothly and without disruption

Sadly that is now threatened by brexiteer stupidity

"“It would mean train drivers would have to have two sets of qualifications to drive on the British and French side of the tunnel. It would affect how you operate the tunnel with potential for divergence in the future on everything from signalling, voltage, the radio systems, the signalling system, ventilation, hydraulics. It would be like driving on the left- and right-hand side of the road at the same time,” said a source."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/30/brexit-european-court-row-puts-eurotunnel-operations-at-risk

 

 

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I'm confused, my Bexiteer friends assured me that the EU was breaking up, that the example sety by Brexit would eagerly be followed. How come satisfaction with the EU in Ireland is now 92%. Don't they know how much better global Britain will be. Or is this because Boris has gifted them Northern Ireland?

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Brexit seems to be gifting a lot of stuff to other countries and entities. What we'll get in return is anyone's guess. 

It's Ironic that the biggest threat to the English nation is English nationalism. 

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4 hours ago, Herman said:

Brexit seems to be gifting a lot of stuff to other countries and entities. What we'll get in return is anyone's guess. 

It's Ironic that the biggest threat to the English nation is English nationalism. 

is Johnson...... though he has promised to lose weight this summer

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Claire Fox
@Fox_Claire
· Aug 1
For those reminding me that I've always argued to abolish the Lords: well spotted. I stand by that. But as w @TheGreenParty peers, I'll argue that in #HoL while it exists. I have some recent experience as an MEP of participating in an undemocratic body, which I disagree with
 
This woman is so stupid, she was elected as an MEP, she needs to look up the meaning of 'undemocratic'.
 
 

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I have some recent experience as an MEP, thanks to advice from Nigel Farage, of how to claim expenses and allowances for not turning up

something I intend to do in the HoL

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Sigh.Looks like we're back to stockpiling again. I assume it's a bluff but it is hard to tell with the government.

 

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But surely brexit was to deliver up a wealth of trade deals that would enrich the UK beyond its wildest dream - not clogged up ports and shortages of food and medicines

It can't be that so many simple minded folk were conned, can it ?

Still, Johnson did say in July 2019 that he had a plan to deal with dysfunctional care home system -

kill off the residents would seem to be the plan

much as with the housing shortage - kill off the elderly so as to free up housing

never mind. he also has a plan to deal with obesity (the irony of it coming from him) by encouraging folk to go out and stuff themselves....subsidised by the government

 

 

............. it will be the meek he is after next 🙄

 

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11 minutes ago, How I Wrote Elastic Man said:

A Kent Access Permit!

wow, if this comes to pass, I´m looking forward to people trying to pass this one off as "what we voted for"

Border in Kent will create more red tape for hauliers

Good to see the government tacking back control of .......... its own internal county borders

Which we would assume include all other ports

And I wonder if these borders will be required to have EU monitoring, as with the other internal border now being set up in the Irish Sea

 

ps let's hope this doesn't cause too many headaches..................

................as there looks like there's going to be a medicines shortage, as well 🚑

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