CANARYKING 608 Posted November 27, 2020 36 minutes ago, sonyc said: And now to add to my post about not hugging, we shouldn't play board games either. Probably not...in answer to your last question Surly playing cards should also be discouraged Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,678 Posted November 27, 2020 Research into a cure for cancer has been going on for as long as I can remember. We still don't have one. And there is more than one cancer. Science knew there was a vaccine for Covid but the time to develop it was the problem. So the money that has been spent is not in any way all on developing a vaccine. Its about propping up the economy. The comparison between Cancer and Covid is yet another red herring by those wishing to ignore a killer virus. A virus that exists concurrently as every other disease. I published an anecdote on another thread but it is worth repeating here. Two doctors were discussing Covid "What is the prognosis for Covid?" asked one. " I don't know" said the other "I'm not a journalist" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,021 Posted November 27, 2020 Just now, CANARYKING said: Surly playing cards should also be discouraged Aye, good call.....but Charades could be achieved through proper social distancing protocols? Maybe Xmas can be saved? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark .Y. 337 Posted November 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, ricardo said: They are already falling and are down by 8.3% over the last 7 days. 11 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said: Its a numbers game but two doses 3 weeks apart. I doubt many of even the most vulnerable will be fully immunised by Christmas. Perhaps by January after the holiday ? I get that they are falling now, but I think that we need that security of the vaccination of the elderly to give us that more comfortable feeling. I genuinely think that by around mid-January we will all feel a lot more comfortable about it. Once the vulnerable are being vaccinated the hospital admissions should rapidly fall. It is clear that it is going to be a major exercise to get it sorted but, just my opinion, I am confident. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,678 Posted November 27, 2020 I wonder if it might be prudent to carry out care home vaccinations actually in the care home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted November 27, 2020 39 minutes ago, Teemu’s right foot said: But as you said cancer is “silly” and yesterday’s news, it’s all about covid... We already knew you were full of bullshoite, but care to show me where I made the statement ‘cancer is silly’? I will of course be waiting a very long time indeed because you’ve got yourself so hung up by your tiny boll0x that you’re now having to resort to completely made up disingenuous quotes to back yourself out of your hole Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,021 Posted November 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, Mark .Y. said: I get that they are falling now, but I think that we need that security of the vaccination of the elderly to give us that more comfortable feeling. I genuinely think that by around mid-January we will all feel a lot more comfortable about it. Once the vulnerable are being vaccinated the hospital admissions should rapidly fall. It is clear that it is going to be a major exercise to get it sorted but, just my opinion, I am confident. I'm hoping for January too for the most vulnerable Mark. Yetr at least in Tier 3 as @Well b back mentioned in a previous post, people may be able to access community (targeted?) testing that will give some transitional comfort (about ourselves and potential risk to others). Just have to hope that for all the good words, it is deliverable! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 2,941 Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, sonyc said: I'm hoping for January too for the most vulnerable Mark. Yetr at least in Tier 3 as @Well b back mentioned in a previous post, people may be able to access community (targeted?) testing that will give some transitional comfort (about ourselves and potential risk to others). Just have to hope that for all the good words, it is deliverable! Yes I am hoping for community testing, will make a hugely difficult decision so much easier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teemu’s right foot 53 Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) Edited November 27, 2020 by Teemu’s right foot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 2,941 Posted November 27, 2020 Who would be stupid enough to get a PCR test if you are asymptotic in the UK. You can’t even book a test ( unless you lie ) if you do not have symptoms. He refers to the Oxford / City College paper, which I put on here the last time you brought this up ( bizarrely you were telling us Liverpool testing was rubbish ). I suppose he is right it says if you are asymptotic it only picks up 76.8% of positives. When you have symptoms it is 95%+ accurate. When I put this paper up you said ‘ why should we believe the Oxford data ‘ when they said the test was 99.62% accurate. You are now saying we must read this. Why is it true now but wasn’t when I shew you how accurate tests were, in fact you called me a ‘ tool ‘ for believing the report. You even said you wouldn’t get a lateral flow test and was quite rude when I suggested they were 99.62% accurate. This is the same guy who had posts taken down because he doctored a Danish published paper on masks. At least try to remember what you have previously posted. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 8,972 Posted November 28, 2020 This is where utter stupidity gets you. The irony of the Herman Cain account being used on this shouldn't be lost either. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 450 Posted November 28, 2020 Interesting story about smokers in France not catching the virus so easily... Maybe the tar leaves a protective layer in the lungs after all?"More likely that strangers give at least 2m between themselves and secondhand smoke ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teemu’s right foot 53 Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) The world has lost its mind I await the warning of pulling a cracker... sage televised news announcement today on recommendation to who should hold the remote control on Xmas day. Could cause domestic arguments this one... Edited November 28, 2020 by Teemu’s right foot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted November 28, 2020 9 hours ago, Well b back said: Who would be stupid enough to get a PCR test if you are asymptotic in the UK. You can’t even book a test ( unless you lie ) if you do not have symptoms. He refers to the Oxford / City College paper, which I put on here the last time you brought this up ( bizarrely you were telling us Liverpool testing was rubbish ). I suppose he is right it says if you are asymptotic it only picks up 76.8% of positives. When you have symptoms it is 95%+ accurate. When I put this paper up you said ‘ why should we believe the Oxford data ‘ when they said the test was 99.62% accurate. You are now saying we must read this. Why is it true now but wasn’t when I shew you how accurate tests were, in fact you called me a ‘ tool ‘ for believing the report. You even said you wouldn’t get a lateral flow test and was quite rude when I suggested they were 99.62% accurate. This is the same guy who had posts taken down because he doctored a Danish published paper on masks. At least try to remember what you have previously posted. Apart from the fact he’s been called out for making up complete bullsh0ite and conveniently not been able disprove it when challenged (he likes to go a bit ‘quiet’ I’ve noticed ), there is an old saying that you can’t argue with stupid and this is as good a case example of that as you will see, WBB! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teemu’s right foot 53 Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Alex Moss said: Apart from the fact he’s been called out for making up complete bullsh0ite and conveniently not been able disprove it when challenged (he likes to go a bit ‘quiet’ I’ve noticed ), there is an old saying that you can’t argue with stupid and this is as good a case example of that as you will see, WBB! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome You think that someone who wants to hug a loved one is “prepared to kill them” and I’m the stupid one.... I fear when this is over you may never be allowed back out Alex Edited November 28, 2020 by Teemu’s right foot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 8,972 Posted November 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Teemu’s right foot said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 2,941 Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said: Interesting story about smokers in France not catching the virus so easily... Maybe the tar leaves a protective layer in the lungs after all?"More likely that strangers give at least 2m between themselves and secondhand smoke ! That was in March. Completely disproven Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teemu’s right foot 53 Posted November 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, Herman said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 8,972 Posted November 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Teemu’s right foot said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makes_No_Sense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teemu’s right foot 53 Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Herman said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makes_No_Sense Oh it does. From the little time I’ve spent posting on here you have come across as the absolute cliche virtue signaller. I absolutely guarantee you have attended at least one March for a cause in the last year Edited November 28, 2020 by Teemu’s right foot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 2,941 Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Teemu’s right foot said: The world has lost its mind I await the warning of pulling a cracker... sage televised news announcement today on recommendation to who should hold the remote control on Xmas day. Could cause domestic arguments this one... The advice is quite mild compared to the rest of the world. Just like around 80% of the public the scientists think this is madness. You are calling them out for trying to save some lives and I would have thought you supported save another lockdown in January. In this instance we have a real live experiment going on with Thanksgiving this weekend. The advise in America is to not do it, if you do eat outside and if you are inside you should wear a mask. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/holidays.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 2,941 Posted November 28, 2020 55 minutes ago, Alex Moss said: Apart from the fact he’s been called out for making up complete bullsh0ite and conveniently not been able disprove it when challenged (he likes to go a bit ‘quiet’ I’ve noticed ), there is an old saying that you can’t argue with stupid and this is as good a case example of that as you will see, WBB! Hi Alex Theres another bit that he does not get in this. He is saying Covid doesn’t exist in most cases and it’s really pneumonia and flu. He doesn’t quite grasp that there is still no proven treatment for Covid and up until July there wasn’t even a treatment at all. People were kept alive the best possible on ventilators and trying different potions. Basically they were not therefore treated as nothing could be done. With pneumonia and flu of course there are proven treatments, they don’t always work, but there are treatments. By saying they really had pneumonia and flu, he is saying those diagnosed Covid were left to die by doctors, effectively doctors have blood on their hands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 2,941 Posted November 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, Teemu’s right foot said: Oh it does. From the little time I’ve spent posting on here you have come across as the absolute cliche virtue signaller https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-conspiracy-theories-bill-gates-hoax-vaccine-5g-qanon-protest-piers-corbyn-b575326.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teemu’s right foot 53 Posted November 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Well b back said: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-conspiracy-theories-bill-gates-hoax-vaccine-5g-qanon-protest-piers-corbyn-b575326.html I’ve never claimed anything of the kind but you crack on... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 2,941 Posted November 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Teemu’s right foot said: I’ve never claimed anything of the kind but you crack on... Lol Have you changed your opinion again. You tell us there is no evidence masks work. Yesterday you put up a report saying Covid was pneumonia and flu. You told us social distancing should not apply at Christmas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teemu’s right foot 53 Posted November 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Well b back said: Lol Have you changed your opinion again. You tell us there is no evidence masks work. Yesterday you put up a report saying Covid was pneumonia and flu. You told us social distancing should not apply at Christmas. Find a post where I have ever said any of these conspiracy theories? All you will find is posts where I’ve provided evidence of the idea behind the great reset. You yourself have then made the leap to link that with the conspiracy theories that people have around that idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 2,941 Posted November 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Teemu’s right foot said: Find a post where I have ever said any of these conspiracy theories? All you will find is posts where I’ve provided evidence of the idea behind the great reset. You yourself have then made the leap to link that with the conspiracy theories that people have around that idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 2,941 Posted November 28, 2020 It says people with Covid really have pneumonia and flu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teemu’s right foot 53 Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Well b back said: You’re hilarious. A paper by scientists is now considered conspiracy theories... I honestly fear for you when this is over as you’re so consumed by it you may not be able to make that transition back into normality Edited November 28, 2020 by Teemu’s right foot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teemu’s right foot 53 Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) Look at these mad conspiracy theorists... Clare Craig BM BCh FRCPath Jonathan Engler MBChB LLB Mike Yeadon BSc Hons (Biochem-tox) PhD Christian McNeill LL.B and Dip LP Edited November 28, 2020 by Teemu’s right foot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
