keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted May 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, ricardo said: Indeed, amazing how people are interested in such minutiae. Politicians were no different back in the day its just that we didn't hear of any misdemeanours until they were long gone. John Major and Edwina Curry springs to mind and there was also much speculation about Wilson and Marcia Falkender. Of the three who recently got caught out I had more sympathy with Ferguson missing out on his nuptials. I supose if you put yourself in the public eye you have to live with the consequences. Don't forget we knew nothing about Boothby and Kray. We knew about Boothby and Supermac's wife but heterosexual was permitted. I remember George Brown asking Wilson what he wanted to do with the Homosexual Bill and Wilson said pay it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted May 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, ricardo said: Indeed, amazing how people are interested in such minutiae. A PM caught up in a cover up ...... is minutia ? You become more absurd with every post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barbe bleu 823 Posted May 23, 2020 Brexit, PMQS,Tony Blair,John smith, cummings and goings and what his wife said ,John major, WMDS,The Russia report Hard right nationalists are better in germany. End on a Monty python reference, look around for the next fight and go back to the brexit thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,289 Posted May 23, 2020 Harriet Harperson.....and PIE..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,515 Posted May 23, 2020 .....perspective tells me I've heard of all this kind of thing before (Cummings) and it will happen again. It's about idealism and realism and how much one gives up of the former. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,980 Posted May 23, 2020 This topic is showing the hot banner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted May 23, 2020 Blimey, the next Poet Laureate🙂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,515 Posted May 23, 2020 Lovely, lovely photo of Dom out in front of his London house today saying he cares nothing for what it looks like, the "optics". And there he is holding a child's football. You have to admire the sheer marketing masterclass of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted May 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: Don't forget we knew nothing about Boothby and Kray. We knew about Boothby and Supermac's wife but heterosexual was permitted. I remember George Brown asking Wilson what he wanted to do with the Homosexual Bill and Wilson said pay it.. Make a mistake, own up and resign and it is 'yesterdays chip paper; Try to deny it, attempt a cover up and the harm is multiplied....if only that you come under closer scrutiny, as with Profumo. That lesson is well-known. By Johnson having been sacked very quickly when caught out lying previously. If Johnson is not able to sack Cummings, then the question remains Who is really uin charfe at number 10 ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,385 Posted May 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: Don't forget we knew nothing about Boothby and Kray. We knew about Boothby and Supermac's wife but heterosexual was permitted. I remember George Brown asking Wilson what he wanted to do with the Homosexual Bill and Wilson said pay it. Yes, Boothby always seemed like a slimy toad but none of the bi sexual stuff was known at the time. Its usually **** with the tories eg Profumo, Parkinson etc and money with Labour, Robert Maxwell, John Stonehouse. Funny that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted May 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, Barbe bleu said: Brexit, PMQS,Tony Blair,John smith, cummings and goings and what his wife said ,John major, WMDS,The Russia report Hard right nationalists are better in germany. End on a Monty python reference, look around for the next fight and go back to the brexit thread Mengele, Crippen, Jack the Ripper, Ghengis Khan, Peter Sutcliffe................. err, that is the defence case for Dennis Neilson, m'lud Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted May 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, sonyc said: Lovely, lovely photo of Dom out in front of his London house today saying he cares nothing for what it looks like, the "optics". And there he is holding a child's football. You have to admire the sheer marketing masterclass of it. His bike looked at bit small. I imagine he is taking his youngster out. I will pish myself if a bobby fines him for being out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,515 Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: His bike looked at bit small. I imagine he is taking his youngster out. I will pish myself if a bobby fines him for being out. Think he was yes, it's a special bike. But it's the whole choreographed look isn't it. Reminds me of the Boris Johnson and Carrie Symmonds photo in a park staring at each other after that shouting match at his former house when neighbours reported him to the police. Such positioning! It's a skill. And as mentioned above, under Blair it all started (spin). Edited May 23, 2020 by sonyc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted May 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, sonyc said: Lovely, lovely photo of Dom out in front of his London house today saying he cares nothing for what it looks like, the "optics". And there he is holding a child's football. You have to admire the sheer marketing masterclass of it. it is a cycling helmet, and he puts the kids bike in the boot sadly some irreverent journalist does not follow Ricardo's cap doffing deference and asks "how far are you going today, mr cummings ? " 😄 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted May 23, 2020 Just now, sonyc said: Think he was yes, it's a special bike. But it's the whole choreographed look isn't it. Reminds me of the Boris Johnson and Carrie Symmonds photo in a park staring at each other after that shouting match at his former house when neighbours reported him to the police. It's a skill. And as mentioned above, under Blair it all started (spin). no, it;s been going on for yonks - only now it has to be done far more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,980 Posted May 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, ricardo said: Yes, Boothby always seemed like a slimy toad but none of the bi sexual stuff was known at the time. Its usually **** with the tories eg Profumo, Parkinson etc and money with Labour, Robert Maxwell, John Stonehouse. Funny that. Neil Hamilton and Keith Vaz should have switched parties then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,385 Posted May 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bill said: it is a cycling helmet, and he puts the kids bike in the boot sadly some irreverent journalist does not follow Ricardo's cap doffing deference and asks "how far are you going today, mr cummings ? " 😄 Defending him am I? When Ive already said I dont give **** and have had 2-1 him going. Looks like i am going to lose my money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,980 Posted May 23, 2020 Which betting company are offering 2/1 ? Can’t find odds anywhere on this market. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,385 Posted May 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: Neil Hamilton and Keith Vaz should have switched parties then. Thats why I qualified it with "usually" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,515 Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) Hancock and Raab now have come out in support of Dom. Ps. Wonder if people who got fines under lockdown for breaking the rules can now reclaim? Edited May 23, 2020 by sonyc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,738 Posted May 23, 2020 Anybody know if this essential trip Dom made included unblocking a sink ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted May 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, ricardo said: Defending him am I? When Ive already said I dont give **** and have had 2-1 him going. Looks like i am going to lose my money. mwrginks the laddie doth protest too loudly meanwhile some may recall the outrage sparked on here when I said that I had travelled to my brothers chief among the self righteous was our old friend, the neighbourhood plod, who wailed about him not being able to visit his grandchildren because of the lockdown perhaps he would like to express his outrage on this matter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,980 Posted May 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, ricardo said: Thats why I qualified it with "usually" And not forgetting Tom Driberg under the the glass coffee table. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,385 Posted May 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: Which betting company are offering 2/1 ? Can’t find odds anywhere on this market. Went to 2-1 with Starsports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,738 Posted May 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bill said: meanwhile some may recall the outrage sparked on here when I said that I had travelled to my brothers chief among the self righteous was our old friend, the neighbourhood plod, who wailed about him not being able to visit his grandchildren because of the lockdown That is a lie so stop making guff up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, FenwayFrank said: Don’t mind talking about government lying, when are we discussing Tony Blair? Please don’t go there, this thread is about CoronaVirus and this Cummings story is relevant to that - the lockdown, telling the truth and the scientific and political advise to the Government are all critical issues that will effect the outcome for the country, just as much as PPE, NHS capacity and new vaccines. Edited May 23, 2020 by Surfer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,385 Posted May 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bill said: mwrginks the laddie doth protest too loudly meanwhile some may recall the outrage sparked on here when I said that I had travelled to my brothers chief among the self righteous was our old friend, the neighbourhood plod, who wailed about him not being able to visit his grandchildren because of the lockdown perhaps he would like to express his outrage on this matter I think you've cornered the outrage market.😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,772 Posted May 23, 2020 It's really very simple. I suspect the final humiliation will be when all the members of Sage resign including thre CMO etc if Cummings is still in post by Monday. Some people have some morals and principals and will have to make a stand. The papers and interviews tomorrow will frankly crucify him and by extension Johnson. If there is a cover up too then Johnson himself is a target for resignation. By the way - did anybody else catch CV-19 in Durham due to the visit ? Prove they didtn't ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted May 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, ricardo said: Thats why I qualified it with "usually" At least the Liberals went both barrels and murder🧐 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,385 Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: At least the Liberals went both barrels and murder🧐 But they missed and upset the dog lovers brigade.😁 Reminds of that poster that said vote Liberal and someone had scrawled underneath "or we'll shoot your dog". Edited May 23, 2020 by ricardo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites