CANARYKING 634 Posted February 15, 2020 Not convinced they are any better than what we’ve already got, agree ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
East Rider 538 Posted February 15, 2020 I am, but Duda tired towards the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,085 Posted February 15, 2020 They are two excellent pieces of business. They both strengthen the squad (Duda only for this season). I particularly like the look of Rupp. Good on the ball, lots of football intelligence and more physically dynamic than most of the midfielders we've got here already. Looks an absolute steal at just £500,000. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BaltimoreBird 127 Posted February 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Thirsty Lizard said: They are two excellent pieces of business. They both strengthen the squad (Duda only for this season). I particularly like the look of Rupp. Good on the ball, lots of football intelligence and more physically dynamic than most of the midfielders we've got here already. Looks an absolute steal at just £500,000. Duda we know we won't have get next year. Rupp, although I wasn't impressed early in his start at the club, looked to be very active today and stuck with his man very well. Not upset that he'll be here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,140 Posted February 15, 2020 Blimey is this a wind up ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nono 19 Posted February 15, 2020 31 minutes ago, CANARYKING said: Not convinced they are any better than what we’ve already got, agree ? No. They are obviously, visibly, a better standard. Which is why we narrowly lost rather than getting tonked, and why buendia looked rubbish when he came on. What game do you people watch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,503 Posted February 16, 2020 I've been pleasantly surprised with Rupp. Looks like a real good player who naturally fits with how we play Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 929 Posted February 16, 2020 So Buendia was rubbish for the whole 7 or 8 minutes he was on the pitch, according to some. However, we only made two defence splitting passes all game that resulted in goal scoring opportunities and he made one of them. Yes he comes with risks and he makes errors but he is always capable of pulling something out of the bag that creates a chance. Capable players they may be but I haven't yet seen that quality yet from either Duda or Rupp. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,456 Posted February 16, 2020 Rupp looks like the definition of 7 out of 10 type player. Neat and tidy but not actually excellent at anything. Will probably be useful next season. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny Foggo 1,105 Posted February 16, 2020 Rupp did ok. He will be ok in the championship 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,331 Posted February 16, 2020 Duda looks clearly the best option at #10 and Rupp has been solid enough. Surprised that we didn't see Emi earlier yesterday but assume Farke was happy to try and take a point and Rupp is better suited to that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,290 Posted February 16, 2020 I agree. Rupp will do a job this season but I don’t think they’ve really improved us at all and more than that I worry about the impact on the rest of the squad and particularly on Onel, Trybull, Vrancic and Stiepermann who are players we will need next season but can’t get on the pitch whilst these two stroll into the first team and get to start every week. I think it’s really dodgy man management. Starting either of these two ahead of Emi is very questionable in my book. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,290 Posted February 16, 2020 8 hours ago, Nono said: No. They are obviously, visibly, a better standard. Which is why we narrowly lost rather than getting tonked, and why buendia looked rubbish when he came on. What game do you people watch? They are obviously, visibly, not. ok maybe they are being asked to do a different job but they both created absolutely nothing and the link up with Pukki was non existent. im not unhappy we signed them both but I don’t understand why we are not playing our best side (at least for large chunks of games) when draws are largely meaningless for us and we need wins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,290 Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jim Smith said: I agree. Rupp will do a job this season but I don’t think they’ve really improved us at all and more than that I worry about the impact on the rest of the squad and particularly on Onel, Trybull, Vrancic and Stiepermann who are players we will need next season but can’t get on the pitch whilst these two stroll into the first team and get to start every week. I think it’s really dodgy man management. Starting either of these two ahead of Emi is very questionable in my book. Sorry should say next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glory.win or die. 270 Posted February 16, 2020 I thought Rupp was poor yesterday. Duda wasnt at his best but it's a hard game to judge any non defensive player because they are staying disciplined for the team and dont have the opportunities to play to their strengths. Duda is class and wont be here next season anyway. Rupp is a good reliable squad player, donecwell overall since he joined,an upgraded Simon Lappin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowhammer 84 Posted February 16, 2020 They will be ok in the championship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,331 Posted February 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, glory.win or die. said: Rupp is a good reliable squad player, donecwell overall since he joined,an upgraded Simon Lappin. King of Germany Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,655 Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) Can understand Rupp starting yesterday in the need to contain Liverpool....but absolutely has to be Buendia from here on in, we have to go out to try and win every game from here ...sh!t or bust...and our best attacking players must be on the pitch. The interesting thing there is whether Farke tries to find a place for Rupp elsewhere in the team ..and at the expense of who? ...as for Duda, clearly a decent player...but not convinced he's the answer to the chipping in with goals from the no.10 position problem ...I've said it before, I do find it strange that we'd never tried Cantwell Buendia Hernandez as the three behind Pukki at any stage this season? Edited February 16, 2020 by GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Il Pirata 249 Posted February 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said: Can understand Rupp starting yesterday in the need to contain Liverpool....but absolutely has to be Buendia from here on in, we have to go out to try and win every game from here ...sh!t or bust...and our best attacking players must be on the pitch. The interesting thing there is whether Farke tries to find a place for Rupp elsewhere in the team ..and at the expense of who? ...as for Duda, clearly a decent player...but not convinced he's the answer to the chipping in with goals from the no.10 position problem ...I've said it before, I do find it strange that we'd never tried Cantwell Buendia Hernandez as the three behind Pukki at any stage this season? Bunedia, Duda and Hernandez is the three I'd like to see behind Pukki. Then Vrancic behind with Trybull / Mclean / Rupp. I can't contemplate another season with Tettey as the preferred CDM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,290 Posted February 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Il Pirata said: Bunedia, Duda and Hernandez is the three I'd like to see behind Pukki. Then Vrancic behind with Trybull / Mclean / Rupp. I can't contemplate another season with Tettey as the preferred CDM. Even though he’s been out best midfielder this season (bar Cantwell) and far more consistent than any of the others you mention? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Il Pirata 249 Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Jim Smith said: Even though he’s been out best midfielder this season (bar Cantwell) and far more consistent than any of the others you mention? I think that depends on how you view it. For me, the fact Tettey can be considered one of our better midfielders points more to a failure in player recruitment and squad usage. This club should be miles past Tettey now. In Tettey, I see a player who works hard and holds his position well, but ultimately isn't physically able to dominate a midfield against other Premier League teams. I suppose if he is one of our better midfielders, the fact we are comfortably bottom of the league says it all and shouldn't come as a surprise. Edited February 16, 2020 by Il Pirata 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rolf Harris 30 Posted February 16, 2020 Rupp is clearly there to protect. We're too open with Buendia and Cantwell. If both are to play aganist the big sides we need two strong DMs protecting. Which we currently do not have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,456 Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Il Pirata said: I think that depends on how you view it. For me, the fact Tettey can be considered one of our better midfielders points more to a failure in player recruitment and squad usage. This club should be miles past Tettey now. In Tettey, I see a player who works hard and holds his position well, but ultimately isn't physically able to dominate a midfield against other Premier League teams. Yep. It sounds harsh but I'm not sure Tettey is in the 18 of any other team in this league, let alone a starting xi regular. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Bristol Nest 512 Posted February 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Il Pirata said: I think that depends on how you view it. For me, the fact Tettey can be considered one of our better midfielders points more to a failure in player recruitment and squad usage. This club should be miles past Tettey now. In Tettey, I see a player who works hard and holds his position well, but ultimately isn't physically able to dominate a midfield against other Premier League teams. This sums up how people see the game differently. I just don't understand how you reach that view of Tetty. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted February 16, 2020 9 hours ago, Nono said: No. They are obviously, visibly, a better standard. Which is why we narrowly lost rather than getting tonked, and why buendia looked rubbish when he came on. What game do you people watch? Buendea looked rubbish?? What game do you people watch.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Il Pirata 249 Posted February 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Bristol Nest said: This sums up how people see the game differently. I just don't understand how you reach that view of Tetty. Well, we don't win enough games and we're bottom of the league. Tettey holds one of the most important positions in the team. That's not to blame our predicament on him, far from it, but Tettey is a fire fighter not a EPL matchwinner. There's a huge amount of sentiment included in peoples judgement of Tettey. We should have replaced him three years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 929 Posted February 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Kenny Foggo said: Rupp did ok. He will be ok in the championship I might be wrong but I doubt that anybody over the last couple of seasons has ever classed Buendia as just being "ok" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,290 Posted February 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Il Pirata said: Well, we don't win enough games and we're bottom of the league. Tettey holds one of the most important positions in the team. That's not to blame our predicament on him, far from it, but Tettey is a fire fighter not a EPL matchwinner. There's a huge amount of sentiment included in peoples judgement of Tettey. We should have replaced him three years ago. I completely disagree. It’s having Tettey there that enables us to play more attacking players ahead of him. He does his job well. It’s the other midfield positions where we have struggled although I think both Vrancic and Trybull have been harshly treated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,070 Posted February 16, 2020 35 minutes ago, Il Pirata said: I think that depends on how you view it. For me, the fact Tettey can be considered one of our better midfielders points more to a failure in player recruitment and squad usage. This club should be miles past Tettey now. In Tettey, I see a player who works hard and holds his position well, but ultimately isn't physically able to dominate a midfield against other Premier League teams. I suppose if he is one of our better midfielders, the fact we are comfortably bottom of the league says it all and shouldn't come as a surprise. I agree but for different reasons! I woudn't play Tettey either but I think he is physically but not technically able. He can run around, shield the defence, tackle etc but if the other team lets him have the ball, he won't do anything with it. Our system relies on all players being technically very good with the ball and able to make progressive passes; Tettey may %wise be OK at passing but they are always nothing passes that I could make. I want to see a central midfield comprised of Rupp or Trybull alongside Vrancic or McClean (or dare I say Leitner!). The three behind Pukki should be Cantwell, Duda and Buendia but Hernandez given >15 minutes at the end, against tiring legs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Il Pirata 249 Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Jim Smith said: I completely disagree. It’s having Tettey there that enables us to play more attacking players ahead of him. He does his job well. It’s the other midfield positions where we have struggled although I think both Vrancic and Trybull have been harshly treated. Yep, that's the narrative Jim. But in reality it isn't working, because we're bottom of the league. There are better players than Tettey for this role. Players in the championship too. What Tettey does give is experience and leadership qualities. In and around the squad I see an argument for his inclusion. But to command such a pivotal role as often as he does, nah, it's not good enough for where Norwich City are right now, or at least it shouldn't be. Edited February 16, 2020 by Il Pirata Share this post Link to post Share on other sites