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[Well b back 2,941]

2 minutes ago, Teemu’s right foot said:

You’re hilarious. A paper by scientists is now considered conspiracy theories... I honestly fear for you when this is over as you’re so consumed by it you may not be able to make that transition back into normality 

Lol

This is not a published paper, it is an opinion. It clearly says most getting a Covid test really have pneumonia and flu. That is a conspiracy theory. 
He quotes the paper I quoted to you to show tests work ( see earlier post ) and you called me a tool for believing it.

[Alex Moss 2,165]

59 minutes ago, Teemu’s right foot said:

You think that someone who wants to hug a loved one is “prepared to kill them” and I’m the stupid one....

Lol! I admire how you’ve broadened that into a sweeping generalisation, you really are the master of making up utter shoite ha ha

But the others of us know we were talking about unnecessary contact with the particularly vulnerable and elderly, something you’re very happy to ignore because as you told us all, YOU have a lesser chance of dying. Very classy!

[Teemu’s right foot 53]

2 minutes ago, Well b back said:

Lol

This is not a published paper, it is an opinion. It clearly says most getting a Covid test really have pneumonia and flu. That is a conspiracy theory. 
He quotes the paper I quoted to you to show tests work ( see earlier post ) and you called me a tool for believing it.

It’s mad conspiracy theories is what it is. Just looking at those names absolutely smacks of tin foil hat wearers...

[Teemu’s right foot 53]

12 minutes ago, Alex Moss said:

Lol! I admire how you’ve broadened that into a sweeping generalisation, you really are the master of making up utter shoite ha ha

But the others of us know we were talking about unnecessary contact with the particularly vulnerable and elderly, something you’re very happy to ignore because as you told us all, YOU have a lesser chance of dying. Very classy!

Thanks Alex. What’s in store for you today? Another day of hiding behind the sofa attempting not to kill anyone? What a grim crime, Your Honour, he stands accused of hugging them to death...

 

Edited November 28, 2020 by Teemu’s right foot

[Alex Moss 2,165]

34 minutes ago, Well b back said:

Hi Alex

Theres another bit that he does not get in this. He is saying Covid doesn’t exist in most cases and it’s really pneumonia and flu. He doesn’t quite grasp that there is still no proven treatment for Covid and up until July there wasn’t even a treatment at all. People were kept alive the best possible on ventilators and trying different potions. Basically they were not therefore treated as nothing could be done. With pneumonia and flu of course there are proven treatments, they don’t always work, but there are treatments. 
By saying they really had pneumonia and flu, he is saying those diagnosed Covid were left to die by doctors, effectively doctors have blood on their hands.

 

3 minutes ago, Well b back said:

Lol

This is not a published paper, it is an opinion. It clearly says most getting a Covid test really have pneumonia and flu. That is a conspiracy theory. 
He quotes the paper I quoted to you to show tests work ( see earlier post ) and you called me a tool for believing it.

Talking of tools, weirdly I’m still waiting on him to show me his claim that I’ve stated ‘cancer is silly’. Went a bit quiet that one, it’s almost as if he can’t stop making stuff up

[Tetteys Jig 820]

Guys, best to ignore @Teemu’s right foot.

Absolute cretin of the highest order and there is absolutely no reasoning with him.

He thrives off peoples replies so best to just mute and ignore him and let him crawl back into his cave where he belongs.

Just be glad he isn't the one calling the shots!

[Well b back 2,941]

Fact-checked by: Science Feedback

2020/11/06 | United States

FALSE: Former scientific advisor to Pfizer Michael Yeadon claims that “the pandemic is fundamentally over in the U.K.,” and, “we now know loads of people had prior immunity” to COVID-19

Explanation: Between September and early November 2020, there was a spike in the number of daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations, and deaths in the U.K, and this trend will likely persist for some time. Hence the claim that “the pandemic is fundamentally over in the U.K.” is false. 

[Well b back 2,941]

Just now, Tetteys Jig said:

Guys, best to ignore @Teemu’s right foot.

Absolute cretin of the highest order and there is absolutely no reasoning with him.

He thrives off peoples replies so best to just mute and ignore him and let him crawl back into his cave where he belongs.

Just be glad he isn't the one calling the shots!

Spot on.

No more replies from me.

[Alex Moss 2,165]

8 minutes ago, Teemu’s right foot said:

Thanks Alex. What’s in store for you today? Another day of hiding behind the sofa attempting not to kill anyone? What a grim crime, Your Honour, he stands accused of hugging them to death...

I’m pleased that you find it all so trivial, but don’t worry, I do forgive mindless idiots like you for being largely responsible for our second lockdown. Luckily when you’ve come out of the supermarket proudly rebelling against wearing a face mask, you can go and hug granny, because after all although there’s a chance you could pass on a killer virus to her, y’know, you *probably* won’t so that’s well worth the risk, I mean it’s only a *chance* . And regardless, even if it does kill granny, more importantly - that’s ok because you’ll be ok, after all, undetected underlying health issues are really not a thing

[Alex Moss 2,165]

10 minutes ago, Tetteys Jig said:

Guys, best to ignore @Teemu’s right foot.

Absolute cretin of the highest order and there is absolutely no reasoning with him.

He thrives off peoples replies so best to just mute and ignore him and let him crawl back into his cave where he belongs.

Just be glad he isn't the one calling the shots!

Summed up in one, TJ, and you’re quite correct - I’m happy with my last response to his nonsense and there’s nothing more to say to the cretin. Now on to the football! OTBC

[Teemu’s right foot 53]

4 minutes ago, Well b back said:

Spot on.

No more replies from me.

Finally a result.

 

9 minutes ago, Tetteys Jig said:

Guys, best to ignore @Teemu’s right foot.

Absolute cretin of the highest order and there is absolutely no reasoning with him.

He thrives off peoples replies so best to just mute and ignore him and let him crawl back into his cave where he belongs.

Just be glad he isn't the one calling the shots!

Quite frankly I’d rather trust Edward scissor hands to shave my balls than trust what we’ve been told by the members of sage so far... 4000 deaths a day? How’s that fact checking going?? Have followed and read Michael Yeadons work and he very clearly is an expert in his field. Doesn’t it concern you that such experts are deliberately being discredited and silenced?

[keelansgrandad 6,678]

What expertise do you have to qualify someone as an expert?

[Teemu’s right foot 53]

36 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

What expertise do you have to qualify someone as an expert?

Former Chief scientific advisor for phfizer and Vice President and owner of their own pharmaceutical company that they then sold would probably suffice...

Edited November 28, 2020 by Teemu’s right foot

[Indy 3,014]

The only thing I partially agree with is the death numbers being reported, it’s noticeable that anyone who might pass wit( underlying issues is lumped into the 28 day with Covid figures, that I don’t like as it hides true figures.

The rest is all very laughable, although I don’t agree with the government’s tier system being lumped as they have been into each county and this rule of six should have been indoors or outdoors with sensible precautions, as being this rigid will have an adverse effect and there will be more people this time who are lockdown out will break the rules.

But it’s so important that people take responsibility and if they do have people round keep your distance, use hygiene products to minimise transfer and whipe down surfaces. Not that I condone breaking the rules but they will this month!
 

good job that the vaccines are starting to look like being rolled out soon and those vulnerable might get first part vaccines pre Christmas.

[Alex Moss 2,165]

55 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

What expertise do you have to qualify someone as an expert?

From his response, I don’t think he actually read your question, KG. Unless we’ve been having a disagreement with the Former Chief Scientific Advisor of Pfizer of course...

[SwindonCanary 450]

2 hours ago, Well b back said:

That was in March. Completely disproven

It's in todays paper, so I put it up, there was no date on it. 

[Alex Moss 2,165]

14 minutes ago, Indy said:

The only thing I partially agree with is the death numbers being reported, it’s noticeable that anyone who might pass wit( underlying issues is lumped into the 28 day with Covid figures, that I don’t like as it hides true figures.

The rest is all very laughable, although I don’t agree with the government’s tier system being lumped as they have been into each county and this rule of six should have been indoors or outdoors with sensible precautions, as being this rigid will have an adverse effect and there will be more people this time who are lockdown out will break the rules.

But it’s so important that people take responsibility and if they do have people round keep your distance, use hygiene products to minimise transfer and whipe down surfaces. Not that I condone breaking the rules but they will this month!
 

good job that the vaccines are starting to look like being rolled out soon and those vulnerable might get first part vaccines pre Christmas.

I have to agree that there are a lot of slightly strange and sometimes baffling rulings in place at the moment, as well intentioned as it maybe. And the whole thing where you can only have a pint served with a substantial meal, as pubs now have to operate as restaurants or not open at all - pubs will soon figure out how to blag that one, if they haven’t already! I can see us back under lockdown just after Christmas, otherwise it’ll be interesting to see how they handle New Years Eve.

[Herman 8,974]

Oh for God's sake.

 

[keelansgrandad 6,678]

16 minutes ago, Alex Moss said:

From his response, I don’t think he actually read your question, KG. Unless we’ve been having a disagreement with the Former Chief Scientific Advisor of Pfizer of course...

I did wonder if his expertise stretched to understanding my post

[Well b back 2,941]

1 hour ago, Indy said:

The only thing I partially agree with is the death numbers being reported, it’s noticeable that anyone who might pass wit( underlying issues is lumped into the 28 day with Covid figures, that I don’t like as it hides true figures.

The rest is all very laughable, although I don’t agree with the government’s tier system being lumped as they have been into each county and this rule of six should have been indoors or outdoors with sensible precautions, as being this rigid will have an adverse effect and there will be more people this time who are lockdown out will break the rules.

But it’s so important that people take responsibility and if they do have people round keep your distance, use hygiene products to minimise transfer and whipe down surfaces. Not that I condone breaking the rules but they will this month!
 

good job that the vaccines are starting to look like being rolled out soon and those vulnerable might get first part vaccines pre Christmas.

8th / 9th / 10th of December regards vaccines if today’s reports are to be believed. 

[Well b back 2,941]

54 minutes ago, Herman said:

Oh for God's sake.

 

Why can’t they just leave it to the NHS and military, it’s not that theNHS have never done anything like it before. 

[Indy 3,014]

Just now, Well b back said:

Why can’t they just leave it to the NHS and military, it’s not that theNHS have never done anything like it before. 

Jobs for the elite, no doubt comes with a few million £ to use up!

[ricardo 6,668]

Yesterdays European.

Italy         28352 - 827

France    12459 - 581

Spain     8348 - 294

Germany  22018 - 405

 

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Van wink 2,994]

Germany struggling to live up to their excellent response in the first wave

[ricardo 6,668]

19 minutes ago, Van wink said:

Germany struggling to live up to their excellent response in the first wave

They have a bit more dry tinder than the others thanks to doing well in March / April. Tis the season for respiratory illnesses as the weather gets colder.

Noticeable how the southern hemisphere countries are slowing down now that they are approaching their summer.

[sonyc 5,021]

30 minutes ago, Van wink said:

Germany struggling to live up to their excellent response in the first wave

Now, where is T when you need him

[ricardo 6,668]

5 minutes ago, sonyc said:

Now, where is T when you need him

They are now having the same problems with track and trace as everyone else once the numbers become too big.

[ricardo 6,668]

All indicators heading downwards.

[sonyc 5,021]

2 minutes ago, ricardo said:

They are now having the same problems with track and trace as everyone else once the numbers become too big.

They have secured 300m vaccine doses from various sources and expect to roll out mid December. 

 

All eyes now for us (over 80 expected to be amongst first from 7th to 10th December). Hope we hear the final hurdle is jumped via the regulators this week.

[sonyc 5,021]

1 minute ago, ricardo said:

All indicators heading downwards.

Still not where we are Ricardo. It is like we are going against the national trend grrrrrrrr. Risen again today but about level on where we were a month ago.