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5 minutes ago, Well b back said:

Hi Ricardo

Obviously these figures are from the ONS. On the Midlands news last night one hospital the QE in Birmingham was saying they now have 80 admissions, with 9 already in ICU. They were clearly concerned and went as far as saying 2 of those in icu were in their 20s with no underlying conditions. They were also deeply concerned about the number of people walking into A & E with coronavirus symptoms. They also mentioned they expected deaths to start occurring in 2 weeks.

As I remarked earlier, time will tell.

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21 minutes ago, Well b back said:

Hi Ricardo

Obviously these figures are from the ONS. On the Midlands news last night one hospital the QE in Birmingham was saying they now have 80 admissions, with 9 already in ICU. They were clearly concerned and went as far as saying 2 of those in icu were in their 20s with no underlying conditions. They were also deeply concerned about the number of people walking into A & E with coronavirus symptoms. They also mentioned they expected deaths to start occurring in 2 weeks.

Didnt watch the midlands news, but everything i can see in writing online says all in icu at QE aged between 40 and 75, and i can’t see if they had pre-existing conditions or not - nobody in their 20s in icu. Articles also says only 32 have been admitted in the last fortnight, the remainder have been in longer (it doesn’t say how long but I’m aware of at least two people in another hospital in the north east who have been in for over 4 months by way of example...).

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1 hour ago, Barbe bleu said:

Net admissions of 21 I would guess.  I imagine some people got to leave hospital in the preferred manner.

presumably it would count people who "leave" hospital out of both doors...

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No-one should have to travel more than 75 miles (presumably in each direction) for a test says Hancock.

Presumably eye tests are exempt.

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Very much on a plateau for last several days

Latest UK Numbers  3330 - 5

Inpatients  884  same as yesterday

 

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Yesterdays European. (incomplete)

Italy   1501 - 6

France 10562 - 17

Spain   ?

Germany  821  - 4

Lots more positives in France in recent days, now ahead of UK in 13th place

A major uptick in fatalities ought to be noticeable by now if the second wavers are correct.

 

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1 hour ago, ricardo said:

Very much on a plateau for last several days

Latest UK Numbers  3330 - 5

Inpatients  884  same as yesterday

 

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Yesterdays European. (incomplete)

Italy   1501 - 6

France 10562 - 17

Spain   ?

Germany  821  - 4

Lots more positives in France in recent days, now ahead of UK in 13th place

A major uptick in fatalities ought to be noticeable by now if the second wavers are correct.

 

Not got Spain’s figures there, but good to see France’s deaths figures decreasing. Seem to jump about a bit (presume you’re doing daily rather than seven day rolling in these?) but certainly not exploding as you’d expect to see based on the increase in positive tests (which has been going on in France and Spain for ages now).

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1 hour ago, ricardo said:

Very much on a plateau for last several days

Latest UK Numbers  3330 - 5

Inpatients  884  same as yesterday

 

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Yesterdays European. (incomplete)

Italy   1501 - 6

France 10562 - 17

Spain   ?

Germany  821  - 4

Lots more positives in France in recent days, now ahead of UK in 13th place

A major uptick in fatalities ought to be noticeable by now if the second wavers are correct.

 

I don't believe there will be deaths like before unless this thing morphs. And it doesn't appear to have done so to any great degree.

But until the real deal vaccine, people like yourself and many others will have to be wary.

My Grandson who lives with us had a test, negative, but while he was waiting, we cut right back on mixing with people etc. We don't want to be responsible for passing it on.

Every new day, people are diagnosed with cancer, heart disease etc and the vulnerable in that group are at risk. But I don't believe care homes will see anywhere near the mortality rates like before.

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34 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

I don't believe there will be deaths like before unless this thing morphs. And it doesn't appear to have done so to any great degree.

But until the real deal vaccine, people like yourself and many others will have to be wary.

My Grandson who lives with us had a test, negative, but while he was waiting, we cut right back on mixing with people etc. We don't want to be responsible for passing it on.

Every new day, people are diagnosed with cancer, heart disease etc and the vulnerable in that group are at risk. But I don't believe care homes will see anywhere near the mortality rates like before.

Yes I tend to agree. 

I went to our local on Friday lunchtime for the first time since March. Only two allowed inside to order, socially distanced tables outside. Drinks served in bottles or disposable containers. All food served with wooden plates and cutlery. I think if you are sensible you can still live your life and be safe.

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Here's a handy tip. If you want to have a big party with lots of relatives and friends just tell them to bring their shotguns.
😀

NEW: Boris Johnson's Rule Of 6 has a controversial exemption - for grouse shooting and similar field sports. Upto 30 people can gather to hunt with guns cos classed as a licensed outdoor sport.

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5 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said:

Here's a handy tip. If you want to have a big party with lots of relatives and friends just tell them to bring their shotguns.
😀

NEW: Boris Johnson's Rule Of 6 has a controversial exemption - for grouse shooting and similar field sports. Upto 30 people can gather to hunt with guns cos classed as a licensed outdoor sport.

Yep. All the hunt folk on this forum can fill their boots....

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/5-bits-rule-six-small-22679161?

Nice to keep the social classes quite separate. Equality in Britain and all that. Levelling up.

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Now positives drop back to just over 1%

Latest UK Numbers  2621 - 9

Inpatients  884  no change

 

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Yesterdays European. (incomplete)

Italy   1458 - 7

France 7183 - 6

Spain   ? again no reports

Germany  752 - 1

still no sign of an exponential second wave anywhere

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2 minutes ago, ricardo said:

Now positives drop back to just over 1%

Latest UK Numbers  2621 - 9

Inpatients  884  no change

 

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Yesterdays European. (incomplete)

Italy   1458 - 7

France 7183 - 6

Spain   ? again no reports

Germany  752 - 1

still no sign of an exponential second wave anywhere

When you say ‘incomplete’ here, does that mean Spain’s are missing or are all incomplete?
 

France’s seems a pretty big drop in deaths and cases.

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Just now, Aggy said:

When you say ‘incomplete’ here, does that mean Spain’s are missing or are all incomplete?
 

France’s seems a pretty big drop in deaths and cases.

Also, I don’t even read/watch the news anymore Ricardo, I just log on here around tea time for your daily update!

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8 minutes ago, Aggy said:

When you say ‘incomplete’ here, does that mean Spain’s are missing or are all incomplete?
 

France’s seems a pretty big drop in deaths and cases.

Haven't found anything from Spain for Sat or Sun.

The others are complete.

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8 minutes ago, Aggy said:

Also, I don’t even read/watch the news anymore Ricardo, I just log on here around tea time for your daily update!

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27 minutes ago, Aggy said:

Also, I don’t even read/watch the news anymore Ricardo, I just log on here around tea time for your daily update!

I used to log in every two weeks or so to read the match report. I now do so daily to read the figures. Except an hour or so earlier 😉

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6 minutes ago, sonyc said:

I used to log in every two weeks or so to read the match report. I now do so daily to read the figures. Except an hour or so earlier 😉

Sorry about the match reports. Virus willing they will resume at some stage in the not too distant future. From all that I am reading and seeing on the internet regarding the epidemic, I am becoming more and more confident that we will be back at CR some time this season.

Mrs R and I had a pleasant trip up to North Norfolk today (socially distanced of course). Coffee at Walsingham, lunch at Hunstanton and a drive through quiet country roads. A glorious sunny September day and a joy to be out in this beautiful county of ours. As our most famous son remarked, "I am a Norfolk man and glory in being so."👍

Spot on Horatio.

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1 minute ago, ricardo said:

Sorry about the match reports. Virus willing they will resume at some stage in the not too distant future. From all that I am reading and seeing on the internet regarding the epidemic, I am becoming more and more confident that we will be back at CR some time this season.

Mrs R and I had a pleasant trip up to North Norfolk today (socially distanced of course). Coffee at Walsingham, lunch at Hunstanton and a drive through quiet country roads. A glorious sunny September day and a joy to be out in this beautiful county of ours. As our most famous son remarked, "I am a Norfolk man and glory in being so."👍

Spot on Horatio.

Lovely walk and a pint at the Gin Trap yesterday, a stroll through Dersingham Bog today, in my waders 😉

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2 minutes ago, Van wink said:

Lovely walk and a pint at the Gin Trap yesterday, a stroll through Dersingham Bog today, in my waders 😉

Drove past it on the way back this afternoon. Mrs R tells me the food has a good reputation but have never tried it yet.

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25 minutes ago, ricardo said:

Drove past it on the way back this afternoon. Mrs R tells me the food has a good reputation but have never tried it yet.

No neither have we but a very convenient location for a half way round pint on a circular walk😀

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36 minutes ago, ricardo said:

Sorry about the match reports. Virus willing they will resume at some stage in the not too distant future. From all that I am reading and seeing on the internet regarding the epidemic, I am becoming more and more confident that we will be back at CR some time this season.

Mrs R and I had a pleasant trip up to North Norfolk today (socially distanced of course). Coffee at Walsingham, lunch at Hunstanton and a drive through quiet country roads. A glorious sunny September day and a joy to be out in this beautiful county of ours. As our most famous son remarked, "I am a Norfolk man and glory in being so."👍

Spot on Horatio.

You could try a virtual report of course. Not the same as being at the ground ....as well as an entirely different pre match ritual. It might be quite surreal.

Spent many years going to Old Hunstanton as used to live not far away. Sunny Hunny. 

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2 minutes ago, sonyc said:

You could try a virtual report of course.

 

I did give this some thought but dismissed it as a bit false.

I can't really start by saying I settled down in the armchair with a nice cup of tea and a biscuit and waited for IFollow to unfreeze itself, can I?😉

On reflection, nipping out for a wee would be a lot easier though.😉

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5 minutes ago, ricardo said:

I did give this some thought but dismissed it as a bit false.

I can't really start by saying I settled down in the armchair with a nice cup of tea and a biscuit and waited for IFollow to unfreeze itself, can I?😉

On reflection, nipping out for a wee would be a lot easier though.😉

You could start like that yes....a bit of impressionism never goes amiss. Get some training in for your chapters.

And you can always freeze live TV for the latter 😉

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2 hours ago, ricardo said:

Now positives drop back to just over 1%

Latest UK Numbers  2621 - 9

Inpatients  884  no change

 

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Yesterdays European. (incomplete)

Italy   1458 - 7

France 7183 - 6

Spain   ? again no reports

Germany  752 - 1

still no sign of an exponential second wave anywhere

I think we currently have to be cautios about our test numbers.

I belive we have 200,000 test in backlog and others can't get a test when they need one. Test are also taking days to be processed and results returned.

Upshot is it' highly likely we are undereporting our current prevalence 

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2 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said:

I think we currently have to be cautios about our test numbers.

I belive we have 200,000 test in backlog and others can't get a test when they need one. Test are also taking days to be processed and results returned.

Upshot is it' highly likely we are undereporting our current prevalence 

Indeed, the Zoe app has today’s figures at 4200 which I suspect is a more accurate reflection. Seeing the recent figures for age distribution of positive tests, no doubt Increased hospital admissions will showing in a week or two.

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3 minutes ago, Van wink said:

Indeed, the Zoe app has today’s figures at 4200 which I suspect is a more accurate reflection. Seeing the recent figures for age distribution of positive tests, no doubt Increased hospital admissions will showing in a week or two.

I also suspect these test figures and their 'issues'  where responsible for the sudden jump a week ago by 50% or whatever. At the time I wondered if it was a blip but it stayed all but static for days. I think the jump was unnatural and more like test 'noise' dominating an upward curve. Expect another sudden jump which will shock when the backlog gets reported etc.

I see no reason for wishful thinking and I suspect the powers that be know it.

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