Aggy 755 Posted February 28, 2020 A lot of the pundits tonight saying it was definitely a handball “according to the new rule”. Have to say, having seen it a couple of times, I think it’s a stonewall handball. He seems to control it on his hand, pulls his hand down towards him. Even under the old rule, I’d have felt pretty aggrieved if that wasn’t given I think. Exactly what VAR should be for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,517 Posted February 28, 2020 Yep. Not even to be for dispute. Wonderful finish for a no goal though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chumino 57 Posted February 28, 2020 100% handball any rule! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted February 28, 2020 Clear handball, thanks var Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,432 Posted February 28, 2020 It’s handball took VAR long enough to sort it out. Convinced they are still trying to find a way to rule it out 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,661 Posted February 28, 2020 Still hate var 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Wundaboy 1,359 Posted February 28, 2020 What I don’t get, is the first replay we saw on Sky literally 5 seconds after it hit the net showed it was clearly handball. Then they showed 3 more angles, then zoomed away and showed it at a wide angle...WHY?! The first look was all you needed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,980 Posted February 28, 2020 Couldn’t give a **** if it was unlucky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,661 Posted February 28, 2020 Just now, Canary Wundaboy said: What I don’t get, is the first replay we saw on Sky literally 5 seconds after it hit the net showed it was clearly handball. Then they showed 3 more angles, then zoomed away and showed it at a wide angle...WHY?! The first look was all you needed! Because whilst they wanted to find any opportunity to rule out Pukkis goal vs Spurs, they were even more desperate to try and give the goal Leicesters way. If they're going to be consistent with it I'd much rather they always look to TRY and give the goal rather than the other way round. Problem is they'll never be consistent. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,332 Posted February 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Canary Wundaboy said: What I don’t get, is the first replay we saw on Sky literally 5 seconds after it hit the net showed it was clearly handball. Then they showed 3 more angles, then zoomed away and showed it at a wide angle...WHY?! The first look was all you needed! And the co-commentator here kept on for the whole VAR saga and the rest of the game that he'd "seen it a few times and still wasn't convinced". Madness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,920 Posted February 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Canary Wundaboy said: What I don’t get, is the first replay we saw on Sky literally 5 seconds after it hit the net showed it was clearly handball. Then they showed 3 more angles, then zoomed away and showed it at a wide angle...WHY?! The first look was all you needed! I was sitting 60 yards away and I knew it was handball. Quite agree with you, why on earth did it take so long? I'm even more baffled with VAR after the European games in the week. They get it right incredibly quickly with no fuss. If they can do it why can't we? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,657 Posted February 28, 2020 Handball is handball and that did look pretty clear from what they showed at the game. In any case, IMO the rule is actually now better and totally clear, taking any doubt out of the decision. If a handball leads to a goal that is too much of a ‘gain’, accidental or not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgncfc 1,227 Posted February 28, 2020 The ball hits Godfrey's arm first and drops onto the Leicester players hand. I wonder if he had shot and missed whether Leicester would have had a free kick? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daz Sparks 1,152 Posted February 28, 2020 I called it as handball from the Upper Barclay FFS, how did the on field officials miss it? It was clear to see that ball came under control from a body position that could have only been hand or arm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,231 Posted February 28, 2020 Godfrey handballed it first. A bit of VAR luck but who cares. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,502 Posted February 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said: Godfrey handballed it first. A bit of VAR luck but who cares. In that case it should have been a free kick to Leicester. If the ref plays advantage then their player handballed & thereby gained an illegal advantage. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggy 755 Posted February 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said: Godfrey handballed it first. A bit of VAR luck but who cares. I don’t think he did. Handball for a defender 40 yards out needs to be deliberate. Handball for a striker who scores with his next touch, the ball only has to touch his hand. Godfrey definitely doesn’t deliberately handball it. Regardless of whether or not the attacker deliberately handballs it, it hits his hand and he scores straight after. It looks fairly deliberate by the attack to me as well though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CANARYKING 637 Posted February 29, 2020 Looking forward to Gary Linneker tonight “ never a handball “ “Yet another VAR error “. etc etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,164 Posted February 29, 2020 9 hours ago, sgncfc said: The ball hits Godfrey's arm first and drops onto the Leicester players hand. I wonder if he had shot and missed whether Leicester would have had a free kick? I actually thought that it was more Godfrey's shoulder ...and have checked to try and confirm this .... it's not easy to determine admittedly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted February 29, 2020 Probably should have been allowed imo. Yes, it hits his hand as the ball came down, but doesn't look deliberate to me or change the course of the ball. Var is turning football into a joke game, devoid of any spirit and although I would have hated to go one down of course, a "hint" of handball with 50/50 as to whether it was deliberate or not, should not have meant disallowing a goal. We want goals and VAR is destroying too many. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted February 29, 2020 1 minute ago, lake district canary said: Probably should have been allowed imo. Yes, it hits his hand as the ball came down, but doesn't look deliberate to me or change the course of the ball. Var is turning football into a joke game, devoid of any spirit and although I would have hated to go one down of course, a "hint" of handball with 50/50 as to whether it was deliberate or not, should not have meant disallowing a goal. We want goals and VAR is destroying too many. Under the new rules is had to be disallowed. It’s nothing to do with var. var are just implementing the rules and deliberate or not doesn’t come into it. Clearly brought the ball down with his hand and benefited by scoring a goal. Brendan Rodgers is an absolute hypocrite as well, strangely supporting the rule earlier in the season when it benefited them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CDMullins 436 Posted February 29, 2020 9 hours ago, Aggy said: I don’t think he did. Handball for a defender 40 yards out needs to be deliberate. Handball for a striker who scores with his next touch, the ball only has to touch his hand. Godfrey definitely doesn’t deliberately handball it. Regardless of whether or not the attacker deliberately handballs it, it hits his hand and he scores straight after. It looks fairly deliberate by the attack to me as well though. Which is one of the fundamental issues with the rules/VAR in its current form. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted February 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, JF said: Under the new rules is had to be disallowed. It’s nothing to do with var. var are just implementing the rules and deliberate or not doesn’t come into it. Clearly brought the ball down with his hand and benefited by scoring a goal. Brendan Rodgers is an absolute hypocrite as well, strangely supporting the rule earlier in the season when it benefited them Yes, I know it is the rule, my issue is with VAR, the rules and the implementation. Too many goals are being lost due to VAR and it's forensic nonsense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivvo 257 Posted February 29, 2020 No, forensic nonsense is VAR being used for marginal offside decisions which the technology isn’t actually good enough to determine properly, in this case it obviously hits the attackers hand and he scores = no goal, under the rules that’s correct. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted February 29, 2020 So it touched his hand - did it really alter the course of the ball or was it deliberate? If not, then no offence has occured in the laws of the game, unless the laws have changed. Is it difficult to say whether it was deliberate or not? Then advantage should go to the attacker - we want to see goals - just like the nonsensical offside decisions - advantage should always be to the attacking player - unless he does something that is clearly wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted February 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, lake district canary said: So it touched his hand - did it really alter the course of the ball or was it deliberate? If not, then no offence has occured in the laws of the game, unless the laws have changed. Is it difficult to say whether it was deliberate or not? Then advantage should go to the attacker - we want to see goals - just like the nonsensical offside decisions - advantage should always be to the attacking player - unless he does something that is clearly wrong. The handball law has changed 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hillhead 114 Posted February 29, 2020 17 minutes ago, lake district canary said: So it touched his hand - did it really alter the course of the ball or was it deliberate? If not, then no offence has occured in the laws of the game, unless the laws have changed. Is it difficult to say whether it was deliberate or not? Then advantage should go to the attacker - we want to see goals - just like the nonsensical offside decisions - advantage should always be to the attacking player - unless he does something that is clearly wrong. While I disagree with the offside decisions -as stated the technology just isn't there. I am actually happy with the handball rule (not just for the way it went last night) For me, it absolutely does alter the course of the ball - it brings it back towards Inhenacho which then hits his body and wrong foots Godfrey. It's handball all day for me. I've no problem with that being given. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted February 29, 2020 Infantino has said VAR is here to stay but may require modifications to the laws, They are meeting this weekend. 12 months ago the only argument would have been should Godfey have dropped him. The goal would have stood and pundits could have argued all night. Neither player handled it deliberately and it was a cracking finish. But as much as we hate it, VAR went in our favour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk Dumpling 14 Posted February 29, 2020 It was handball and it slightly changed the direction and pace of the ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's Character Forming 1,160 Posted February 29, 2020 It’s doesn’t matter now, the ball hit his hand and then he scored = no goal. Doesn’t matter whether it diverted the ball or was deliberate or whatever. This is irrelevant when the attacker then scores, exactly as we saw last night. IMO this rule change is spot on, it stops a player gaining an advantage and scoring after handling which is exactly what happened last night. people need to get up to date!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites