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12 minutes ago, Well b back said:

Some of you may be interested ( just in case mass testing is on the agenda tomorrow ) in the actual research and papers to be put forward by those evaluating the actual tests, Liverpool was an excellent experiment. They believe mass testing may well reduce transmission by 90 %. 
https://www.research.ox.ac.uk/Article/2020-11-11-oxford-university-and-phe-confirm-lateral-flow-tests-show-high-specificity-and-are-effective-at-identifying-most-individuals-who-are-infectious

0.32% is certainly a very low false positive rate. No wonder Hancock intimated that more mass testing might be in order ahead.

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4 hours ago, Well b back said:

Could you imagine being in the ground for the promotion party, or the first game with crowds the playoff final and we are in it ( would rather go up automatically but what an occasion if that happened ).

Hopefully Oxford will have positive results soon then the spring is really a reality, if it’s just Pfizer afraid it will be the summer.

I was thinking about this after the result yesterday, the last time I saw us play at FCR we were in the Premier League, I was wondering if the next time I see us play at FCR we will also be in the Prem. 😁

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1 hour ago, sonyc said:

0.32% is certainly a very low false positive rate. No wonder Hancock intimated that more mass testing might be in order ahead.

It’s extremely low, if this is all people have to moan about then they really are scraping the barrel.

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2 minutes ago, Van wink said:

I was thinking about this after the result yesterday, the last time I saw us play at FCR we were in the Premier League, I was wondering if the next time I see us play at FCR we will also be in the Prem. 😁

Never thought of that. I was at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, penalties included, then yes FCR Leicester. We were on a roll lol

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5 minutes ago, Teemu’s right foot said:

 

What’s the report got to do with this ? Do you read them before you challenge anything ? As it’s a peer reviewed paper it even explains how they narrow 6 tests down to 2. It will stop upto 90% of transmissions by testing with the new test. 

You are challenging an Oxford, City of London and those named on the proposed paper, paper. 
 

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Yet another different expert said today that the masses would be unlikely to receive the vaccine before the summer.

Testing could have been a doddle and takes a minute. Vaccination isn't going to take place in the car park of Truro Young Farmers Club as both mine did.

So while it is good news that it appears we have one or two that are very promising, I wouldn't go booking a holiday in May on the assumption we will all be protected.

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27 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

Yet another different expert said today that the masses would be unlikely to receive the vaccine before the summer.

Testing could have been a doddle and takes a minute. Vaccination isn't going to take place in the car park of Truro Young Farmers Club as both mine did.

So while it is good news that it appears we have one or two that are very promising, I wouldn't go booking a holiday in May on the assumption we will all be protected.

It really does depend on Oxford efficacy results. If it is Pfizer only with a small amount of Moderna the summer would be good going. Cost as well is big if the reports are right, Moderna will cost the U.K. £40 per dose, Pfizer £20 and Oxford £3, so ranging from £80 to £6 per person.

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1 hour ago, ricardo said:

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According to the Government site, 141 previous deaths have been added to todays totals.

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Yesterdays European.

Italy         34767 - 692

France    17881 - 253

Spain     

Germany  16612 163

 

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Not improving locally, I suspect that even though the level of local infection is relatively low compared with national figures, plus the fact that it appears to be heading in the wrong direction atm, certainly in the East as a whole,we may see quite stringent post lockdown constraints in Norfolk.

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55 minutes ago, Well b back said:

Project reset, mask wearing, ect ect. possibly fake news ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55017002

certainly not fake news. That bbc article is a nonsense. A small amount of research will show that the idea of a reset has been spoken about long before this pandemic had started  and the wef are very open about pushing for that reset, the book covid 19, the great reset is on sale for £7.99 on Amazon if you’re interested... 

random post I found on Twitter but yeah I agree, he does look like a Bond villain!

 

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14 minutes ago, Well b back said:

I thought you were putting some of this stuff up to wind people up but I really am beginning to think you believe it lol 

I’m putting it up because it’s out there and being openly spoken about. Hardly fake news and conspiracy theory when the people pushing for it are so open about it, is it? 

 

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A pandemic+plenty of spare time/boredom+financial worries+the internet= masses of conspiracy theories.

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2 minutes ago, Herman said:

A pandemic+plenty of spare time/boredom+financial worries+the internet= masses of conspiracy theories.

I know. People don’t realise what their fun results in. A doctor here says how they get abuse because of these people. It’s shocking that our doctors and nurses really do receive abuse. I am ashamed.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/covid-ward-consultants-powerful-message-19317560

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4 minutes ago, Herman said:

A pandemic+plenty of spare time/boredom+financial worries+the internet= masses of conspiracy theories.

That and it actually coming direct from the horses mouth....Don’t let facts get in the way of some cheap attempted swiping though. Again, not a conspiracy theory when the main players are so openly talking about it...

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11 minutes ago, Well b back said:

I know. People don’t realise what their fun results in. A doctor here says how they get abuse because of these people. It’s shocking that our doctors and nurses really do receive abuse. I am ashamed.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/covid-ward-consultants-powerful-message-19317560

You don’t think just for one second that both a pandemic and the opportunity seen to push for such change could both actually be the truth? Why should it be one or the other? You’ve linked an article calling it fake news, I’ve clearly showed that it’s no such thing

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11 minutes ago, Well b back said:

I know. People don’t realise what their fun results in. A doctor here says how they get abuse because of these people. It’s shocking that our doctors and nurses really do receive abuse. I am ashamed.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/covid-ward-consultants-powerful-message-19317560

A very good article. We have heard all of those theories on here (dancing doctors). God knows what is going on on Fakebook.

 

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14 minutes ago, Herman said:

A very good article. We have heard all of those theories on here (dancing doctors). God knows what is going on on Fakebook.

 

It is.

I really didn’t know that people were using fake news to verbally attack doctors and nurses. It makes you ashamed.

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Teemu. 
I assume your user name associates your name with Teemu Pukki, who I assume does not support the views you have and wouldn’t want his name associated with some of the things you put.

Could I respectfully suggest you change your user name to something more appropriate.

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33 minutes ago, Teemu’s right foot said:

You don’t think just for one second that both a pandemic and the opportunity seen to push for such change could both actually be the truth? Why should it be one or the other? You’ve linked an article calling it fake news, I’ve clearly showed that it’s no such thing

Yep you’ve clearly shown it. Those who have listened to the video will tell you you supported a chart, done by an 8 year old schoolboy who called himself Professor Pogo. You took him at his word I guess that it was a peer reviewed paper. 
Change your user name and stop insulting Teemu Pukki.

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9 minutes ago, Well b back said:

It is.

I really didn’t know that people were using fake news to verbally attack doctors and nurses. It makes you ashamed.

I did hear similar things happening in the States. But that is coming from a certain man and his followers and the deliberate spreading of fake information.. Over here I feel it is coming from mixed or weak messaging rather than anything too sinister. It is a deep shame that it is happening and I hope people stop and think a bit better.

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1 hour ago, Well b back said:

Yep you’ve clearly shown it. Those who have listened to the video will tell you you supported a chart, done by an 8 year old schoolboy who called himself Professor Pogo. You took him at his word I guess that it was a peer reviewed paper. 
Change your user name and stop insulting Teemu Pukki.

You don’t like to be proven wrong do you? You’ve linked me an article saying to quote you that ‘project reset’ is fake news. I’ve linked a book by the head of the wef titled covid 19, the great reset and tweets from the wef titled ‘the great reset’. it’s very much out in the open. If anything comes from it is anyone’s guess, if I believe it is irrelevant but the very fact is that it’s an idea that is out in the open and not at all ‘fake news’. you don’t like the facts getting in the way of your attempts at point scoring, that’s not my problem. Oh and also the theme for the 2021 world economic forum in Davos is titled “the great reset” but yeah, fake news and conspiracy theory....
 

And just to hammer home the point and the facts here is another one 

 

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Let’s hope we see some real progress on the use of RNA technology spinning off from this pandemic helping with treatment of a wide range of conditions

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4 hours ago, keelansgrandad said:

Yet another different expert said today that the masses would be unlikely to receive the vaccine before the summer.

Testing could have been a doddle and takes a minute. Vaccination isn't going to take place in the car park of Truro Young Farmers Club as both mine did.

So while it is good news that it appears we have one or two that are very promising, I wouldn't go booking a holiday in May on the assumption we will all be protected.

Oh dear, I just booked a week in Cornwall in June!

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1 hour ago, Van wink said:

Let’s hope we see some real progress on the use of RNA technology spinning off from this pandemic helping with treatment of a wide range of conditions

Absolutely VW

They are beginning to think it can be used for so much. Did you see the links I put the other day ? Where they have tried one on somebody that had terminal cancer and the tumours are shrinking. So much further to go but without COVID, this would have been years down the line. Apparently they are hoping you can type in any sequence and then get your body to develop anti bodies.
Shame this thread can’t talk about these amazing developments.

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1 hour ago, Teemu’s right foot said:

You don’t like to be proven wrong do you? You’ve linked me an article saying to quote you that ‘project reset’ is fake news. I’ve linked a book by the head of the wef titled covid 19, the great reset and tweets from the wef titled ‘the great reset’. it’s very much out in the open. If anything comes from it is anyone’s guess, if I believe it is irrelevant but the very fact is that it’s an idea that is out in the open and not at all ‘fake news’. you don’t like the facts getting in the way of your attempts at point scoring, that’s not my problem. Oh and also the theme for the 2021 world economic forum in Davos is titled “the great reset” but yeah, fake news and conspiracy theory....
 

And just to hammer home the point and the facts here is another one 

 

So the facts are the World leaders have got together and all agreed that they need to kill off a number of people to stop the power of USA as apparently Trump isnt in on it. They pretended there are tests to make people believe there is a Pandemic ( which is really only flu ). Our doctors are letting a number of people die so they can introduce a fake vaccine ( sponsored by Bill Gates ) that will kill off millions so control can be taken back. 
Yep you’ve convinced me, I take it all back. 
 

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Justin Trudeau and the 'Great Reset'

We start with the revival of the baseless conspiracy theory, known as the 'Great Reset', which claims a group of world leaders orchestrated the pandemic to take control of the global economy. 

The conspiracy theory has its origins in a genuine plan entitled 'The Great Reset', drawn up by the World Economic Forum (WEF), the organisers of an annual conference for high-profile figures from politics and business, The plan explores how countries might recover from the economic damage caused by the coronavirus pandemic. 

Screenshot of a tweet that says "The Great Reset = The New World Order..." We added a "no evidence" label.

The WEF recovery plan has been interpreted as sinister, first by fringe conspiracy theory groups on social media, and then by prominent conservative commentators - prompting tens of thousands of interactions across Facebook and Twitter. 

It started trending globally on Twitter last week, when a video of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau at a UN meeting, saying the pandemic provided an opportunity for a "reset", went viral.

This sparked fresh claims from people, within Canada and further afield, that a cabal of global leaders is using the pandemic to introduce a range of damaging socialist and environmental policies. 

When asked about conspiracy theories at the end of the week, Mr Trudeau said: "I think we're in a time of anxiety, where people are looking for reasons for things that are happening to them... we're seeing a lot of people fall prey to disinformation."

A video from August, which now has close to three million views on YouTube, believes only Donald Trump can thwart this secret plot, which uses Covid-19 to bring the US economy to its knees so the "reset" can begin and people will be "begging" for vaccines. 

But the suggestion that politicians planned the virus, or are using it to destroy capitalism is wholly without evidence. 

So too is the notion that the World Economic Forum has the authority to tell other countries what to do, or that it is coordinating a secret cabal of world leaders.

 

 

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