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So it's just us "Island monkeys" is it?

 

"PARIS (AP) — Young German adults hold “corona parties” and cough toward older people. A Spanish man leashes a goat to go for a walk to skirt confinement orders. From France to Florida to Australia, kitesurfers, college students and others crowd the beaches.

Their defiance of lockdown mandates and scientific advice to fight the coronavirus pandemic has prompted crackdowns by authorities on people trying to escape cabin fever brought on by virus restrictions. In some cases, the virus rebels resist — threatening police as officials express outrage over public gatherings that could spread the virus.

“Some consider they’re little heroes when they break the rules,” French Interior Minister Christophe Castaner said. “Well, no. You’re an imbecile, and especially a threat to yourself.”

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I see Rail is now temporarily nationalized.

John McDonnell and his little red book must sadly think Christmas has has come early  for all the wrong reasons!

There won't be many 'socialist' ideas left for the Johnson to enact soon!

 

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Went out this morning to my local freezer store to get some essentials, first trip out for a few days. Wearing gloves and wrapping my facial extremities up as best i could i entered the store between 9-10am as it was the pensioners hour and ive just recently hit pension age. At a rough guess i would calculate their produce was at no more than 25% of normal stock, many many freezers were simply empty. I was doing my utmost to try social distancing yet most others just did not seem to bother. On to the local fruit and veg store where i asked the owner how things were...he said fruit and veg was suffering badly from supplier to store...he did not elaborate further but said he would be closing in the next few days simply because so little produce was becoming available from the supply chain.

It was also very noticeable to me since i last ventured out how many varying shops are already closed..a good percentage are not waiting on Boris to announce a full lockdown, its a gradual closing down anyway.

I recall my dear old mum, bless her, talking abot the war years when she was a young  kid and saying what a luxury it was to get a thing like an orange to eat. We may not not be quite at that stage right now, also the food retailers try to assure us the food chain can run pretty well, but thanks to so many foolish panic buyers who have bought 2 or 3 times the normal amount they actually need the stores are now looking very sorry for themselves. Home again, hoping ive not caught it and not going out again for the next days ahead.

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967 new cases, 54 new deaths today for UK.

Locally...Norfolk 1 new case, total 35 confirmed. Suffolk 4 new cases, total 22.

83,940 Testings in the UK.

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Well probably a couple of weeks ahead of the UK the shops are indeed empty. Not of food though but people. Why because  there is no need. No doubt the UK will soon sheepishly realise how silly they have been to panic. 

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Good to see that the naturally delayed impact of social distancing measures in Italy and Germany. appear to be having an effect

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Widespread panic buying and lack of social distancing in the UK versus isolated instances in other continental Europe. Even greater individualism in the US and even greater problems. UK selfish invidualism has its merits but not when dealing with Covid 19. Selfish individuals kills and is certainly not something people in the UK should still be advocating.now. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

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I guess now that many of us can get those around the home jobs done that  we never  before had time for. Extraordinary moment for this nation and this generation, one that will be repeated around the globe in the coming weeks and months for sure. Que sera sera.

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9 minutes ago, Essjayess said:

I guess now that many of us can get those around the home jobs done that  we never  before had time for. Extraordinary moment for this nation and this generation, one that will be repeated around the globe in the coming weeks and months for sure. Que sera sera.

I've got my wheelbarrow out, a couple of bags of blue circle cement plus 250 bricks.....Then I'm gonna wander down to Carra and make a start on building a new City stand......

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1 hour ago, Rock The Boat said:

Did a shop Monday lunchtime. No queues, no crowds, no panic and full shelves. Just like normal times. 

It seems very patchy in nature what food stores are well stocked and which are not. Certainly the  freezer store i went to was devoid of nearly all items and looked very sorry for itself. I guess it depends on what times truck deliveries arrive, when produce is filled on the shelves etc etc.

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16 hours ago, Essjayess said:

967 new cases, 54 new deaths today for UK.

Locally...Norfolk 1 new case, total 35 confirmed. Suffolk 4 new cases, total 22.

83,940 Testings in the UK.

could you link the sources of figures please, it helps if they are scientific sources, not from politicians and or the wretched MSM. Thanks in advance

 

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12 hours ago, Mello Yello said:

I've got my wheelbarrow out, a couple of bags of blue circle cement plus 250 bricks.....Then I'm gonna wander down to Carra and make a start on building a new City stand......

very good point, low traffic rates and weeks of it to come would make this a perfect time to put up the steel frames to bridge the road without much interruption and cut off's.

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1 hour ago, nevermind, neoliberalism has had it said:

very good point, low traffic rates and weeks of it to come would make this a perfect time to put up the steel frames to bridge the road without much interruption and cut off's.

Never a true word spoken in joist......

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2 hours ago, nevermind, neoliberalism has had it said:

could you link the sources of figures please, it helps if they are scientific sources, not from politicians and or the wretched MSM. Thanks in advance

 

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

This has been linked quite a few times in this topic. Its the official Public Health England  stats and updated once daily.

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Sizeable jumps today as expected in UK..87 new deaths to 422 overall and nearly 1500 new cases. But not alone...Netherlands has had 63 deaths  today with a much smaller national population.

And for the guy that splattered that headline about the UK death rate rising faster than Italy at the same stage..on the day that both  nations had 233 deaths, the following 3 days Italy's death total went to 366 then 463 then 631.

UK has just had those 3 days at 271 then 335 then 422. These are statistics, but human beings dying yes, but someone posting  such inaccurate headlines  really need to check the figures 1st.

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There seems to be a bit of a twatoff between two of Britain's richest men today. Mike Ashley was well in the lead this morning then Tim Wetherspoon decided to take over.

Whereas Brexitty Sir Jim Ratcliffe has fallen completely off the tw@ chart by doing something with his wealth that will benefit the whole country. Well done Ineos.👍

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This is New York this week - a preview of London in two weeks time? 

Hopefully you will not have a completely dysfunctional national government like ours that seems to be actively sabotaging the actions of the State Governments. Boris has the same tendencies as this bloviating "it's about me" idiot, but he, for now, is not behaving like this.

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With 6 new deaths in Scotland and 5 in Wales UK is really now starting to raise the ride to the top of the peak much more fast. Certain today the deaths will be well over 100 and new cases above 2000. Again no surprise when seeing the number of deaths  from Belgium and Netherlands, who have much smaller populations.

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That is encouraging Ricardo, and I hope that the theory is backed up by the evidence.

 

Also there was a comment made in the same meeting about an antibody finger **** test (I.e you caught it, and have recovered as we can see the antibodies to the virus in your blood) beginning to become available as early as this weekend. 

That is critically important as it can back up the theory that half the population is already infected, and be used to clear critical workers to return to the economy with some degree of certainly that they can’t catch it again or pass it on to others. 

The test, which looks like a pregnancy test and involves pricking the finger to produce a drop of blood, which is then analysed by the device, will first be validated in Oxford to ensure it works as well as scientists hope. That will happen this week, Peacock said, and it will then be available to test healthcare workers and also the general public.

“Several million tests have been purchased for use. These are brand new products. We have to be clear they work as they are claimed to do,” she said. “Once they have been tested this week and the bulk of tests arrive, they will be distributed into the community.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-mass-home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days

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The finger***** I assume you mean fingers crossed!😉

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33 minutes ago, sonyc said:

The finger***** I assume you mean fingers crossed!😉

Ah bless the internet police. F_I_N_G_E_R  P_R_I_C_K test. There I said it finger ****, fingerprick. 

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2 hours ago, ricardo said:

On the major news outlets  Was at the commons select committee reported live today. He would say that as the measures based on  his model are predicated on keeping within capacity. Reality as reported by RKI in Germany is that no ones knows how will develop given limited data. The 50pc already have had it is a theoretical model which is not supported by evidence from Italy and will need further widespread testing to establish the reality. 

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18 minutes ago, T said:

On the major news outlets  Was at the commons select committee reported live today. He would say that as the measures based on  his model are predicated on keeping within capacity. Reality as reported by RKI in Germany is that no ones knows how will develop given limited data. The 50pc already have had it is a theoretical model which is not supported by evidence from Italy and will need further widespread testing to establish the reality. 

That Oxford University projection is clearly plain incorrect and stupid. If half the population had it already thats over 33 million..the NHS would have been swamped with tens upon tens of thousands of infected  by now  already, even allowing for the vast majority to either be not aware at all that they have it / had it or ones that have a mild dose , like Bonnie Prince Charlie. If we go back to the models that the CMO  and CSO put out and go with their worst estimates of x20 the number of  postive cases...add 2000 to the 8k already  tested poaitive...thats 10,000 x20...200,000..nowhere near 33 million.

Been checking the Italy new deaths / new cases...highest  daily deaths was March 21st with 793 deaths..the last 5 days has waved between 625 and that 793...new cases seem to be steady at 5 or at worse 6k a day for last 5 days...for sure no decrease in numbers but perhaps just a first small sign of at least stabilisation..but really need a few more days even to say that with any measure of certainty.

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6 minutes ago, Essjayess said:

That Oxford University projection is clearly plain incorrect and stupid. 

Wrong?  Possibly, perhaps likely.

Stupid?  That's quite the claim for someone on a football forum to make of one of the worlds foremost universities!

I'm not at all optimistic it will be right but I am glad someone is thinking along different lines and robustly testing the theory. 

 

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