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The Germans who have relaxed some lock down measures have seen infections rise as a result.

How can they now countenance kicking off their football season by next week as promised.

Take note Boris and stop the PL madness.

Also no international flights from Germany until May 11, are any of our Teutonic players are currently stuck in the fatherland.  Could be a problem should Project Restart continue to be a live issue however impractical.

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Apparently, it is being discussed today in a meeting between the federal govt and the states - heard in R4 this morning. Probably won't make a decision yet though, because it is still early days with regards the data.

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6 minutes ago, pete said:

The Germans who have relaxed some lock down measures have seen infections rise as a result.

How can they now countenance kicking off their football season by next week as promised.

Take note Boris and stop the PL madness.

Also no international flights from Germany until May 11, are any of our Teutonic players are currently stuck in the fatherland.  Could be a problem should Project Restart continue to be a live issue however impractical.

A few of our german players seem to have been back in Germany although whether they are still there I don't know. 

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29 minutes ago, Jim Smith said:

A few of our german players seem to have been back in Germany although whether they are still there I don't know. 

That is a very valid point, Football in Europe is played by players from all over the  world, therefore the only real and safe option is  NOT to play again until this virus is under control. The danger of football being the cause of an outbreak somewhere  cannot be ignored. Too many nationalities involved whose home countries are all at different stages of the virus' journey.  The more I think about it , the more convinced I am that no footy for the foreseeable  future is the only  way. 

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14 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

Rate of infection in Germany is increasing so they should be cautious

It's depressing because it looked as though Germany was leading the way. As it happens they look as though they have got it horribly wrong.

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1 minute ago, Capt. Pants said:

It's depressing because it looked as though Germany was leading the way. As it happens they look as though they have got it horribly wrong.

The question persists why western, developed countries have been so badly hit even with their sophisticated health systems and resources.

There has to be some sort of genetic link or other thing going on here to see western immune response to be so much worse than elsewhere

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5 hours ago, pete said:

The Germans who have relaxed some lock down measures have seen infections rise as a result.

How can they now countenance kicking off their football season by next week as promised.

Take note Boris and stop the PL madness.

Also no international flights from Germany until May 11, are any of our Teutonic players are currently stuck in the fatherland.  Could be a problem should Project Restart continue to be a live issue however impractical.

It’s now been pushed back. No date for resuming given, but won’t be May.

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2 hours ago, The Real Buh said:

The question persists why western, developed countries have been so badly hit even with their sophisticated health systems and resources.

There has to be some sort of genetic link or other thing going on here to see western immune response to be so much worse than elsewhere

It's because people in the western world travel, or at least travelled, the world on business and pleasure. This is why the R was so high. In less developed countries there isn't the travel so the infection doesn't spread at anywhere near the same rate. 

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Just now, Matt Juler said:

It's because people in the western world travel, or at least travelled, the world on business and pleasure. This is why the R was so high. In less developed countries there isn't the travel so the infection doesn't spread at anywhere near the same rate. 

But it’s there and the population is dense. The world travel only accounts to the speed at which it moves from China to the affected country.

If it’s on every country on earth and nobody has any natural immunity then it should be running through dense communities. 
 

Although I believe we definitely need to re-assess how we move about the planet, our links with China (and over-reliance) and the fact our cities our overcrowded hell holes

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It's not just world travel though, it's also internal travel/mobility (city workers commuting, second homes, etc) and increased disposable income with fewer working hours means more time spent socialising and in other 'pleasure' activities like going to the pub etc...

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2 minutes ago, cornish sam said:

It's not just world travel though, it's also internal travel/mobility (city workers commuting, second homes, etc) and increased disposable income with fewer working hours means more time spent socialising and in other 'pleasure' activities like going to the pub etc...

So you get them to isolate in their homes and they starve to death

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It hasn't happened yet, or at least it hasn't been reported, but it's very likely that a less developed country will have a massive outbreak with 100,000s dead.

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1 hour ago, Matt Juler said:

It hasn't happened yet, or at least it hasn't been reported, but it's very likely that a less developed country will have a massive outbreak with 100,000s dead.

The fact it hasn't happened yet is interesting though isn't it. Unless of course its not been reported. Because quite a few less developed countries than us got cases at around the same time and in those countries people live in close proximity with often poor sanitation. You would have expected this disease to have rampaged through those countries and yet it hasn't yet which is quite strange?

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5 hours ago, The Real Buh said:

The question persists why western, developed countries have been so badly hit even with their sophisticated health systems and resources.

There has to be some sort of genetic link or other thing going on here to see western immune response to be so much worse than elsewhere

There are strong links to obesity being reported. Statistics show men over 55 who are overweight are far more susceptible but it's not certain if the weight itself is to blame or associated problems that obesity can cause.

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10 hours ago, Jim Smith said:

The fact it hasn't happened yet is interesting though isn't it. Unless of course its not been reported. Because quite a few less developed countries than us got cases at around the same time and in those countries people live in close proximity with often poor sanitation. You would have expected this disease to have rampaged through those countries and yet it hasn't yet which is quite strange?

I think that social segregation actually accounts for quite a lot of that. Someone I work with used to be on a governmental board that looked at this kind of thing and she said it was being characterised as a middle class pandemic by people she knew still in those circles. The reason this has spread like it did (she claimed) is in large part due to the trend for middle class in China to "go slumming" and eat street food with the poor people, hence the disease from undercooked bat got into the middle, mobile class and so was seeded far wider than it would have been and travelled internationally (for reasons outlined in my previous post). In the poorer countries the contagions have been restricted partly through the fact it's mainly the middle/upper class catching it first and they are less likely to come into proximity with the people who live in the slums and more likely to have access to good health care and the capability to isolate or be isolated...

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7 hours ago, cornish sam said:

I think that social segregation actually accounts for quite a lot of that. Someone I work with used to be on a governmental board that looked at this kind of thing and she said it was being characterised as a middle class pandemic by people she knew still in those circles. The reason this has spread like it did (she claimed) is in large part due to the trend for middle class in China to "go slumming" and eat street food with the poor people, hence the disease from undercooked bat got into the middle, mobile class and so was seeded far wider than it would have been and travelled internationally (for reasons outlined in my previous post). In the poorer countries the contagions have been restricted partly through the fact it's mainly the middle/upper class catching it first and they are less likely to come into proximity with the people who live in the slums and more likely to have access to good health care and the capability to isolate or be isolated...

That's a very interesting theory Sammo, our society is much more integrated than many, hence its widespread nature in the UK. 

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Some factually incorrect statements on here. The reported infection rate has not increased.so far following release of restrictions  in fact further restriction releases have been made as a result  

The decision regarding football resuming has been pushed back one week so may still resume in May.  The government official responsible for making the decision said that the German football authorities have good hygiene measures in place, football is important for moral and that a return for football is conceivable but no decision one way or the other 

I don’t know where people are getting their information from but it is.certainly not from reputable news sources and definitely not from the main German news sources. 

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FC Cologne have tweeted that three of their staff have tested positive yet they are continuing with training. 

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1 hour ago, Jim Smith said:

FC Cologne have tweeted that three of their staff have tested positive yet they are continuing with training. 

Yeah just seen that, 2 players and a coach have tested positive. They are to self isolate for 14 day’s but the rest to continue training. 

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2 minutes ago, JF said:

Yeah just seen that, 2 players and a coach have tested positive. They are to self isolate for 14 day’s but the rest to continue training. 

What a joke.  I really think the Germans are wrong in allowing this to go on.

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3 minutes ago, Van wink said:

What a joke.  I really think the Germans are wrong in allowing this to go on.

This is part of their plan apparently and it’s also part of the PL plan, I posted a link to this on one of these threads last night. If players test positive and are out for 14 days it will be treated as just another injury 

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2 minutes ago, JF said:

This is part of their plan apparently and it’s also part of the PL plan, I posted a link to this on one of these threads last night. If players test positive and are out for 14 days it will be treated as just another injury 

What about all the others they may have infected. Its ridiculous.

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52 minutes ago, JF said:

This is part of their plan apparently and it’s also part of the PL plan, I posted a link to this on one of these threads last night. If players test positive and are out for 14 days it will be treated as just another injury 

I posted earlier that if this happened to a Norwich City player then I sincerely hoped the.club.would make its excuses and leave the other 19 clubs to carry on.

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Football has lost the plot and is going to lose lots of support if it's not very careful.

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Posted (edited)

Not a good start to Bundesliga plans and just goes to show what a stupid idea it is to contemplate any restart of football or football training in any country!

 

BBC Sport: breaking news:

Three people at German football club FC Cologne have tested positive for coronavirus, the German club have confirmed, although they say training will "continue as planned".

The Bundesliga is set to become the first major football league in Europe to return to competition.

Officials suggested a resumption on 9 May but government delayed the decision and a restart may now be 16 or 23 May.

 

 

 

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