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21 minutes ago, ricardo said:

Hospitalisation and deaths still decreasing.

If Omicron is indeed less dangerous then rising cases may be irrelevant.

Time will tell.

The mutations making it more transmissible but less virulent ūü§ě

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1 hour ago, Van wink said:

The mutations making it more transmissible but less virulent ūü§ě

Early indications suggest this will be how it plays out.

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2 hours ago, ricardo said:

National

51,459 - 45

rate of increase of  9.1%     Omicron is here.

Omicron is indeed here but formally we only have 336 cases so far - the upsurge here is likely still mainly Delta.

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Regarding the reports in last 24 hours or so about the Booster program slowing down or stalling despite the Government wanting it sped up, in my case it feels so. Im in my mid 60s and my Booster request was received nearly 2 weeks ago in City centre, same for my son in his 40s and with Special Needs and we are still waiting for a confirmation date of any kind. It of course has now clashed with the "All adults can now receive the Booster".

While really wanting to get our boosters, especially as Omicron  has now started to spread itself widely,  as with my double jabs earlier in the year patience is required i guess.

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Just an observation on Omicron doubling speed.

If, as is suggested, it is doubling every few days unconstrained that would to me seem to suggest that its either found an otherwise undiscovered unvaccinated tribe (perhaps children?)  - or as now seems far more likely - vaccines themselves are not 'slowing' it much effectively (but lets hope in severity). Clearly there is no 'herd' or population immunity saturation effect visible at present.

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26 minutes ago, Essjayess said:

Regarding the reports in last 24 hours or so about the Booster program slowing down or stalling despite the Government wanting it sped up, in my case it feels so. Im in my mid 60s and my Booster request was received nearly 2 weeks ago in City centre, same for my son in his 40s and with Special Needs and we are still waiting for a confirmation date of any kind. It of course has now clashed with the "All adults can now receive the Booster".

While really wanting to get our boosters, especially as Omicron  has now started to spread itself widely,  as with my double jabs earlier in the year patience is required i guess.

Was and partly is not good. Messed up by 1. Not being taken seriously in September 2. Cancelling the leases on the hubs 3. I know at which point you can go and get your booster, I wonder if any of you know wether it’s 3, 5 or 6 months currently 4. The leases on the big hubs cannot be renewed until mid January 5. Weren’t getting the important people there ie the more mature so invited over 40’s.

Johnson has told you what you want to hear. As I have said many times forget texts, emails, booking, get to a walk in where you can get your jab straight away ( answer to 3. is 5 months at a walk in 6 on a booking ). Don’t delay please get it now. 

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26 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said:

Just an observation on Omicron doubling speed.

If, as is suggested, it is doubling every few days unconstrained that would to me seem to suggest that its either found an otherwise undiscovered unvaccinated tribe (perhaps children?)  - or as now seems far more likely - vaccines themselves are not 'slowing' it much effectively (but lets hope in severity). Clearly there is no 'herd' or population immunity saturation effect visible at present.

Indeed, there’s an anomaly there, if it is that transmission is high because of single vaccines and reduced effectiveness, then it’s worth keeping an eye on the groups who’s actually testing positive on this variant. The numbers are still not a worry if hospitalisation and deaths stay at around the rate we’re currently seeing and first info on the severity of this strain is very encouraging.

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National

45,691 - 180

rate of increase of  12.1%     slow rise

Local

Norwich   West rate             294.2      Local   R  estimated 0.9 - 1.1

    

N&N Patients  (falling)

30-11-2021                                20
29-11-2021 23
28-11-2021 24
27-11-2021 26
 
 

Vax     

1st Dose      19,979              88.9% done                               Norwich numbers   77.7% 

2nd Dose     25,012              81% done                                                                  70.9%


Booster     329,165     total          20,909,809                36.4%

In Hospital 

 

06-12-2021                                       7,317
05-12-2021 7,223
04-12-2021 7,128
03-12-2021 7,288
02-12-2021 7,390
01-12-2021 7,330
30-11-2021 7,661

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Omicron.....anagram of Moronic.....Omicron B.....anagram of No crimbo.....

Edited by Mello Yello

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2 hours ago, CANARYKING said:

“ Plan B “ on the horizon, vaccine passports on the agenda for attending CR

this should be fun... New rules for the plebs to follow. This from someone boosted and already WFH anyway...

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Don’t shoot the messenger 

Growing expectation new Covid restrictions set to be announced

Our political editor Laura Kuenssberg says there is "growing expectation" in Westminster that the government is about to announce extra Covid restrictions. 

"Nothing confirmed but turning out out to be quite the day,"

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46 minutes ago, Well b back said:

Don’t shoot the messenger 

Growing expectation new Covid restrictions set to be announced

Our political editor Laura Kuenssberg says there is "growing expectation" in Westminster that the government is about to announce extra Covid restrictions. 

"Nothing confirmed but turning out out to be quite the day,"

no indoor gatherings outside SW1A 2AB postcode?!

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6 minutes ago, ricardo said:

Can't  see anybody paying regard to further restrictions now. Its blown wide open.

The restrictions will be for the boosters to be administered, if he had taken them serious in the first place we wouldn’t be in this position. 300,000 of the most vulnerable ie the housebound yet to be vaccinated, shutting the hubs to name but a few things. Restrictions are to slow the variant down to protect those people that should already be protected.

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30 minutes ago, ricardo said:

Can't  see anybody paying regard to further restrictions now. Its blown wide open.

many will. This country has plenty of people who love being told what to do rather than rely on their own common sense. It's engrained in our education system.

Not much really for the individual to follow though with vaccine passports and WFH guidance, more on businesses.

At this point I see it all a bit futile really. The virus is gonna virus and all you can really do is fight it with vaccines and treatments.

I absolutely detest our government using the vaccine as a political football at this point, risks undermining it and other vaccines.

I feel like at this point we'd do a better job of pandemic management if the whole lot in government just sacked it off now ūüėÜ

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35 minutes ago, ricardo said:

Can't  see anybody paying regard to further restrictions now. Its blown wide open.

Its certainly going to give the antis a reason, not an excuse, for non mask wearing etc.

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19 hours ago, ricardo said:

 

Vax     


1st Dose      19,979              88.9% done                               Norwich numbers   77.7% 

2nd Dose     25,012              81% done                                                                  70.9%


Booster     329,165     total          20,909,809                36.4%

This statistic is painful to see, why do we lag behind so much in terms of vaccination in this fine city? I hope we can all agree on the efficacy of the vaccine, especially with the evidence being so clear. 

Does anyone have any guesses as to the reason that Norwich lags behind the rest of the country?

Factor's to consider:

  • The average age of the county being significantly higher than the national average, uptake is generally better amongst older age groups.
  • Demographic of the area is more polar than the national average, with lower representation of¬†groups who have been reported to have lower uptake.¬†

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12 minutes ago, greendoor said:

This statistic is painful to see, why do we lag behind so much in terms of vaccination in this fine city? I hope we can all agree on the efficacy of the vaccine, especially with the evidence being so clear. 

Does anyone have any guesses as to the reason that Norwich lags behind the rest of the country?

Factor's to consider:

  • The average age of the county being significantly higher than the national average, uptake is generally better amongst older age groups.
  • Demographic of the area is more polar than the national average, with lower representation of¬†groups who have been reported to have lower uptake.¬†

it must be an age thing surely?

Norwich is hardly the most culturally diverse area of the country and most of the patterns of low uptake come from BAME communities. I was lead to believe this accounts for many of Londons woes in vaccine rates compared to the rest of the country.

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23 hours ago, Well b back said:

Was and partly is not good. Messed up by 1. Not being taken seriously in September 2. Cancelling the leases on the hubs 3. I know at which point you can go and get your booster, I wonder if any of you know wether it’s 3, 5 or 6 months currently 4. The leases on the big hubs cannot be renewed until mid January 5. Weren’t getting the important people there ie the more mature so invited over 40’s.

Johnson has told you what you want to hear. As I have said many times forget texts, emails, booking, get to a walk in where you can get your jab straight away ( answer to 3. is 5 months at a walk in 6 on a booking ). Don’t delay please get it now. 

Well, tried a walk in and no i couldnt get a jab straight away, they said i need to go thru my own GP practice to obtain official documentation. So then i rang my GP's practice and after a long and lengthy wait on the line finally got a Booster appointment for myself and my son...for January 8th.

Ive heard so many do this and do that conflicting reports about the Booster program and  it all seems very messy..now my son and i have a month long wait for our Booster but at least we now have a time thank goodness.

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On 13/03/2020 at 11:33, BigManInTheBarclay said:

I can see the rest of the season being written off.....quite how they'll handle that in terms of legal issues is another thing.

Some people are requesting this season be null and void and start again next season....that could potentially cripple the EFL in terms of financial implications.

Let's hope sensible heads prevail

I keep seeing this thread at the bottom of the first page and wonder for 2022.....

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2 hours ago, greendoor said:

This statistic is painful to see, why do we lag behind so much in terms of vaccination in this fine city? I hope we can all agree on the efficacy of the vaccine, especially with the evidence being so clear. 

Does anyone have any guesses as to the reason that Norwich lags behind the rest 

Large student population with home addresses all over the country and indeed all over the world who may well have been vaxed in their home area but don't  show up on our vax count.

It is very diverse in NR2 and to be honest everyone I know including some students have been vaxxed. 

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16 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said:

I keep seeing this thread at the bottom of the first page and wonder for 2022.....

The precedent has been set so they will finish the season even if they have to call in the pools panel.

If you want to know in advance I can tell you now that we are relegated.ūüėČ

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A bit more on Pfizer and the boosters just released, good news. As I have said many times we should be so much more protected but now there will be a clamber for the boosters with the hubs reopening mid January. I understand the vaccinating of the house bound will finally start next week. 
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-59582006

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2 minutes ago, Well b back said:

A bit more on Pfizer and the boosters just released, good news. As I have said many times we should be so much more protected but now there will be a clamber for the boosters with the hubs reopening mid January. I understand the vaccinating of the house bound will finally start next week. 
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-59582006

excellent news WBB

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National

51,342 - 161

rate of increase of  11.3%    

Local

Norwich   West rate             346.1      Local   R  estimated 0.9 - 1.1

    

N&N Patients  (falling)

30-11-2021                                20
29-11-2021 23
28-11-2021 24
27-11-2021 26
 
 

Vax     

1st Dose      23,512              89% done                               Norwich numbers   77.7%        Booster rate 26.1

2nd Dose     28,375              81.1% done                                                                  70.9%


Booster     391,050     total          21,300,859                37%

In Hospital 

07-12-2021                                    7,317
06-12-2021 7,339
05-12-2021 7,239
04-12-2021 7,143
03-12-2021 7,302
02-12-2021 7,401
01-12-2021 7,338

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