ricardo 7,349 Posted March 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Aggy said: Funny you don’t respond to any substantive points raised. Scaremongering, selfishness. But hey, it’s everyone else who is being ridiculous because they haven’t stockpiled for months on end. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11226440/three-junior-doctors-aged-30-struck-down-by-coronavirus-in-the-same-hospital/ over 70's with flu indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,638 Posted March 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, ricardo said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11226440/three-junior-doctors-aged-30-struck-down-by-coronavirus-in-the-same-hospital/ over 70's with flu indeed. The clue there is that they are doctors - there’s evidence that medical staff are so bombarded by the virus that they are at a greater risk of getting it. A young (40s) otherwise healthy Italian paramedic died earlier in the week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,349 Posted March 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: The clue there is that they are doctors - there’s evidence that medical staff are so bombarded by the virus that they are at a greater risk of getting it. A young (40s) otherwise healthy Italian paramedic died earlier in the week. The young certainly have a dellusional sense of invincibility if the crowds of youngster I see wandering about are anything to go by. How long before we have enforced containment? It can't be far off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,638 Posted March 22, 2020 It’ll certainly be sooner rather than later, due to people seemingly being unable to act on advice. It seems to be how society is nowadays. Interestingly, there seems to have been a ‘spike’ from people who attended Cheltenham last week - 60-70k were squashed into the crowd for 4 days - at the time it felt odd given football was suspended the weekend before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,349 Posted March 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: It’ll certainly be sooner rather than later, due to people seemingly being unable to act on advice. It seems to be how society is nowadays. Interestingly, there seems to have been a ‘spike’ from people who attended Cheltenham last week - 60-70k were squashed into the crowd for 4 days - at the time it felt odd given football was suspended the weekend before. All part of the invincibility syndrome. The older you get the more you realise that it is an illusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,717 Posted March 22, 2020 Charlie Austin thinks he may have caught it at Cheltenham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T 190 Posted March 22, 2020 It seems to be how UK society is nowadays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,783 Posted March 22, 2020 I'm sure lockdown will come to the UK this week. The public haven't been following the advice, so they're going to be made to stay at home, whether they like it not. But what may shock the bulk-buyers and hoarders is that supermarket shopping will still be allowed. Even in China under the super-strict quarantine it was permitted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,349 Posted March 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Herman said: Charlie Austin thinks he may have caught it at Cheltenham. But did he back any winners? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggy 752 Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, ricardo said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11226440/three-junior-doctors-aged-30-struck-down-by-coronavirus-in-the-same-hospital/ over 70's with flu indeed. Err.. yeah, people get it. Hundreds of thousands of people have caught it and are fine. I could have had it and not realised. The reason for the social distancing is that there are vulnerable people who won’t survive it. It may shock you Ricardo, but not everyone is solely out for themselves. Some of the decisions, made by the government (and those millions of people who have heeded their guidance) are done for the good of the community, even where there’s no real benefit for certain individuals. Edited March 22, 2020 by Aggy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggy 752 Posted March 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: I'm sure lockdown will come to the UK this week. The public haven't been following the advice, so they're going to be made to stay at home, whether they like it not. But what may shock the bulk-buyers and hoarders is that supermarket shopping will still be allowed. Even in China under the super-strict quarantine it was permitted. Did they have tsunami sirens? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,349 Posted March 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: I'm sure lockdown will come to the UK this week. The public haven't been following the advice, so they're going to be made to stay at home, whether they like it not. But what may shock the bulk-buyers and hoarders is that supermarket shopping will still be allowed. Even in China under the super-strict quarantine it was permitted. Will be utterly pointless if thousands are milling about in Tesco's etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggy 752 Posted March 22, 2020 Just now, ricardo said: Will be utterly pointless if thousands are milling about in Tesco's etc Yeah, like in China where...oh it’s slowed down loads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,349 Posted March 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Aggy said: Some of the decisions, made by the government (and those millions of people who have heeded their guidance) are done for the good of the community, even where there’s no real benefit for certain individuals. Thats exactly why I have stayed at home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggy 752 Posted March 22, 2020 Just now, ricardo said: Thats exactly why I have stayed at home. And stockpiled unnecessarily and criticised everyone who hasn’t. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,349 Posted March 22, 2020 Just now, Aggy said: Yeah, like in China where...oh it’s slowed down loads. If you had watched the videos you would have seen people being allowed intl shops one at a time. At no time were supermarkets open for all and sundry to mill about. Most apartment blocks were sealed off and food delivered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggy 752 Posted March 22, 2020 Just now, ricardo said: If you had watched the videos you would have seen people being allowed intl shops one at a time. At no time were supermarkets open for all and sundry to mill about. Most apartment blocks were sealed off and food delivered. So if people were being allowed to shop (albeit one at a time) and food was being delivered, why do we need to stockpile for weeks as you have criticised others for not doing? Doesn’t really stack up does it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,783 Posted March 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, ricardo said: Will be utterly pointless if thousands are milling about in Tesco's etc I posted this video of a supermarket in Milan yesterday in another thread. If the supermarkets adopt a maximum capacity and a 'one in, one out' policy with those outside kept a metre apart, and the public adheres to it, there's no issue. If people continue to flout government advice by cramming into crowded supermarkets, bulk-buying and fighting amongst each other then I guess we have bigger long-term problems than coronavirus. VID-20200321-WA0003.mp4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,349 Posted March 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Aggy said: And stockpiled unnecessarily and criticised everyone who hasn’t. People have spent weeks not listening to sound advice. That is why the shelves are empty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggy 752 Posted March 22, 2020 Just now, ricardo said: People have spent weeks not listening to sound advice. That is why the shelves are empty. Sorry, before I say this makes no sense, could you explain? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,066 Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Aggy said: ps. Replied to this before seeing fz’s similar response No worries, just glad someone else was as appalled by the tsunami metaphor as I was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,349 Posted March 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Aggy said: So if people were being allowed to shop (albeit one at a time) and food was being delivered, why do we need to stockpile for weeks as you have criticised others for not doing? Doesn’t really stack up does it. Don't shoot the messenger you are always at liberty to ignore any advice. However the crunch has occurred because many either disputed there was going to be a problem or didn't want to believe how bad it might get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T 190 Posted March 22, 2020 The shops are empty now because of irresponsible scaremongering and not listening to sound advice not to stockpile.Otherwise why are shops calm orderly and stocked in other countries with severer restrictions? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,349 Posted March 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Fiery Zac said: No worries, just glad someone else was as appalled by the tsunami metaphor as I was. You were meant to be because in case you hadn't noticed, the casualty list is likely to be of an even greater scale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggy 752 Posted March 22, 2020 Just now, ricardo said: Don't shoot the messenger you are always at liberty to ignore any advice. However the crunch has occurred because many either disputed there was going to be a problem or didn't want to believe how bad it might get. What has the advice been Ricardo? There hasn’t been any advice to stockpile. In fact, the advice has been the exact opposite. You’re making it up to justify your own selfishness aren’t you? What you mean, is that you’ve been stockpiling for weeks against all actual advice, and are now calling people stupid for not doing so. This ignores anyone who can’t afford to buy extra food each week. Some people can barely afford a weekly shop, never mind adding extra on. Stupid aren’t they! It ignores people who have large families and can’t store food for three weeks for a family of five. stupid aren’t they! It ignores the elderly who don’t have internet for home delivery and can basically bring home what they can carry (not three weeks worth of tins of dry food). Stupid! Just now, ricardo said: You were meant to be because in case you hadn't noticed, the casualty list is likely to be of an even greater scale. Had people, including you, followed the actual advice (don’t stockpile, there’s no need), then there would be enough for everyone. You’ve been selfish and are now calling others out for not being selfish. You’ve confirmed you were aware that even in China people could still go to the shops and could get deliveries, so there’s no need to panic buy and stock up for weeks in advance. Yet your only justification for doing so is some “advice” which you’ve just made up. You called me out on another thread a few days ago for suggesting that the economic impact on millions of non-risk people could be just as disastrous as anything else. Really Ricardo you’re looking out for yourself and that’s all. You have every right to do so of course. Just perhaps consider that your preaching says more about the sort of person you are than it does those you’re criticising. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,349 Posted March 22, 2020 1 minute ago, T said: The shops are empty now because of irresponsible scaremongering and not listening to sound advice not to stockpile.Otherwise why are shops calm orderly and stocked in other countries with severer restrictions? The shops are empty because the unwary panicked when they finally accepted the reality of what was happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T 190 Posted March 22, 2020 The messenger is part of the UK attitude problem by encouraging irrational stockpiling that is causing the problem in the UK that does not exist in other countries with severer restrictions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,066 Posted March 22, 2020 Have you stockpiled enough for the next year? The warnings (which you’re so keen on) are that this will last a long time before a vaccine is ready. Will be interesting to see how Chinas numbers change once lockdown is relaxed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggy 752 Posted March 22, 2020 Just now, ricardo said: You were meant to be because in case you hadn't noticed, the casualty list is likely to be of an even greater scale. Lol. 250,000 died in a couple of hours in the 2004 tsunamis. There were no warning sirens in most of the countries. Quarter of a million dead. Youve just said they would have been fine had they been more sensible. Perhaps think before you post a Ricardo because you’re beginning to look ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,066 Posted March 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, ricardo said: You were meant to be because in case you hadn't noticed, the casualty list is likely to be of an even greater scale. Hilarious. So clever to deliberately twist what I was clearly saying. Well done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites