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38 minutes ago, sonyc said:

Yes, it can be overdone, would agree. One surprising thing is that Starmer has been quite reserved in all of this, restrained in fact. Possibly he has rather an open goal. 

The more I hear of BJ the less I'm convinced by his thinking process actually (because he sounds chaotic and rambling) and the more I start to wonder just how important Cummings is (a lot). It's clear Cummings has a keen mind and is certainly no fool.

 

I think Starmer is doing the right thing by not party-politicizing this. As to BoJo, he has always been a hollow  man who conned the gullible into thinking he was clever because he knew a few over-used Latin tags. And whether by luck or judgment Labour have chosen the perfect opponent in Starmer, whose dullness looks increasingly like a virtue compared to Johnson’s flippancy, and whose forensic skills will quietly eviscerate Johnson in Parliament.

Cummings has a keen mind, and is certainly sharper than Johnson, but that hasn’t stopped him being a fool over Durhamgate. There may be more to come out, but even on the basis of what is known to be true he has been very stupid. Probably through arrogance, and particularly thinking he would be too smart to get caught out by mere hacks in the media. Hence he and his wife writing pieces for The Spectator that were lies by omission. You would  have to be very dumb to assume the truth would not come out.

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48 minutes ago, Van wink said:

8000

No mate there were 1887 new cases

2013 the day before

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7 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

I think Starmer is doing the right thing by not party-politicizing this. As to BoJo, he has always been a hollow  man who conned the gullible into thinking he was clever because he knew a few over-used Latin tags. And whether by luck or judgment Labour have chosen the perfect opponent in Starmer, whose dullness looks increasingly like a virtue compared to Johnson’s flippancy, and whose forensic skills will quietly eviscerate Johnson in Parliament.

Cummings has a keen mind, and is certainly sharper than Johnson, but that hasn’t stopped him being a fool over Durhamgate. There may be more to come out, but even on the basis of what is known to be true he has been very stupid. Probably through arrogance, and particularly thinking he would be too smart to get caught out by mere hacks in the media. Hence he and his wife writing pieces for The Spectator that were lies by omission. You would  have to be very dumb to assume the truth would not come out.

Too early to call my friend, the MSM have not come out of this smelling of roses.

Maybe you win, maybe you went way over the top and the backlash will consume you.

Don't forget ,events, quite often don't follow logic :)

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3 minutes ago, Bagster said:

Too early to call my friend, the MSM have not come out of this smelling of roses.

Maybe you win, maybe you went way over the top and the backlash will consume you.

Don't forget ,events quite often don't follow logic :)

Not with that lot at the helm.

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4 minutes ago, Bagster said:

Too early to call my friend, the MSM have not come out of this smelling of roses.

Maybe you win, maybe you went way over the top and the backlash will consume you.

Don't forget ,events, quite often don't follow logic :)

Three gnomic lines. It could be a haiku except instead of five, seven and five syllables you’ve crammed in 22, 21 and 13.

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2 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

Three gnomic lines. It could be a haiku except instead of five, seven and five syllables you’ve crammed in 22, 21 and 13.

Purple you are by far my favourite lefty

Only you could reply like that 😂

I literally have nothing !!

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18 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

I think Starmer is doing the right thing by not party-politicizing this. As to BoJo, he has always been a hollow  man who conned the gullible into thinking he was clever because he knew a few over-used Latin tags. And whether by luck or judgment Labour have chosen the perfect opponent in Starmer, whose dullness looks increasingly like a virtue compared to Johnson’s flippancy, and whose forensic skills will quietly eviscerate Johnson in Parliament.

Cummings has a keen mind, and is certainly sharper than Johnson, but that hasn’t stopped him being a fool over Durhamgate. There may be more to come out, but even on the basis of what is known to be true he has been very stupid. Probably through arrogance, and particularly thinking he would be too smart to get caught out by mere hacks in the media. Hence he and his wife writing pieces for The Spectator that were lies by omission. You would  have to be very dumb to assume the truth would not come out.

Starmer on the news tonight was straightforward. He would have sacked his advisor if he was PM (guess easy to say) but his reasoning was that the government had wasted a week and we really needed to be making progress on test, track, trace. As such #CumGate (as it's been referred to on twitter) has been a distraction. The focus, you got the impression, was on the business in hand. He wasn't engaging in a crude form of points scoring. Such a contrast to BJ.

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14 minutes ago, Bagster said:

Purple you are by far my favourite lefty

Only you could reply like that 😂

I literally have nothing !!

La reve de Bagster,

Comme une chanson de Piaf,

La vie en Pourpre.

5/7/5.

 

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7 minutes ago, sonyc said:

Starmer on the news tonight was straightforward. He would have sacked his advisor if he was PM (guess easy to say) but his reasoning was that the government had wasted a week and we really needed to be making progress on test, track, trace. As such #CumGate (as it's been referred to on twitter) has been a distraction. The focus, you got the impression, was on the business in hand. He wasn't engaging in a crude form of points scoring. Such a contrast to BJ.

Class through  true intelligence is always more impressive than class through heritage.

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10 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

La reve de Bagster,

Comme une chanson de Piaf,

La vie en Pourpre.

5/7/5.

 

All posts in 575 mode would lead to better conversation and require lots of forethought. Concise pieces. Maybe you've hit on a new thing Purple. A form of Occam's Razor. 

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12 minutes ago, sonyc said:

All posts in 575 mode would lead to better conversation and require lots of forethought. Concise pieces. Maybe you've hit on a new thing Purple. A form of Occam's Razor. 

Ah, Occams razor,

Only on social med-ia

Will you read these words

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Elsewhere it is 'shill',

and, yes, 'whataboutery'.

Not heard in real life

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1 hour ago, sonyc said:

Lockdown up north has effectively been over for about 2 weeks.

Social distancing has eased off and the roads are as packed as ever they were.

It's like there is no pandemic. Folk also tell me that this Cummings thing has made them think "f this"

Still social distancing on The Wirral.

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Oh guys, you're going to love this video

That will cheer people right up

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11 minutes ago, sonyc said:

All posts in 575 mode would lead to better conversation and require lots of forethought. Concise pieces. Maybe you've hit on a new thing Purple. A form of Occam's Razor. 

I wish that I knew

How to express my thoughts that way

As I tend to elaboration

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2 minutes ago, Mr Angry said:

Still social distancing on The Wirral.

Good thing. Can't seem to cross a b***dy road here walking the dog. 

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3 minutes ago, Surfer said:

I wish that I knew

How to express my thoughts that way

As I tend to elaboration

Run out of reactions haha. 

Imagine a thread like this (needing to be one on its own)?

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Can we now talk 'bout

the shops and schools that are open

from the first of june?

 

The talk of Cummings

has gone on for five long days.

Yes, time for a change

 

South america

For now the epicentre?

Low tests hide the truth?

 

Bbq at mine

Whilst infection  is so high?

Good idea or no?

 

So much more to talk-

About, so can we not go-

Over this old ground?

 

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Alas, it's time now

For me, bedtime to venture

Sleeping peaceful(ly)

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UK Test and Trace 

Advanced from its June release 

Cannot yet log on 

 

 

Track and Trace.jpg

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5 hours ago, BigFish said:

The UK has registered 59,537 more deaths than usual since the week ending March 20, indicating that the virus has directly or indirectly killed 891 people per million.

You really are a nasty individual, so 60,000 deaths are worth a quibble on a football messageboard and it is ok because it is less than cancer. Many of these deaths are directly attributable to failings by this government and it is clear that the situation is not under control. The government has failed and people have paid for this with their lives.

Pointing out the perspective that covid-19 deaths are at a much lower rate per capita than cancer deaths for example does not make me a nasty person. It does not, of course, fit with your leftie point scoring bashing of the government. If you are really wanting to wear your sanctimonious look how caring I am on your sleeve why are you not raising the roof over causes of death far exceeding covid-19 that occur EVERY year? 

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3 hours ago, ricardo said:

No mate there were 1887 new cases

2013 the day before

Looking at data from 22nd👍

Too much noise on this thread.

More focus on virus required.

 

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6 hours ago, Mr Angry said:

Still social distancing on The Wirral.

A friend of a friend 

Moved to the Wirral 

Bought a three bed house

For the sum of ****all. 

 

Shakespeare eat your heart out. 

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Daily Star has a good cover again. The Chuckle Brothers. 

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13 hours ago, Yellow Fever said:

S. Korea.

Re-imposed lock down.

2nd wave anybody ?

 

13 hours ago, Aggy said:

Is it “lockdown”? Only thing I’ve read said museums and parks were closing again, not that people were being forced to stay indoors again.

Schools have also closed around Seoul, but not across the whole country.

BBC says on Thursday there were 79 new cases within 24 hours in South Korea. 

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9 hours ago, Aggy said:

I live in Manchester and I’ve hardly seen any difference around me, so I’m not sure that’s true. “The north” is quite big. I dare say there are places in “the south” where people are doing what they want as well. It doesn’t mean everybody who lives north of Birmingham has just gone for a free for all group hug this afternoon.

Ah, a plastic, eh ???

Just thought I'd drop that in as a reminder of the way the forum used to be  😂

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There has been a gradual pick up in Norwich but still a long way short of anything like normal.

A report in the EDP this morning says Norwich has had the 3rd lowest death rate in the country, ranked by local authority area. 10.7 per 100k. 

Kings Lynn and West Norfolk by far the worst in the region with 77.9 per 100k.

So a one in ten thousand chance if you live in the City.

 

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5 minutes ago, ricardo said:

There has been a gradual pick up in Norwich but still a long way short of anything like normal.

A report in the EDP this morning says Norwich has had the 3rd lowest death rate in the country, ranked by local authority area. 10.7 per 100k. 

Kings Lynn and West Norfolk by far the worst in the region with 77.9 per 100k.

So a one in ten thousand chance if you live in the City.

 

Patrick Valance reported over 7000 new infections in England yesterday I believe, where are you getting your much lower figures from Ricardo or are we talking at cross purposes, maybe you refer to confirmed cases whereas the higher figure is based on ONS survey data plus.

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