Wuhan coronavirus

[Mr Apples 1,320]

7 minutes ago, Van wink said:

Good opinion👍 How do you self monitor if you are symptomless?

"According to recent reports, it may be possible that people infected with 2019-nCoV may be infectious before showing significant symptoms.  However, based on currently available data, the people who have symptoms are causing the majority of virus spread."

Apples

[paul moy 235]

1 hour ago, Mr Apples said:

"According to recent reports, it may be possible that people infected with 2019-nCoV may be infectious before showing significant symptoms.  However, based on currently available data, the people who have symptoms are causing the majority of virus spread."

Apples

That's not a recent report as they've known that for at least two weeks.

In fact, I just checked my postings on another BB and I made that statement on 23rd January. 

Edited February 11, 2020 by paul moy

[Van wink 2,994]

1 hour ago, Mr Apples said:

"According to recent reports, it may be possible that people infected with 2019-nCoV may be infectious before showing significant symptoms.  However, based on currently available data, the people who have symptoms are causing the majority of virus spread."

Apples

Now I know why you keep your own counsel, but it’s good to try😀

Edited February 11, 2020 by Van wink

[paul moy 235]

... and now potentially prisoners near Oxford infected :

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1240816/Coronavirus-UK-latest-outbreak-male-prisoners-Oxfordshire-symptoms-bullingdon

 

[Mr Apples 1,320]

15 hours ago, Van wink said:

Now I know why you keep your own counsel, but it’s good to try

Van Wink, you really are an obliging old sweetheart. 🤣🤣🤣

Apples

[ricardo 7,385]

2 hours ago, Mr Apples said:

Van Wink, you really are an obliging old sweetheart. 🤣🤣🤣

Apples

My Granny Smith told me when you remove the peel you get to the core of the problem.

[Van wink 2,994]

2 hours ago, Mr Apples said:

Van Wink, you really are an obliging old sweetheart. 🤣🤣🤣

Apples

You silly old sausage. 
While you are here, any further thoughts on the significance of a long infectious incubation period😉

[Herman 9,758]

I think the Wuhan Woops would have been a better name. 

[ricardo 7,385]

18 hours ago, Herman said:

I think the Wuhan Woops would have been a better name. 

Whoops indeed.

A massive increase in confirmed cases today, now over 60k with 1369 fatalities.

[Van wink 2,994]

Looks like they have changed the definition of the disease to include those with a clinical diagnosis, which is what they should have been doing all the while, they are still defining fatalities in the same way though😉

242 deaths in one province yesterday, poor people, must be horrendous in those provinces with a high incidence.

Edited February 13, 2020 by Van wink

[ricardo 7,385]

1 hour ago, Van wink said:

Looks like they have changed the definition of the disease to include those with a clinical diagnosis, which is what they should have been doing all the while, they are still defining fatalities in the same way though😉

242 deaths in one province yesterday, poor people, must be horrendous in those provinces with a high incidence.

Medical services overwhelmed in that province. Hopefully the rest of the world is better prepared.

Saw a report on YouTube saying other Chinese provinces are quickly building isolation centres. Let's hope they can contain it. 

Why the WHO haven't declared a pandemic, I can't quite fathom.

 

[Van wink 2,994]

4 hours ago, ricardo said:

Medical services overwhelmed in that province. Hopefully the rest of the world is better prepared.

Saw a report on YouTube saying other Chinese provinces are quickly building isolation centres. Let's hope they can contain it. 

Why the WHO haven't declared a pandemic, I can't quite fathom.

 

There was a suggestion early on of undue pressure from the Chinese on the WHO, I would be hugely disappointed if that were the case, and suspect it’s not true.

[Herman 9,758]

I know I haven't been worrying overtly about this but when you hear about people flying in back from the East, where everyone is wearing facemasks, and then casually walk through airports, take tubes and buses etc. I do have a bit of a second thought.

Think about what you are doing for goodness sakes. 

[ricardo 7,385]

24 minutes ago, Herman said:

I know I haven't been worrying overtly about this but when you hear about people flying in back from the East, where everyone is wearing facemasks, and then casually walk through airports, take tubes and buses etc. I do have a bit of a second thought.

Think about what you are doing for goodness sakes. 

There is no sign of it peaking so take sensible precautions now.

 

[Van wink 2,994]

2 hours ago, ricardo said:

There is no sign of it peaking so take sensible precautions now.

 

A useful article 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/public-transport-protect-coronavirus-london-tube-bus-plane-taxi/

[Van wink 2,994]

On 13/02/2020 at 14:27, Van wink said:

There was a suggestion early on of undue pressure from the Chinese on the WHO, I would be hugely disappointed if that were the case, and suspect it’s not true.

Oh Dear!

 

WHO denies China made it play down coronavirus crisis

First death in Europe as British cases sent home from hospital

 

new

Andrew Gregory

Saturday February 15 2020, 6.00pm GMT, The Sunday Times

The World Health Organization denies being influenced by China in its decision not to immediately declare a global health emergency

JOHN MOORE/GETTY IMAGES

The World Health Organisation faces criticism over its “delayed” response to the new coronavirus, amid questions over its relationship with China.

The UN agency declared a global health emergency only on January 30, by which time the virus had spread well beyond China. The declaration reversed the WHO’s decision seven days earlier when it stopped short of such an announcement.

Public health experts suspect that before the meeting on January 23 China tried to play down the crisis and urged the agency not to designate it a “public health emergency of international concern”. The WHO denies being influenced by China.

The delay had ramifications, experts said, because some countries, especially in poorer parts of the world, will prepare for outbreaks only once the WHO advises them to do so.

Dr John Ashton, one of the UK’s leading public health specialists, said the WHO “failed to declare a global public health emergency in a timely way”. The number infected has since jumped to more than 66,000, while deaths have climbed above 1,500. The virus has spread to five continents.

 

The agency says it did not initially declare a global emergency largely because there was no evidence of human-to-human transmission outside China. But Ashton, the former director of public health for northwest England, said the WHO’s “vacillation” and “delay” was partly to blame for the fact that the world faces “potentially a pandemic that could reach into all corners of the globe, threatening the lives of millions”.

China has become a key strategic partner of the WHO and its financial backing could be key to the agency’s future sustainability. America, the WHO’s top donor, said last week it wants to cut its contribution to the agency by 53%.

[ricardo 7,385]

Oh dear indeed.

They seemed more concerned with not calling it a name that might offend anybody.

[Van wink 2,994]

Evidence emerging that the incubation period may be more than 14 days and also questions over the accuracy of some of the test results. Doesn’t get any easier does it, a very serious risk!

Edited February 20, 2020 by Van wink

[Van wink 2,994]

On 17/02/2020 at 14:43, Van wink said:

Evidence emerging that the incubation period may be more than 14 days and also questions over the accuracy of some of the test results. Doesn’t get any easier does it, a very serious risk!

 

 

 

Fecal oral transmission may be happening, clever little begger this virus, could explain the  large outbreaks on cruisers, also why all the throat swab test haven’t apparently been accurate

[Mello Yello 2,291]

On 15/02/2020 at 22:08, ricardo said:

Oh dear indeed.

They seemed more concerned with not calling it a name that might offend anybody.

I'll make the Stand.....Let's call it 'Captain Trips'......

....Oh and in conjunction with the coronavirus,  Stealer's Wheel have apparently re-released their 70's hit..... 'Stuck in the Wirral with you'...... 😉 

[Van wink 2,994]

Interesting article here, not relevant to corona as it’s a virus but an interesting development nonetheless 

https://news.sky.com/story/artificial-intelligence-used-to-discover-powerful-new-antibiotic-11939198

[Van wink 2,994]

A useful update on the situation in China

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/21/coronavirus-kills-wuhan-doctor-hundreds-infected-china-prisons

The risk when the virus gets into a more closed environment such as a prison, cruise ship, care facility seem very high. Particularly worrying if those settings accommodate vulnerable people. 
Could swiftly give respite to the long term care crisis or overcrowded prisons!!

Edited February 21, 2020 by Van wink

[ricardo 7,385]

South Korea getting very worried. Cities on lockdown.

China extends factory closures to March 11th.

[ricardo 7,385]

The explosion has begun.

[Herman 9,758]

3 minutes ago, ricardo said:

The explosion has begun.

Was it the Kingfishers or the lamb jalfrezi?

[ricardo 7,385]

47 minutes ago, Herman said:

Was it the Kingfishers or the lamb jalfrezi?

I am quite partial to a Jalfrezi but I doubt it will be available in a new unglobalised world after the pandemic.

I will be stripping the shelves in M&S again today.

Watch out for when the toilet roll shelf in Sainsburys is empty. Worth their weight in gold soon😉

[Van wink 2,994]

13 hours ago, ricardo said:

The explosion has begun.

It’s all unfolding pretty much as predicted

[Rock The Boat 1,330]

17 hours ago, ricardo said:

I am quite partial to a Jalfrezi but I doubt it will be available in a new unglobalised world after the pandemic.

I will be stripping the shelves in M&S again today.

Watch out for when the toilet roll shelf in Sainsburys is empty. Worth their weight in gold soon😉

I've been quietly stashing away the odd can or two.

[ricardo 7,385]

Football matches postponed in Italy as Cities come under lockdown.

Within two weeks we will know if the same happens here.

 

[Yellow Fever 3,781]

4 hours ago, ricardo said:

Football matches postponed in Italy as Cities come under lockdown.

Within two weeks we will know if the same happens here.

 

Yes - I can see this EFL and EPL seasons getting 'canned'!  That might save Ipswich!